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First Developer Intel Macs (Photos)

rxse7en said:
Makes one wonder how much money MS lost in this deal. They just bought VPC and now it's EOL--at least for until the new X86 Macs are out.
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MS bought VPC for Windows developers who needed to run more than one version of Windows, so they could test compatibility on the software they develop. The fact that it makes it so Windows can run on Mac is just an added bonus.

And for the record, VPC has been an utter waste of my time - **NOTHING** I need to be able to run under Windows will run under VPC. I finally broke down and ordered a Winbox for my workgroup. So *if* Intel Macs can be dual-boot Win/OS X, it will be a truly marvelous thing for me.
 
Tealeaf said:
As for viruses, I've been using PCs since 1999 or so and I've had a grand total of no viruses. It is not difficult to avoid them. Use Opera or Firefox. Run anti-virus and firewall software. Use Ad-aware to scan for spyware. The end.
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We buy Macs because we don't want to have to do these things.

My Winbox at home runs great until I install all the things on it that are needed to keep it from being eaten alive by viruses and spyware.
 
Virtual Server is the important piece

XForge said:
MS bought VPC for Windows developers who needed to run more than one version of Windows, so they could test compatibility on the software they develop. The fact that it makes it so Windows can run on Mac is just an added bonus.
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Most of the analysts wrote that MS bought Connectix for "Virtual Server", and VPC/x86 and VPC/Mac were just added bonuses.

http://www.crn.com/sections/breakin...CJUMEKJVN?articleId=18838878&_requestid=69419
CRN said:
Microsoft To Buy Connectix To Enter Server Consolidation Market

Microsoft plans to take a giant leap into the server consolidation space this week by announcing the acquisition of virtual server software company Connectix.

The software giant, which is expected to formally unveil the deal Thursday, will use the technology to allow customers to carve out multiple partitions on a single Intel-based server, allowing them to run multiple instances of a single operating system and multiple workloads.

"They see a market in server consolidation and they want a piece of it," said one source familiar with the deal.

Connectix, which is privately held and was founded in 1988, provides virtualization software for Windows-based computing. Last fall, it launched a product called Virtual Server that offers an enterprise-class virtualization solution for Windows-based servers. The technology has been in beta testing, and Microsoft is expected to productize it and ship it later this year after rigorous testing.

Virtual Server is a native Windows-based server application that enables customers to run a wide range of server operating systems including Windows, Linux, Unix, OS/2 and DOS, concurrently on a single physical server, within isolated virtual machines...
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These "real" pix look very familiar...

sunilraman said:
remember the hoax where some guy allegedly took a perfectly good powermac g5, ripped out all the innards and put an Intel PC running windows in it?

how the Mac community was *up in arms* and throwing up in their mouths? :eek: .... circa 2003.

well my friends. the day has come. this time:

1. it's not a hoax
2. it wasn't a rich kid with too much time
3. it wasn't a 7337 haxxor or whatever
4. it was apple.
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Precisely! Thanks for a wonderful post. The Mac community (of which I'm part of - to the tune of many $$$) was visibly upset with the so-called "jokester" photos of a G5 case with the Intel hardware inside.

Now that what once was a grotesque prank has now become a horrid reality, few of us really know what to think anymore.

What really did it for me was an article referencing Jobs' decision to go with Intel at the very last minute - 3:00pm to be exact - on that fatefull Friday; could we all have been had again by one of Steve's ego-storms?

I still can't believe this is happening!

Again - very interesting-looking pix here; thanks for letting me rant, people...
 
MegaSignal said:
What really did it for me was an article referencing Jobs' decision to go with Intel at the very last minute - 3:00pm to be exact - on that fatefull Friday; could we all have been had again by one of Steve's ego-storms?
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I don't think Apple's decision to switch to Intel was a last-minute thing. Max OS X has been leading a "secret double life" and running on Intels for years now. I believe you misinterpreted the story that said Steve did wait until the "last minute" to inform IBM of the switch:

Behind the Apple-Intel Deal, IBM Surprised
 
MegaSignal said:
Precisely! Thanks for a wonderful post. The Mac community (of which I'm part of - to the tune of many $$$) was visibly upset with the so-called "jokester" photos of a G5 case with the Intel hardware inside.

Now that what once was a grotesque prank has now become a horrid reality, few of us really know what to think anymore.
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That was one of the most things to have ever happened to a G5.
 
sorry, don't know if anyone already mentioned it...or maybe I just missed it. Are the new intel powermacs going to be using dual CPUs just like the current line-up? Or are they going with single processors?
 
nichos said:
The question is, will microsoft make it somehow inpossible to install windows on these machines in the future?
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Naw,

Microsoft doesnt care about that, they just want to sell their OS, and being able to install it will sell alot of Windows Longhorn CD's.

I would love it for the sheer fact I could use Windows for playing games and OS X for everything else.
 
GyroFX said:
sorry, don't know if anyone already mentioned it...or maybe I just missed it. Are the new intel powermacs going to be using dual CPUs just like the current line-up? Or are they going with single processors?
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Seeing as the new powermacs are probably at least a year off if not more (laptops and consumer models will probably switch first) it's a bit early to say, and certainly nothing's been announced. If you look at the Intel Roadmap you can get some idea of what processor specs will be. As for dual CPU, i guess it depends on how fast they get the dual core cpus running. For sure Apple will want the first Intel based Powermac to be a real killer machine.
 
XForge said:
We buy Macs because we don't want to have to do these things.

My Winbox at home runs great until I install all the things on it that are needed to keep it from being eaten alive by viruses and spyware.
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Yep. I don't want to spend money on anti-virus software or worry about spyware.
 
Ok, for one any such virus would have to be written to target a very specific machine, a dual booted mac with windows on it. I for one am not going to be using the windows side of my mac for anything but games or those weird apps that need it.

Secondly, has windows gone so far that you simply connect your computer to the internet and you get killed by viruses and spamware? I don't think so, basically the same rules apply. Don't download any weird email attachments, don't download things you don't know what you're downloading, and if it turnes out that it doesn't look like what you want (you download an mp3 and it has a .exe extension) don't run it. Isn't it that simple? Now yes I've connected to some "dirty" networks with filesharing turned on and gotten hundreds of "freep0rn.exe, officexp.exe blah blah" put in all my shared folders, but unless you you run them you're safe to just delete them. Windows isn't stupid enough to allow anyone to actually do something unless you do it yourself, ESPECIALLY with SP2 and its overbearing motherness.

So what I mean is.... we are not going to be affected by all those stupid windows viruses if all we ever do with our windows side is run games and download game patches. And I'm only going to do that if nobody can figure out how to make VPC or some other environment for running windows games (WINE anyone?) inside native OSX. Because I don't want to reboot my comp every 30 min.
 
Tealeaf said:
As for viruses, I've been using PCs since 1999 or so and I've had a grand total of no viruses. It is not difficult to avoid them. Use Opera or Firefox. Run anti-virus and firewall software. Use Ad-aware to scan for spyware. The end.
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This is bad. I know we all hate car analogies, but that's like saying:
Before I go to bed every night, I put a boot on all tires of the car, spray the car down with that super-inpenetrable stuff that K.I.T.T. used in Knight Rider, and have a guard who alerts me about every passerby of my driveway, keeps all intruders away, including those trying to put ads under my windshield wipers.

With the Mac car, I just lock the doors (and maybe set a car alarm).

With the Mac computer, I simply don't need Anti-Virus or Anti-Spyware/adware programs.
 
deputy_doofy said:
This is bad. I know we all hate car analogies, but that's like saying:
Before I go to bed every night, I put a boot on all tires of the car, spray the car down with that super-inpenetrable stuff that K.I.T.T. used in Knight Rider, and have a guard who alerts me about every passerby of my driveway, keeps all intruders away, including those trying to put ads under my windshield wipers.

With the Mac car, I just lock the doors (and maybe set a car alarm).

With the Mac computer, I simply don't need Anti-Virus or Anti-Spyware/adware programs.
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Yes, car analogies get a bit tiresome (pardon the pun) but in this case, it's somewhat applicable, as that's my outlook on things as well. Plus, I always thought KITT was cool... ;) :cool:
 
I think it's great! You know how much cooler these things are gonna run?


iGary said:
YUCK!

Looks like the inside of a HP.

I'm buying the bigest baddest G5 PM in the fall or early next year.

Yuck, yuck, yuck.

*throws up in mouth*
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No one is going to dual boot into Windows except maybe IT people. Microsoft will just write a new version of Virtual PC, and then we'll finally be able to run Windows fast enough.

jared_kipe said:
Ok, for one any such virus would have to be written to target a very specific machine, a dual booted mac with windows on it.
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bdkennedy1 said:
I think it's great! You know how much cooler these things are gonna run?
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Hmm. I suppose that Intel wouldn't be too happy if Apple kept doing the overclocking thing with the pumps and all...
 
sunilraman said:
remember the hoax where some guy allegedly took a perfectly good powermac g5, ripped out all the innards and put an Intel PC running windows in it?

how the Mac community was *up in arms* and throwing up in their mouths? :eek: .... circa 2003.

well my friends. the day has come. this time:

1. it's not a hoax
2. it wasn't a rich kid with too much time
3. it wasn't a 7337 haxxor or whatever
4. it was apple.
5. f**k me i swear i've done too much drugs or listened to too much trance music or something coz i'm now in some weird parallel universe. what's next? israel and palestine living alongside each other in peace? ;) :confused: :confused:
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No big deal. I'll really start to worry when wdlove tells someone in here to "go f yourself".
 
jared_kipe said:
has windows gone so far that you simply connect your computer to the internet and you get killed by viruses and spamware?
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Yes, in fact it has.
Install any version of windows prior to XP-SP2 on a computer with an open (non-firewalled) internet connection and your machine will be infected prior to even completing the installation process....
 
Who cares honestly?

This x86 base will only bring better and faster hardware acceleration to the Mac platform. PCI-e.....Finally.

Plus this will also mean that the Mactel will be CHEAPER come next year with more software and 3rd party hardware/add-ons.

This is a good thing....however I have my suspicions as to why Steve Jobs decide to call this "Mactel" instead of just leaving it as "Macintosh." Seems as if Apple is ashamed for some reason, and it has little to nothing to do with marketing. You can clearly state on the box "Macintosh" with either the present PPC/G5 logo on the box or in the future with an x86/Intel logo on the side.

Somethings just do not add up correctly.
 
maya said:
Who cares honestly?

Somethings just do not add up correctly.
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It might be just a big PR stunt by the Prime Ego that's engineered to pressure IBM into speeding up the schedule for delivering POWER5-based PPC 9xx chips.

Can't you see it? WWDC 2006, when you expect the Lord God Jobs to announce the Intel-based PowerMacs - you hear:

"Just kidding, here are the wonderful PowerMac G6 systems on the new PPC980 IBM chip"

Apple's roadmap is so up-in-the air at this point that it could happen....
 
maya said:
however I have my suspicions as to why Steve Jobs decide to call this "Mactel" instead of just leaving it as "Macintosh." Seems as if Apple is ashamed for some reason, and it has little to nothing to do with marketing. You can clearly state on the box "Macintosh" with either the present PPC/G5 logo on the box or in the future with an x86/Intel logo on the side.

Somethings just do not add up correctly.
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I think Steve just Trade Marked it so if it goes in print Apple will actually get money from it or they can use it themselves (which I doubt). Pretty smart if you ask me, he probably doesn't want to hear the word Mactel so he trademarked it so the press couldn't run with as crazy as they would like. I'm willing to bet the name "Macintosh" is hear to stay.
 
Tvar' said:
Linux already has flash player and nVidia drivers... What planet are you from again?
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That was his point... Maybe he also runs Linux-PPC on his Mac, which probably doesn't support that many nVidia cards (I don't know, I'm just guessing)... Which, with a "Mactel" (how I hate that nickname) shouldn't be a problem anymore. ;)
 
ruud said:
Yes, in fact it has.
Install any version of windows prior to XP-SP2 on a computer with an open (non-firewalled) internet connection and your machine will be infected prior to even completing the installation process....
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BS, I have a PC for games, and my mom is using it now. NO viruses and she uses it for internet and email and I don't have anything installed except windows. Thats a stupid old wives tale like "if you masturbate too much you'll go sterile."

I neglected to say it has been connected to non firewalled comcast cable internet since day one.
 
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