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i mean, tbh, this computer isn't "ready" until it gets TB3 and next gen chips. I'm waiting at least a year to purchase.
 
Opposite for my iMac, display is on the way out, internals still strong

Yeah I've seen my share of those as well. Displays don't last as long with hot components mounted on the back.

Check out the case for any quality display: it's full of cooling vents. On a 27" display, even a relatively cool running LED backlight has heat pouring out of the vents.

Low end AIOs are a different ball of wax. AIOs are great for schools or businesses to deploy.

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It has nothing to do with the GPU, it's the display port model. Also, you can more than likely use two ports on the current mac pro to run 5k

Guess what's on a video card: a DisplayPort port! So you can get DisplayPort 1.3 when you upgrade the GPU (video card) on a Mac Pro.

On a nMP, the DisplayPort architechture doesn't even seem to be associated with the physical video cards, so IF you could swap in new ones, it sill wouldn't matter.

Two DisplayPort 1.2 to run a 5K display? Got any citations for that claim? I can't find any 5K displays that support that kludge.
 
Two DisplayPort 1.2 to run a 5K display? Got any citations for that claim? I can't find any 5K displays that support that kludge.

The Dell.

"With the Dell UltraSharp 27 Ultra HD 5K Monitor UP2715K you basically get 70 percent more pixels, there are so many pixels in this monster panel that in order to drive all those pixels you’ll have to use two DisplayPort 1.2 ports. On other tech specs, this new monitor features 218 PPI and color depth of 1 billion colors. And a miniDisplayPort that can be used to drive in 4K mode."
 
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to upgrade or not to upgrade

I have a late 2009 27" iMac....this one has been acting up lately. Recently had to replace the hard drive, increased the memory at the same time to 16gb. Trying to run CS6 and it's just slow/slugish.

It's time for an upgrade. Would you go with the 5k or non 5k display? Is it really worth the extra dough for the 5k? Is the difference that noticeable? I do a lot of work in lightroom and premiere pro.
 
Could Apple release a 4K display in the interim? May not be business savvy though (?). :(

They are likely to make a 21 iMac retina and kill off the low res models eventually. During all this, a 21 4k Cinema Display would make sense and 3 could be connected to a 2013 pro.

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I have a late 2009 27" iMac....this one has been acting up lately. Recently had to replace the hard drive, increased the memory at the same time to 16gb. Trying to run CS6 and it's just slow/slugish.

It's time for an upgrade. Would you go with the 5k or non 5k display? Is it really worth the extra dough for the 5k? Is the difference that noticeable? I do a lot of work in lightroom and premiere pro.

Holy cow yes, nothing better in the universe today for Photoshop users.
 
Inclusion for 5k display for $2500 iMac is commendable.

But today's top of the line mobile GPUs are not 5k ready. Period. I am worried how fast the internals start to feel aged compared to the screen.

You won't be able to run games in 5K, but for software development and photography it'll be fine. The CPU will last for years I believe. You'll probably want an Oculus for 3D gaming anyway.
 
All I want to know is,

When you start really tasking that CPU with Protools / Audio duties....does the fan kick in with a vengeance just as quickly as my top-end LapTop?

I hope not, since those fans on my MBPr are LOUD.

best,
SvK
 
All I want to know is,

When you start really tasking that CPU with Protools / Audio duties....does the fan kick in with a vengeance just as quickly as my top-end LapTop?

I hope not, since those fans on my MBPr are LOUD.

best,
SvK
No, the iMac runs cooler than MacBooks. I rarely hear my fan even playing 4K videos.
 
The Dell.

"With the Dell UltraSharp 27 Ultra HD 5K Monitor UP2715K you basically get 70 percent more pixels, there are so many pixels in this monster panel that in order to drive all those pixels you’ll have to use two DisplayPort 1.2 ports. On other tech specs, this new monitor features 218 PPI and color depth of 1 billion colors. And a miniDisplayPort that can be used to drive in 4K mode."

D'oh! Thanks for the citation, I stand corrected!

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No. You can remove the factory installed RAM. But as always, you want to pair identical RAM chips. So if you want to upgrade with more 8GB chips, get the 16GB ram upgrade.
They seem to be sold in matching "pairs", but...

- OWC sells 12GB upgrades for the most recent 27" iMacs consisting of a 4GB module paired with an 8GB module. Are they being irresponsible there?

- Is there any advantage to having both pairs match each other? Is there anything wrong with 2x4GB next to 2x8GB for a total of 24GB?

Since the cost to upgrade to 16GB is the same as outright buying 16GB of memory, wouldn't it be better to just buy the aftermarket RAM and install it next to the existing 8GB so you have a total of 24 for the same price as upgrading to 16GB? That was what I was planning on recommending to a friend.

And then you have the option to upgrade from 24->32GB later by replacing the original 2x4GB pair, and then you'd have extra (wasted?) RAM laying around, but 24GB would probably last quite a while before that would happen.
 
and for a high-end monitor you'd probably want 32 bits/pixel anyway.
Slight miss here. There is no 32-bit mode for monitors.

32-bit colour modes you usually see in images, are 4 channels:
8-bit Red
8-bit Green
8-bit Blue
8-bit Alpha

The last, 8-bit alpha - is non-applicable to displays. Its only useful on the computer during rendering.

You do have 10-bit channel options (30-bit), but OSX does not support it. In fact, consumer GPUs don't support it. And few displays support it.

Its only available on NVIDIA and AMD 'professional' cards that implement their respective full professional capabilities. (The Mac Pro GPUs do not do this)
 
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idk. the price is both decent and bad.

The display is great, but the pc specs are kind of bla for the price. I've owned displays far longer then pc's. and well this display 'dies' when the pc it comes with dies.

See this is a rather decent point. It's sad that it doesn't work with target display mode.
 
They seem to be sold in matching "pairs", but...

- OWC sells 12GB upgrades for the most recent 27" iMacs consisting of a 4GB module paired with an 8GB module. Are they being irresponsible there?

- Is there any advantage to having both pairs match each other? Is there anything wrong with 2x4GB next to 2x8GB for a total of 24GB?

Since the cost to upgrade to 16GB is the same as outright buying 16GB of memory, wouldn't it be better to just buy the aftermarket RAM and install it next to the existing 8GB so you have a total of 24 for the same price as upgrading to 16GB? That was what I was planning on recommending to a friend.

And then you have the option to upgrade from 24->32GB later by replacing the original 2x4GB pair, and then you'd have extra (wasted?) RAM laying around, but 24GB would probably last quite a while before that would happen.
This is exactly what I was thinking of doing.
 
This got the biggest attention...

5120x2880, may seem great, if all u intent to do is admire your wallpapers all day, or use Mac apps, but outside of this, most users won't be experiencing native 5k since no 5k content is even available.

You may as well call this a paper weight, for the most part.

If it was "just round the corner" than maybe i'd agree. but we havan't even got 4k out yet as mainstream..

If any, i'll give Apple credit for one thing.... the thin design, and their the First for 5k :)


Well done...

(edit. I can't believe its still starts at an i5, regardless if all the pixels are handled by GPU alone.... I would of thought a better CPU initially, and not just an option for i7.
 
Are users really going to zoom in all day on their photos to say "this is gorgeous" ? or would everyone rather just get their work done ?

I like the 5K image on Apple's site... Unless your viewing the 5K image on the 5K iMac, no one would be able to tell its a 5K image, except there are scroll bars, it would look good, but it those users are not seeing it native under any situation.
 
How can you say that? You have a retina MBP. Have you noticed the quality of fonts? The retina iMac has the same thing, except in 27".

Yes, fonts are nice, but its nothing to get loose sleep over.

I'm actually even more interested Apple only did this to the 3.5 Gig 27-inch, not the 3.4 Gig version. Apple could of also upped the GPU on the lower one too, then people would have a better choice.
 
In two or three years time, someone will pay you excellent money for that "disposable" computer. And what is that nonsense about not being able to replace the battery on a MacBook Pro? You bring it to an Apple Store, and they have no problem whatsoever replacing your battery.

My point was Apple is trying to make all computers disposable commodity. Even the most expensive Macbook Pro is treated that way, so expect the 27" retina iMac to go the same route later. I wasn't talking about how bad (or good) that actually is. Why are you being so sensitive? I didn't quote you on the matter anyway.

But if you want a bit of argument, yeah Apple could replace anything inside their Macbook. At a cost. That's just another easy way to sell the AppleCare. The battery is glued to front chassis, RAM and storage is soldered to the main board. The only good thing about it is that it's thin and sexy. But it will make me go broke if I need to replace them without the warranty.

And when it breaks after the warranty, you can forget the excellent money for that disposable. That's a good thing for you, I guess.
 
Understood.

But the Mac Pro is the flagship Mac and if an iMac is able to run a 5K display so should a Mac Pro.

Well not always. You remember the old MacPro was left unrevised from 2010 to 2013. It was the most expensive Mac (supposedly also the fastest Mac) yet but it didn't have Thunderbolt or even USB 3, even the graphic was a cheap consumer grade (Radeon 5750/5850). Meanwhile iMac and even Mac Mini revised several times during that period with all the bell and whistles.

It is strange, but flagships don't always get all the candies in Apple's world.
 
I think that this a very cool machine. Maxed out, it is a very reasonably priced. For anyone interested in high resolution monitors this looks like the ticket for the foreseeable future.
 
- Is there any advantage to having both pairs match each other? Is there anything wrong with 2x4GB next to 2x8GB for a total of 24GB?

No, I believe that shouldn't cause any issues. But if you do plan to max out later on, you will get stuck with pretty useless 4GB chips (surprisingly hard to resell).
 
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