Well, if we’re talking regular idiot customers, a TON of them signed up for one of the “new phone every year” plans, so the “killer feature” for them is that “it exists.”REGULAR idiot customer
For starters, the depth of an optical zoom camera lens plus the fragility of the zoom mechanism makes your desire impracticable in the banged-up life of a skinny phone.. More importantly, using fixed lenses is actually better, and can yield better results. In professional cameras and lenses, a fixed focal length lens is normally preferred and typically has better optical quality across the image. The fixed focal length lens is referred to as a “prime” lens. A zoom is just a more affordable option to have multiple focal lengths in one lens - especially if shooting in various locations. Any professional photographer will have a couple of “prime” lenses in his bag, especially for portraiture photography, and swap lenses depending on his needs. It is incorrect (or at least not well informed) to consider 2 lenses to be “mediocre” compared to a single zoom that covers the same focal lengths.
No one is saying that a phone camera can ever be as good as a traditional camera that does not have the size constraints of a phone. What am saying, is that the advantages of the two lenses are the same at the scale of the phone as they are to the (D)SLR or mirrorless. It is better, and certainly more reliable (in the life of a phone) to have 2 prime lenses than it is to have 1 zoom. And that is why they bother creating a “Frankenstein” smartphone camera, because it is the better solution for the highest quality images for that given formfactor.I know all that. The number of lenses you have on a smart phone does not make the quality better due to the fact they are more then one since thy all are limited to their size, the amount of light they pass through and more importantly the size of the image sensor. My point here is why? Why bother creating frankinstain smartphone with many cameras that pretends to do a lot of stuff at a mediocre level? Mediocre level because they will never be as good as dedicated cameras, no matter how hard they try.
Here comes my plea that Im sure its not gonna change anything! Guys! Stop buying these phones! If you need a new phone go iPhone 8 or wait for XR. Buying the phones in the 1200-1500 EUR range is insane. That is not good for anyone!
It is not good for consumers as they have significant price hikes from year to year. I understand that we pay premium for the privilege of using MacOS and iOS but Apple is going too far. They testing waters how high can they go to increase the profits and maintain market share. As long as people are buying them in millions nothing would change.
It is not good for environment as we are producing tons of waste just in the name of having so called newest and greatest. It makes no sense. Our previous models are equally good!
Its not good for Apple as they will get lazy and not even try to be more reasonable with the customers. Why would they if they can sell everything at any price point? They dont even include proper cables and charger in the 1200EUR phone. Thats telling! And as I mentioned at some point I find it insulting.
Its not good for society as the social pressure to have the newest gadgets is enormous. And I bet you that a lot of people is buying things they cant afford just not to be seen as "worse". Look at the post about the delays. People are getting furious about 2 day shipment delay. It is a complete corruption of values. I could go on and on but I hope you get my point.
I payed 5000USD for the MBP and although i find it overpriced I tend to keep my laptops for many many years and use them for work so that somehow justifies the spending. But phones? They slowly creeping up with the prices of AW too. On every front starting from the hardware through the Apple care.
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The edge detection for bokeh effect does seem improved. I think they can do better in the software, it still looks more like a simple blur than optical bokeh, particularly with respect to how specular highlights are processed.
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Why are you assuming consumers are evaluating what Apple does as a result of our purchases? We don't think that way. if we want a device and we can afford it, we buy it. Nobody cares what the manufacturer does as a result of you buying that device.
If Apple starts offering things people don't want, their sales will suffer. Let them worry about that. You are emotionally invested in this for some reason. For a company that has made very strong efforts to be environmentally responsible, you should hope every company followed Apple in this regard. And if their products are too expensive for you, just stop buying them. It is just that simple. Let us keep buying their products if we think they are a good value and stop worrying about what society does.
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Ah, the "everyone is an idiot so don't let a company tell you what to do" argument.Listen. Its easy. People have no idea what they want. 99% of them. They are driven buy marketing as they do not possess neither knowledge nor commitment to understand.
Ah, the "everyone is an idiot so don't let a company tell you what to do" argument.
Speak for yourself. People make decisions about what to do with their money. Stop making it sound like it's mind control when you are upset at how much things cost that you want.
The A12 is the best chip ever made by Apple untill next year when the A13 will be the bomb.The XS is superior to the X in literally every way. The A12 also might be the most significant chip upgrade in iPhone history.
The OP was asking if the XS Max had the special landscape mode that the Plus models had, which it and the XR do (though the X and XS don’t). Then another poster started talking about rotation lock, which is why I responded that I didn’t think we were talking about the same thing.They do. It's in the Control Panel on the iPhone. Looks like a Padlock with a arrow circling around it.
Ok.The OP was asking if the XS Max had the special landscape mode that the Plus models had, which it and the XR do (though the X and XS don’t). Then another poster started talking about rotation lock, which is why I responded that I didn’t think we were talking about the same thing.
One thing that kinda surprised me is that the bottom has an extra antenna band and no longer is symmetric as to the number of speaker/mic holes on either side of the lightning port. It certainly doesn't look bad, but given how they went out of their way to achieve symmetry before, even with some of the holes on the mic side actually being plugged from behind, it wasn't expected to see form follow function this time around. My engineering brain is happy about it though.
But it is a smartphone with a camera on it and not a camera with a smartphone functions build in it. It will never replace professional cameras, even if you put hundreds of lens on it. They will always be mediocre quality compare to professional ones. As surprise as it may be for some people, physics do apply here too.
i got the red iPhone 8. only complaint is the small battery, but i LOVE touch ID and the red color. it does everything i need!The A12 is the best chip ever made by Apple untill next year when the A13 will be the bomb.
Each year we're getting fooled by Apple, Samsung and Co to buy the next big thing just to be able to open Facebook 2 seconds faster and do an ECG with our wrist watches or cool photos of everything we encounter with every 10 steps we take.
Marketing and manipulation is making us miss a lot of important things.
Got myself an iPhone 8 last year and I'm gonna stick with it untill it breaks.
I misread his post first time I read it, he wasn't referring to bokeh, he was referring to focus shift issues in DSLRThey do. It's in the Control Panel on the iPhone. Looks like a Padlock with a arrow circling around it.
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Yes, you CAN do that on a DSLR with a wide-angle lens and a LOT of skill. Not the sort of thing you can do "on the fly" with a DSLR. However, with the pseudo-Bokeh effect, you can do it after the fact on ANY shot!
The camera knows the focal distance, but it doesn't know how far away the rest of the image is.I get what you're saying. I'm sure the software still judges focal distance to blur though. That would be my guess anyway.
Thanks for your concern, my typing is excellent so need to worry yourself!BRO, i get ALL OF THAT. trust me. I'm no novice.
Im speaking in terms of the REGULAR idiot customer, theres no KILLER FEATURE to sell. Even my co-workers and friends said the same. they don't know about under the hood, just a new color.
so please save your typing for something for substantive. WE ALREADY FEEL U lol!!!!
The A12 includes the GPU as well. The CPU is 30% faster in practice because it doesn't throttle as soon as the A11, and the GPU is 50-100% faster. It's massive.....what? How do you justify that response? Quite the opposite has been said about this cpu upgrade
Not true at all. Apple rarely if ever has GPU performance double between generations. The A12 is unique in that regard.The A12 is the best chip ever made by Apple untill next year when the A13 will be the bomb.
Each year we're getting fooled by Apple, Samsung and Co to buy the next big thing just to be able to open Facebook 2 seconds faster and do an ECG with our wrist watches or cool photos of everything we encounter with every 10 steps we take.
Marketing and manipulation is making us miss a lot of important things.
Got myself an iPhone 8 last year and I'm gonna stick with it untill it breaks.
30% faster CPU in practice, and a GPU that is nearly twice as fast? That is MONUMENTAL and has never been done in iPhone history before. Normal people will in fact see a huge difference if they regularly do anything involving graphics on their phone.Lol bro! Are you kidding? It’s the SMALLEST incremental update in apples S-cycle history! If all you’re gonna do is tout a11 to a12, normal people wont see a neglible difference LOL cmon... cmon. Deluded!
If you want to have finer control over your bokeh you should definitely check out an app called Focos. It even lets you choose where the blur starts and ends with a depth map of the photo!
Can you explain to me in layman’s terms all the things I can do with this new phone that couldn’t be done with last years phone?The A12 includes the GPU as well. The CPU is 30% faster in practice because it doesn't throttle as soon as the A11, and the GPU is 50-100% faster. It's massive.
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Not true at all. Apple rarely if ever has GPU performance double between generations. The A12 is unique in that regard.
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30% faster CPU in practice, and a GPU that is nearly twice as fast? That is MONUMENTAL and has never been done in iPhone history before. Normal people will in fact see a huge difference if they regularly do anything involving graphics on their phone.
The neural engine is also something like 7x faster.