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I don't like the force touch thing. Sounds confusing, leaves you guessing what to do (double tap, single tap, force click, too many options). Personally, I prefer touchpads that don't click at all. Just tap on the touchpad. Works flawlessly on my $500 Dell.

Go into options and switch on "Tap to click". I never click and I prefer it like this.
 
I really hope Apple has the guts to backtrack on this awful sounding keyboard on the next version of this machine.

Even if it has to be *gasp* thinner.

Apple thought no backlight on the keys was a good idea once. They were wrong. They seem to be wrong here.

First, it does have a backlight, for the individual keys. Secondly, you never even 'touched' the keyboard. How can you hate on it?
 
In other news, Zero Halliburton announces a case too thin for the new laptop. But it does come in gold and many shades of gray.
 
I'll pass on this one. Cool innovations though. Interesting that they call this a "Macbook". What does that portend for the Air and Pro lines?
 
Wow a new product that might take some getting used to. Duh. On Twitter Ben Thompson said the new trackpad is "crazy" and "plays tricks with your mind". Jason Snell called the keyboard "impressive".

A keyboard shouldn't take time to get used to. It's like a toaster or a microwave. It should feel intuitive the moment you use it.
 
I'll pass on this one. Cool innovations though. Interesting that they call this a "Macbook". What does that portend for the Air and Pro lines?

For the air line, likely death of name.

For the Pro, likely death of name as well and merge it all into one line.
 
I know I have already posted this in another thread, but it's worth repeating here. I would not be surprised to find the 15" Skylake rMBP with only two ports: Thunderbolt 3 and USB-C

That's exactly why I'm sticking with my current rMBP with plenty of necessary ports available to me.

I wasn't thrilled when they removed the optical drive from the MBP line either, but I've learned to live with it.
 
A keyboard shouldn't take time to get used to. It's like a toaster or a microwave. It should feel intuitive the moment you use it.

Not necessarily. If you have only used laptop keyboards and then start using a mechanical desktop keyboard, it will take time getting used to it. You'll also realise how a mechanical keyboard with proper key travel is so much better, but obviously not feasible on a laptop :)
 
Great, only one port on the laptop.

I can't wait to see the spider's nest of cables and plugs that some people are going to need with this one.

HDMI, power, USB for external devices... All going through one port.

Who thought this would be a good idea? Oh, right. Jony...

It's not marketed for our kind of consumers. It is for those simple minded people who do one thing at a time.
 
"Though the buttons are indeed flat, and though they aren't cushy, they are still springy. They pop back up when I hit them. That means I can type at a gingerly pace and know that for the most part, I won't miss a key, and that most of my button presses will register."

Sounds like damning with faint praise to me. "Most" of my button presses will register? I would expect that on a $399 HP laptop. Not a > $1,000 MacBook. Seems to me like they may have put form way over function with this machine.
 
First, it does have a backlight, for the individual keys. Secondly, you never even 'touched' the keyboard. How can you hate on it?

If you'd read, you'd note that i said Apple had got rid of keyboard backlights once and thought better of it - they did, on the 2011 Macbook Air.

I hope they have the confidence to to the same here, and really radically rethink this machine and scrap the keyboard.

I can "hate" on it pretty easily by having typed for thirty years and knowing that travel on a keyboard is non-negotiable, and anything less than the current Air isn't enough, and the uniformly negative reviews from the hands on so far suggest I'm right.
 
I am concerned by the negative reports of the keyboard. It's one of the most critical parts of a laptop, and in sounds like no one likes it. I'll be trying it out when it gets to the stores, but a bad keyboard could easily be a dealbreaker to anyone who writes on it.

The single port is likely to be a dealbreaker for anyone who (like me) uses a MBA as their primary machine for a wide variety of tasks. I frequently have thumbdrives, USB devices, and SD cards in my MBA - simultaneously - while it's plugged into power.

The only big segments of the MBA's market that's left after those categories are lightweight users, who are increasingly moving to iOS devices.

I can't help but think this thing is going to be a bit of a flop. Too many design sacrifices for the sake of thinness.
 
Not necessarily. If you have only used laptop keyboards and then start using a mechanical desktop keyboard, it will take time getting used to it. You'll also realise how a mechanical keyboard with proper key travel is so much better, but obviously not feasible on a laptop :)

I just bought a Razr mechanical keyboard (the $125 version) for my nephew to play League of Legends this past christmas. Without prior experience..I got used to it in 3 seconds...
 
I have always loved the trackpad over a traditional mouse. This machine has me. I want it. However, I would've liked a more powerful processor.
 
Huh?

Great, only one port on the laptop.

I can't wait to see the spider's nest of cables and plugs that some people are going to need with this one.

HDMI, power, USB for external devices, Thunderbolt... All going through one port.

Who thought this would be a good idea? Oh, right. Jony...

The people this was made for will be using some sort of wireless for video, MIGHT care about a USB key, have no idea what Thunderbolt is, and we all still have to plug in power.

Why do so many people think every Mac has to be all things for all people?
 
I just bought a Razr mechanical keyboard (the $125 version) for my nephew to play League of Legends this past christmas. Without prior experience..I got used to it in 3 seconds...

That can be the case too. To be honest though, I am not going to make any sort of judgement on this new keyboard until I have actually tried it myself.
 
In shock...

I'm shocked by this new macbook.
Out of the box it can't connect to an external display, read from a DVD, read an SD card, or connect to anything USB while charging. Wanna do any of these...drop an extra $79 on an adapter? How do I import my pictures from SD cards? Two adapters?
 
Huh?

I am concerned by the negative reports of the keyboard. It's one of the most critical parts of a laptop, and in sounds like no one likes it. I'll be trying it out when it gets to the stores, but a bad keyboard could easily be a dealbreaker to anyone who writes on it.

The single port is likely to be a dealbreaker for anyone who (like me) uses a MBA as their primary machine for a wide variety of tasks. I frequently have thumbdrives, USB devices, and SD cards in my MBA - simultaneously - while it's plugged into power.

The only big segments of the MBA's market that's left after those categories are lightweight users, who are increasingly moving to iOS devices.

I can't help but think this thing is going to be a bit of a flop. Too many design sacrifices for the sake of thinness.

Then don't buy this as your primary machine. MBPs and MBAs aren't going away.

This is for people who need a little bit more than an iPad.
 
The people this was made for will be using some sort of wireless for video, MIGHT care about a USB key, have no idea what Thunderbolt is, and we all still have to plug in power.

Why do so many people think every Mac has to be all things for all people?

I'm just becoming increasingly more concerned because the Mac laptop line continues to lose features and capabilities, all in the misguided quest of becoming thinner and thinner.
 
How would one charge and have plugged into an external display, at the same time? And, ideally, have a USB hub attached as well? Does this USB spec support something like a dock that also passes power?
 
Huh?

I'm shocked by this new macbook.
Out of the box it can't connect to an external display, read from a DVD, read an SD card, or connect to anything USB while charging. Wanna do any of these...drop an extra $79 on an adapter? How do I import my pictures from SD cards? Two adapters?

1. Most people looking for this kind of laptop won't use an external.
2. DVD...seriously? You mentioned that seriously?
3. Wireless or USB adapter.
4. What USB device are you going to connect to?
5. You'd import your pictures from your iPhone like most users would.
 
The people this was made for will be using some sort of wireless for video, MIGHT care about a USB key, have no idea what Thunderbolt is, and we all still have to plug in power.

Why do so many people think every Mac has to be all things for all people?
This thing will sell well, no matter how much people cry about it on sites like this. Many people believe that if they cannot use it, then no one can. This is not the case.
 
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