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I like the look - nothing radical, nothing really new.
But the processor would be a total killer for me.

Plus it appears to cost more than a pro!!!
 
Okay...?

I'm just becoming increasingly more concerned because the Mac laptop line continues to lose features and capabilities, all in the misguided spirit of becoming thinner and thinner.

Okay, let me know when the MBP goes away and I'll believe you.

People had similar complaints about the MBA when they came out.
 
Okay, let me know when the MBP goes away and I'll believe you.

People had similar complaints about the MBA when they came out.

I'm not so confident that the MBP line will stick around at this rate. They're inching more and more towards one universal MacBook line.
 
I'm just becoming increasingly more concerned because the Mac laptop line continues to lose features and capabilities, all in the misguided quest of becoming thinner and thinner.

In what way? It's gaining features

* The ability to transfer data at stupid fast speeds without resorting to esoteric and very expensive solutions.
* High resolution screens

I am guessing your main gripes are memory upgrades and a DVD drive? Not everyone has the same needs as you. You can either go and buy the product that meets your needs, or cry on forums. The choice is yours.
 
Great, only one port on the laptop.

I can't wait to see the spider's nest of cables and plugs that some people are going to need with this one.

HDMI, power, USB for external devices, Thunderbolt... All going through one port.

Who thought this would be a good idea? Oh, right. Jony...
frankly, I have the 2012 rMBP and its a spiders nest on my desk, and I only have a charger, external audio interface and a disk plugged in.

Docks are 200$ at least... This looks easier.

2x Thunderbolt 3 + USB-C on a new rMBP would be neat.
 
In what way? It's gaining features

* The ability to transfer data at stupid fast speeds without resorting to esoteric and very expensive solutions.
* High resolution screens

I am guessing your main gripes are memory upgrades and a DVD drive? Not everyone has the same needs as you. You can either go and buy the product that meets your needs, or cry on forums. The choice is yours.

I do not consider the loss of USB ports, ethernet ports, Thunderbolt ports, and optical drive as gaining features.
 
How would one charge and have plugged into an external display, at the same time? And, ideally, have a USB hub attached as well? Does this USB spec support something like a dock that also passes power?

With an adaptor that has its own story on the front page.
 
Looks beautiful except for the large screen bezel. I actually like the design of the new Dell XPS laptops in terms of keyboard, trackpad, and screen geometry/placement. Still not as nice overall as Apple laptops but better in those ways.
 
Looks beautiful except for the large screen bezel. I actually like the design of the new Dell XPS laptops in terms of keyboard, trackpad, and screen geometry/placement. Still not as nice overall as Apple laptops but better in those ways.

Everything is a tradeoff. They could have put in a bigger screen w/smaller bezel... which uses more power... resulting in shorter battery life.

Personally, I think the MBA bezels are too big. These aren't really a big deal. I'll take the longer batter life.

Besides, while the Dell XPS laptop screens look nice, running Windows on my personal notebook a deal-breaker for me. I already have to suffer using a Windows machine at the office all day. Tripe.
 
1. Most people looking for this kind of laptop won't use an external.
2. DVD...seriously? You mentioned that seriously?
3. Wireless or USB adapter.
4. What USB device are you going to connect to?
5. You'd import your pictures from your iPhone like most users would.

1. Okay, I can accept that...esp since if I were connecting to an external I wouldn't mind using an adapter.

2. Lot of DVD's still being sold and rented. Not so crazy...external superdrive is acceptable but now incompatible without an adapter.

3. Huh?

4. I use a USB mouse, I have a USB printer. Sure, I could go buy an all new printer and bluetooth mouse...but that's just dumb.

5. You're a moron. Not everyone uses their iPhone as their only source of camera. I have a DSLR. Have a GoPro for video. Neither have wireless.
 
I do not consider the loss of USB ports, ethernet ports, Thunderbolt ports, and optical drive as gaining features.

lol. We are not losing thunderbolt ports on the MBAs or MBPs. Let's come back to this discussion when the Skylake rMBP is released with Thunderbolt 3. This computer is designed for a purpose and Apple felt that Thunderbolt was not a necessary feature for the target market. The good news is that the TB3 port is also thinner, so it may find itself back on the 2nd gen Macbook, or it may not. Apple likes to differentiate their products in specific ways. Should all ports and all features be on all products?

* You have not lost USB ports with this new Macbook. You have a shiny new USB-C port.

* USB to Ethernet adaptors exist and can be used with this product

* An optical drive is not a feature, it is a relic.

First you tried to insinuate that "losing features" is endemic to all Macbooks, now you're concentrating on this new product. It would help me to understand what you're actually trying to say instead of trying to throw everything and seeing what sticks to justify your ramblings.

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1. Okay, I can accept that...esp since if I were connecting to an external I wouldn't mind using an adapter.

2. Lot of DVD's still being sold and rented. Not so crazy...external superdrive is acceptable but now incompatible without an adapter.

3. Huh?

4. I use a USB mouse, I have a USB printer. Sure, I could go buy an all new printer and bluetooth mouse...but that's just dumb.

5. You're a moron. Not everyone uses their iPhone as their only source of camera. I have a DSLR. Have a GoPro for video. Neither have wireless.
And you can still use your USB devices with this new Macbook. I know it's shocking that Apple didn't design this computer specifically for you.
 
You plug this into the Apple monitor and all your ports come back albeit the Apple monitor needs a bit of an update but that's the platform you're buying into.

The idea of this laptop is thatyou would rather have a more lightweight smaller device on the go.

Anyway if you really want ports and more choice in ports then probably best to go with a Windows laptop.
 
I really hope Apple has the guts to backtrack on this awful sounding keyboard on the next version of this machine.

Even if it has to be *gasp* thinner.

Apple thought no backlight on the keys was a good idea once. They were wrong. They seem to be wrong here.

What? Nobody is saying "awful". They're saying you have to get used to it. I have no problems with that even if it takes a whole day of getting used to.
I had to get used to using the first chicklet style keyboard, but once I did, I prefer it over the traditional keyboards.
 
HDMI, power, USB for external devices... All going through one port.

There are a couple of adapters already on the store - I guess the must-have one is going to be this:

http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MJ1K2ZM/A/usb-c-digital-av-multiport-adapter.

...so you can connect a regular USB device, a display and use the USB-C port for charging - which is going to be fine until actual USB-C peripherals start to appear.

On the one hand, it seems likely that USB-C will take off in the wider PC world in a way that Thunderbolt never has, so there should be plenty of third party hubs and peripherals in the future. On the other hand, if PC makers do the sane thing and include more than one port on their computers, third party devices might not include the crucial 'passthrough' port for charging.

I guess many MacBook customers will be able to live with a single port (until the day when they have to show a presentation but forgot to charge up beforehand) but it would be a deal-breaker if the concept spreads to the MacBook Pro.

Waiting for the meeting where some bozo walks up to me with a shiny new MacBook, a USB stick with the crucial presentation on it, an old MiniDP-to-DVI connector and a hopeful expression...
 
lol. We are not losing thunderbolt ports on the MBAs or MBPs. Let's come back to this discussion when the Skylake rMBP is released with Thunderbolt 3. This computer is designed for a purpose and Apple felt that Thunderbolt was not a necessary feature for the target market. The good news is that the TB3 port is also thinner, so it may find itself back on the 2nd gen Macbook, or it may not. Apple likes to differentiate their products in specific ways. Should all ports and all features be on all products?

* You have not lost USB ports with this new Macbook. You have a shiny new USB-C port.

* USB to Ethernet adaptors exist and can be used with this product

* An optical drive is not a feature, it is a relic.

First you tried to insinuate that "losing features" is endemic to all Macbooks, now you're concentrating on this new product. It would help me to understand what you're actually trying to say instead of trying to throw everything and seeing what sticks to justify your ramblings.

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And you can still use your USB devices with this new Macbook. I know it's shocking that Apple didn't design this computer specifically for you.

Had you read my post you'd see I pointing out thing you CANNOT do with this laptop out of the box...meaning without purchasing extra stuff.
 
...and where is the 17" MB Pro retina with Broadwell and @ 75% lighter and 80% slimmer?
...I bet they would sell boatloads if they decide to bring it back @ this year's WWDC or in the fall. :eek:
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Oh, iPadProXL, I would LOVE to see the return of a larger-screen MacBook Pro!! I really do hope that it happens at this year's WWDC as you suggest, it would really redefine the professional laptop in the same way that the redesigned Mac Pro redefined the professional desktop!
 
I really hope Apple has the guts to backtrack on this awful sounding keyboard on the next version of this machine.

Even if it has to be *gasp* thinner.

Apple thought no backlight on the keys was a good idea once. They were wrong. They seem to be wrong here.

what are you talking about? who is saying its "awful"? links
 
I do not consider the loss of USB ports, ethernet ports, Thunderbolt ports, and optical drive as gaining features.

Tell me which feature is lost. There's nothing you can't do with this that you could do with another MacBook given the capabilities of USB Type C and adaptors, so there's no loss of functionality.

The only exception is if your goal is literally "physically insert an optical disc inside the computer" and not something reasonable like "transfer the data from an optical disc to my computer's hard drive".

How do you manage, given that the history of computing is a history of abandoned ports? From your point of view computers have been losing functionality since forever.

Had you read my post you'd see I pointing out thing you CANNOT do with this laptop out of the box...meaning without purchasing extra stuff.

So what are you saying? That they should have had an ethernet port on this device, or an optical drive, or something else? Tell us exactly what this should have had out of the box so we don't go in circles.
 
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