here another screenshot...
Turn the lights on and/or go outside and take another picture.
I'd like to see the difference between LCD and OLED in light/daylight.
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iPod touch First impressions of Zune HD
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Turn the lights on and/or go outside and take another picture.
I'd like to see the difference between LCD and OLED in light/daylight.
I believe OLED should hold up better than LCD in brightly lit conditions theoretically, so I'm not sure what the AppleInsider "article" was talking about, especially since they didn't even have a Zune HD to test out.
I'd like to see pics too, I should be getting my Zune HD in a few hours. I'll post pics of it when I do.
Ok, somethings definitely up. Have a look at these 2 images. You'll notice my Zune's not wrapping and generally shrinking the site down. I'm wondering now if my (maybe chris' too) Zune didn't get the whole IE...
I've heard from many sources other than AppleInsider that OLED doesn't perform as well in daylight and that the organic compounds (especially in the blue pixels) break down much faster than LCD.
I'm not saying it's definitely true, which is why I asked the poster with the Zune to take some outside photos.
A Microsoft PMP working with Apple software would be like using a Chevy key to drive a BMW.
Probably not the best analogy, but I hope you know what I mean...
Like Engadget: http://www.engadget.com/photos/sony-oled-walkman-nwz-x1050-hands-on/1533657/
(I knew those pics of the Sony OLED PMP were around somewhere...)
This is outside porch - direct shot...
And this one is next to the window, from an angle .... with all the glare and everything... Zune is at medium brightness and iphone is at 50%
I don't understand what the fuzz is all about really.... It looks just fine compared to iphone...
Anyways...I am very happy with it... 2 thumbs up from me.... If you guys have any questions, just ask... I'll try my best to answer them....
And this one is next to the window, from an angle .... with all the glare and everything... Zune is at medium brightness and iphone is at 50%
I don't understand what the fuzz is all about really.... It looks just fine compared to iphone...
Anyways...I am very happy with it... 2 thumbs up from me.... If you guys have any questions, just ask... I'll try my best to answer them....
This is outside porch - direct shot...
And this one is next to the window, from an angle .... with all the glare and everything... Zune is at medium brightness and iphone is at 50%
I don't understand what the fuzz is all about really.... It looks just fine compared to iphone...
Anyways...I am very happy with it... 2 thumbs up from me.... If you guys have any questions, just ask... I'll try my best to answer them....
Looks like the contrast holds up better on the iPhone in the second photo.
The light looks pretty soft too. Cloudy day?
Also, taking shots with glare kind of defeats the purpose of the test...
(PS - I'm not trying to be biased. Just going by what I see)
Yes it's a cloudy day... looks like its going to rain.....
I wanted glares in there, so that you can see how bad/good/ok the visibility is under bad conditions ....
In person, to me they look about the same... not something I'd pay much attention....
Now a few good things...
- Just like slacker, you can swipe the album art and skip the song.. or go back... I was actually looking for an app to do that with my iphone... (I even asked it in Apps forum, some time ago).... I am very happy to see that it's a built in feature....
- oh I realized when I tilt it, the menus tilt too.... cool ...
I think the Zune screen looks awesome!
You had mentioned that your iPhone/touch screens' "black" looked washed out in comparison, ... I was just curious how bright you were running the screens at (as everything looked washed out in your prior shots).
Cookies : enabled
Script : enabled
I didn't play with internet settings at all. I just enabled "wireless sync" via software and that was it... (asked for my network password etc..)
HD radio is capable of extra audio fidelity, and can even carry surround formats. Quite simply, you are wrong.
And loading Gizmodo's full site will have your progress bar underneath at the bottom go from 1/2 black and white to all black, full, and gone in under 14 seconds? I know the page comes up right away, but the bar takes almost 1min 40 seconds to finish w/ script on.
Turn script off and it's only a 20 second wait.
Turn script off and it's only a 20 second wait.
Thanks for the review. Very detailed. Thanks to the people that added pictures. The HD looks pretty awesome actually, and it looks like people will get the same game functionality out of it that users get from the iPhone. Can't wait to see a competing app store flourish.
I still can't get over how long it takes to sync music to the device. I added about 9Gb to the 10 that I put on the phone this morning, and it's taking even longer than it did then. It's been syncing a little over and hour and 50 minutes right now, and it's only at 36% complete adding the additional 9Gb of music. It took almost an hour this morning. Anyone else experiencing long sync times? I know it's not this computer or USB port, it's the same one I use for my iPhone, and it flies with that.
chris, I haven't synced that much, but mine did get hung up for quite some time trying to convert something. As for speed, I think I did a Gig in a minute or two? That would about 10 to 20 minutes for your 1 hr and something...yeah, not right bud.
Also, how long does it take Giz to load up w/ script off? I think our friend cenetti wasn't counting the progress bar in his timed run.
The other thing I found funny was that the columns would go weird and keep long lines if you view in portrait...on some sites. And it can reset if you lose wifi connection.
So I had to delete history, disable cookies, disable script, toggle wifi, then browse in portrait only to Gizmodo. It loaded in almost 20 seconds and the center column proved quite readable.
Now this is still a bummer because portrait reading on the iwhatever causes less scrolling on some sites and generally I find it more relaxing to read on. And of course that extra .2 and some change (those extra pixel) really come in handy for browsing.
I'm mixed at this point. How bout you? It sure sounds great. And audiosurf alone would be fantastic on this device. I'm still amazed at how many times I confuse the bezel for the screen and vice versa. It's like a mini plasma.
Also, how long does it take Giz to load up w/ script off? I think our friend cenetti wasn't counting the progress bar in his timed run.
The other thing I found funny was that the columns would go weird and keep long lines if you view in portrait...on some sites. And it can reset if you lose wifi connection.
So I had to delete history, disable cookies, disable script, toggle wifi, then browse in portrait only to Gizmodo. It loaded in almost 20 seconds and the center column proved quite readable.
Now this is still a bummer because portrait reading on the iwhatever causes less scrolling on some sites and generally I find it more relaxing to read on. And of course that extra .2 and some change (those extra pixel) really come in handy for browsing.
I'm mixed at this point. How bout you? It sure sounds great. And audiosurf alone would be fantastic on this device. I'm still amazed at how many times I confuse the bezel for the screen and vice versa. It's like a mini plasma.
I see now what you're saying. It looks like bar stay there for a while (though about 40 secs or so) but the site up.... it loads up in about 15 secs... everything else is scrollable and useable.. so not a biggie (whatever is causing the hold up)
these "benchmarks" are so very useless to me. In real life situations, I want to read a page (though I don't ever use browser on any of my handhelds).... it's up in 10-20 secs... then I am happy... I don't care if the progress bar finishes or not. ( probably trying to load up an useless script )
here somemore shots....
The problem was that until that little progress bar goes away, the site does not like to double tap zoom or pan very nicely. Basically you're waiting for it.
But it's ok, I've turned off script now and for just browsing and reading I'm sure it'll be fine. We'll see. I'm afraid to start listening to it again or watching a movie...I won't wanna take it back.
Here's a fun shot:
But it's ok, I've turned off script now and for just browsing and reading I'm sure it'll be fine. We'll see. I'm afraid to start listening to it again or watching a movie...I won't wanna take it back.
Here's a fun shot:
Cool.
Can you line them up parallel next time, and do multiple angles at different orientations?
Be nice to have shots under a sunny day too. Anyone else with sunny day? West coast?
Can we get some more comments on the audio quality of the Zune HD with any of the iPod Touches or iPhones? How much better is the music experience on the Zune?
Can the Zune HD display lyrics?
Also, all of my music is from CD's but I use iTunes to rip and tag with lyrics, artist name, album art etc, will this work correctly with the Zune HD?
I'm thinking of waiting for Apple to release a 16GB iPod Touch at $200 and buying that alongside a Zune HD 16GB just for music.
I know I'm getting an iPod Touch just for apps, but whether or not I also get a Zune HD will depend on how much better the audio quality is.
For reference, I would be using Audio Technica Ath-ad900 and Monster Beats Studios (full size).
Can the Zune HD display lyrics?
Also, all of my music is from CD's but I use iTunes to rip and tag with lyrics, artist name, album art etc, will this work correctly with the Zune HD?
I'm thinking of waiting for Apple to release a 16GB iPod Touch at $200 and buying that alongside a Zune HD 16GB just for music.
I know I'm getting an iPod Touch just for apps, but whether or not I also get a Zune HD will depend on how much better the audio quality is.
For reference, I would be using Audio Technica Ath-ad900 and Monster Beats Studios (full size).