I also got a zune hd today and I have to say its great. The screen is much crisper than the ipod touch but I do like the ipods software a little better. I was suprised to see how thin and light it is. I planned on getting the av dock today also but the new nanos got to me last week and I ordered one so I didnt have enough money but I will get one soon so Ill see how that part works out. Anyway as stated early it doesnt have alot of apps but neither did the ipod touch until a year after its release so give it time. Tomorrow Im going to compare it to my 1st and 2nd gen ipod touch to see how it competes.