If Nintendo REALLY wants "nothing to worry about", they should make an iOS controller, then port like ten thousand games to iOS & make WAY more than they have off their last two consoles and with minimal effort.
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If Nintendo REALLY wants "nothing to worry about", they should make an iOS controller, then port like ten thousand games to iOS & make WAY more than they have off their last two consoles and with minimal effort.
Good point. Also, I think it's the battery that's driving the price... mophie juice pack and the like are $70, so that puts this controller MINUS battery capability about $30. Sounds totally fair.. When they become available at that price w/ no battery... I will jump!
Not using Bluetooth, but Thunderbold is not a bad thing! It's a GREAT thing!
Bluetooth sucks battery! And thanks you Thunderbolt you can charge the iPhone when connected, like this particular one.
I'll still be holding off from buying this, since there was concern with the build quality.
Bluetooth sucks battery! And thanks you Thunderbolt you can charge the iPhone when connected, like this particular one.
I'll still be holding off from buying this, since there was concern with the build quality.
Yeah, this was my first concern to looking at it but the images in the Apple Store clearly show a headphone jack at the top left
http://store.apple.com/us/product/HE449ZM/A/moga-ace-power-game-controller?find=moga
I strongly disagree here. The iPod Hi-Fi was highly superior to the Bose Sounddock. The built quality was awesome, I bet most of them still work like new. It was compatible with all iPods sold at the time, because it featured analogue and optical aux-in. Bose didn't have neither.
People have criticized it because they wanted it, but it was too expensive for them so they made tons of negative comments. The most vocal criticism was the lack of AirTunes feature. But that was 5 years before those became common! That's how much the Hi-Fi sucked, people wanted features that weren't ready for another 5 years!
No wonder Apple basically stopped making accessories after people totally ignored its design and approach! You can hook airport express via optical to it and enjoy airplay. This thing lasts much longer than 99% of other dock speakers, so I guess it is worth every penny...
The problem with lightning is that it's not iPad compatible, and it requires you to buy a new one whenever Apple changes the form factor. I'd rather have Bluetooth.
Of course, what I'd rather have is a wired standalone controller, but that's not a form factor Apple allows.
As others have said it seems like a pretty good start. In a year from now I think there will be some crazy good controllers.
Yeah, and the laws of physics dictate that AirPlay, no matter how incredibly fast it actually is, has just too high latency to enjoy games on the big screen, although, if Nintendo wanted to get some balls-out cash, they could release a dearth of old NES games for the iPod/hone/ad and tap a market 3-5 times the size of their Wii(U) market.
Brave, both of you to predict this (given the size and popularity of the iOS market), personally I think this is great (also I think you're both very wrong), been waiting for these controllers to hit the market since they were announced. I plan to buy one for my iPhone (though not this one - hate the joysticks being in different positions on the right and left side and it sounds a bit cheap in build) and one for my mini.
Will be interesting to see how this impacts gaming on iOS, especially given the new 64-bit architecture chips and whether my PS3 ends up collecting more dust than it has now.
Yep, just as I expected this is absolute garbage. Cheaply made, FAR too expensive, third party garbage controller just like every third party garbage controller I've ever seen/touched. The reviewer says how cheap, and awful it feels. I've never seen a single good third party controller for anything, ever. I've personally held the PS4 and Xbox One controllers and they are both extremely good, and very well made, and thought out (aside from the touchpad's functionality?). They also look very good, especially the Xbox One controller, it looks amazing frankly.
It's really sad because if Apple made one it would be extremely well made, and functional, similar to the PS4 and Xbox One controllers. Third Parties just can't do it, and it's unfortunate because if Apple made one there would be massive support for it, games wouldn't still have touch controls on the screen (I was worried about this, and it is beyond embarrassing). I mean it's absolutely laughable that a game would support third party controllers, yet still have huge on screen touch controls, even when a controller is plugged in? That's just sad. I don't understand why Apple wouldn't make one, it's the only way I see iOS gaming going anywhere beyond Angry Birds and Infinity Blade. I guess they don't understand that AAA developers (aside from the few games that can get away with it) aren't going to waste their time developing for iOS when next to no one is purchasing controllers, when good games require controllers (sorry I don't see touch games as being good, that's just me, they are extremely casual, and repetitive, I think I played Infinity Blade for like 1min before realizing it was repetitive boring garbage haha sorry I know I offended some).
It's really sad because if Apple made one it would be extremely well made, and functional, similar to the PS4 and Xbox One controllers. Third Parties just can't do it, and it's unfortunate because if Apple made one there would be massive support for it, games wouldn't still have touch controls on the screen (I was worried about this, and it is beyond embarrassing). I mean it's absolutely laughable that a game would support third party controllers, yet still have huge on screen touch controls, even when a controller is plugged in? That's just sad. I don't understand why Apple wouldn't make one, it's the only way I see iOS gaming going anywhere beyond Angry Birds and Infinity Blade. I guess they don't understand that AAA developers (aside from the few games that can get away with it) aren't going to waste their time developing for iOS when next to no one is purchasing controllers, when good games require controllers (sorry I don't see touch games as being good, that's just me, they are extremely casual, and repetitive, I think I played Infinity Blade for like 1min before realizing it was repetitive boring garbage haha sorry I know I offended some).
Don't know about the game, but the controller is a clear rip-off of the Xbox 360 controller.
My post was not meant to directly compare the HIFI to the Sound-dock, more to highlight it's inadequacies.
However, I feel you have contradicted your own post here and dare I say, also a little misleading. The issues I have are in bold.
It did not work as designed (iPod sitting on top of the HIFI in cradle) with all iPods whilst it was being sold. It was unreasonable and with poor foresight for it to not work as designed, other than in the workaround manner you describe.
I can hook my iPhone or iPad to my Pioneer SCLX86, via Airplay, or direct connection, but that was not the point of the iPod HIFI from a design and use perspective.
Also the HIFI was a Firewire device. Apple discontinued the HIFI in September 2007, but stocks continued to be on sale and be supported for a long while after that. With Apples push for the consumer to upgrade every year, they immediately dropped FireWire charging support from new iDevices rendering full use obsolete. Unacceptable.
For the record, it was well within my price range. It is just that I indeed took note of the design approach and found it lacking. From the flimsy iPod seating to the wireless remote that did not even allow access the iPod's menu system, to unforgivable non-compatibilty ('native' is you must) ability to seat it on the dock, across the range of iPods within a reasonable service a cycle. What were they thinking?
Why would anybody want to hook an Airport Express to an iPod speaker in this manner? When there were (and are) far many other options in this arena? Even connecting to a decent HIFI system with half decent speakers would have given better results.
We will have to disagree...
First gen or not, this thing is 100 dollars plus the cost of an iPhone or iPod. I bought my kid a 3DS for under $200 for Christmas. Only advantage is the games on iOS are generally cheaper than the 3DS games.
OMG, here we go again, everything is MS derivative, MS is great, Apple is crap, blah, blah, blah, your song never changes, always negative, always.
If that's your opinion with this controller, you'll really hate every single one that follows this one because the specs are designed by Apple and these guys are just following the rules. If you're up for some further Apple loathing, have a look at the MFi specs (especially the drawings of example controllers, note the bottom controller which should really help you reach your pinnacle of hatred for all things Apple): here.
You know standardisation isn't a bad thing, it's certainly not the capital crime of copy (or theft as you have indicated) some would have you think.
It charges your iPhone while you play. It extends play-time.
Qualification for LiIon batteries is not cheap.
Look at the price of Mophie portable chargers.
This alone probably makes up 80% of the cost they need to charge. $99 isn't bad considering that pricy feature.
What they need isa $19 non-charging version, and the $99 charging version. My guess with MiFi certification and the LiIon battery, at $99, their profit margin is extremely slim.
Qualification for LiIon batteries is not cheap.
Look at the price of Mophie portable chargers.
This alone probably makes up 80% of the cost they need to charge. $99 isn't bad considering that pricy feature.
What they need isa $19 non-charging version, and the $99 charging version. My guess with MiFi certification and the LiIon battery, at $99, their profit margin is extremely slim.