Yes it was fun to watch all those folks get all wee weed up over "no 512"when it was pretty obvious that it would have it.All that angst and anger wasted.As usual for these forums.
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Yes it was fun to watch all those folks get all wee weed up over "no 512"when it was pretty obvious that it would have it.All that angst and anger wasted.As usual for these forums.
Flash is not needed for full web experience. There are so many iOS devices now, that web develpers are starting to get it. Flash is dying fast, faster then I even thought it would....
Nothing surprising to see at all in these reviews.
These forum post that display tit for tat make MR more and more popular.
This will just go on and on... To infinity and beyond...- thanks buzz.
These forum post that display tit for tat make MR more and more popular.
This will just go on and on... To infinity and beyond...- thanks buzz.
But is that a meaningful statement for an iOS device? It uses more of a suspended state "multi-using" than OSX or Android that use a more RAM intensive true multi-tasking.
It's not about what currently supports Flash, it's that Apple will never allow Flash onto it's devices for purely money reasons.
But to answer your question the newest iterations of Android support Flash and many of the new Android tablets will do so too.
Most true. Tried taking pictures with a Huawei tablet yesterday. It 6000SUX. I'd rather take pictures with my Compaq laptop at the office.
I think all the tech analysis is funny... who cares? Does the thing work? Does it work quickly, smooth and reliably? Does it do what you want to do with a tablet?
Sure, more Ram is good. Better camera's are good. But it seems like the iPad 2 is a solid tablet with great performance and does what it's designed to do very well.
With all that said... the sales numbers will speak in the end. Fast forward to December 2011, my guess is the iPad will still be the number 1 selling tablet by then.
I'll wait for iPad 3
Really not in a hurry to upgrade. Since playing around with an iPad at the Apple store yesterday and reading these review articles my "desire" to buy the iPad 2 up has subsided.
More improtantly, I'm waiting for iOS 5 and Lion. And to give the Final Draft and Movie Magic Screenwriter apps a chance to work out kinks etc., whenever those are released.
For me, my iPhone is just fine.
I hope everyone enjoys their iPad 2.
Really not in a hurry to upgrade. Since playing around with an iPad at the Apple store yesterday and reading these review articles my "desire" to buy the iPad 2 up has subsided.
More improtantly, I'm waiting for iOS 5 and Lion. And to give the Final Draft and Movie Magic Screenwriter apps a chance to work out kinks etc., whenever those are released.
For me, my iPhone is just fine.
I hope everyone enjoys their iPad 2.
Apple is always evolutionary
The criticism that iPad 2 is evolutionary not revolutionary misses the mark of how apple designs builds and markets their products. Looking back over the last decade, like biological evolution, apple creates new species of devices by small changes year after year in their products at a fairly even pace, doing enough to allow the market to support the new features, while apple monitors the results, and allowing the new feature to gain a foothold (if it does).
If one creates a timeline of all the evolutionary and not revolutionary changes apple has put forth (I have not done that formally - there are others more capable than I to do that), it may become obvious. Apple even does the evolutionary thing by allowing useless appendages to wither away, allowing them to put more energy into new features.
The simple iPod evolved year after year a little at a time into apple tv, iPad, iPhone, ipodtouch; iTunes evolved a little at a time from an application on a Mac that supported iPod syncing, to online music purchases, to movies, to books, to apps, then an independent branch to the Mac app store.
Underlying all this is the evolution for apple of different revenue streams, away from being only a hardware manufacturer.
Like biological evolution, new apple species develop slowly, with each developmental cycle, at the "end" only looking back do we see the continuum.
The most recent proof, if you will, of this approach, is the iPad. Yes, the iPad is just a big ipodtouch. But looking back, it's a new species.
The criticism that iPad 2 is evolutionary not revolutionary misses the mark of how apple designs builds and markets their products. Looking back over the last decade, like biological evolution, apple creates new species of devices by small changes year after year in their products at a fairly even pace, doing enough to allow the market to support the new features, while apple monitors the results, and allowing the new feature to gain a foothold (if it does).
If one creates a timeline of all the evolutionary and not revolutionary changes apple has put forth (I have not done that formally - there are others more capable than I to do that), it may become obvious. Apple even does the evolutionary thing by allowing useless appendages to wither away, allowing them to put more energy into new features.
The simple iPod evolved year after year a little at a time into apple tv, iPad, iPhone, ipodtouch; iTunes evolved a little at a time from an application on a Mac that supported iPod syncing, to online music purchases, to movies, to books, to apps, then an independent branch to the Mac app store.
Underlying all this is the evolution for apple of different revenue streams, away from being only a hardware manufacturer.
Like biological evolution, new apple species develop slowly, with each developmental cycle, at the "end" only looking back do we see the continuum.
The most recent proof, if you will, of this approach, is the iPad. Yes, the iPad is just a big ipodtouch. But looking back, it's a new species.
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You like to type with big size letters so that you THINK its brilliant but you're not.
You like to type with big size letters so that you THINK your a smart ass.
Okay, I agree with this quote. But if you are calling out someone for being a smartass you need to spell 'you're' correctly
ps. I am now desperately checking my spelling and I bet I've got something wrong!
You do not can get a full web experience on the ipad/iphone. More sites continue to not work properly for me and its annoying.
Yes, as developers move to HTML 5 etc the experience will improve but after 4 generations of iphone and 1 of ipad....welllll little has changed.
100% FUD, and you know it.....its fast but slow? the delay is intentional via software
secondly, i understand your point about weight, but personally i would like to see what apple could come up with if they split their tablet OS away from phone/touch OS. And i think history is a good indicator that no matter what the "spec's, experiance, etc" there is going to buy the next version for reasons they can hardly articulate. The Wii vastly outsold the xbox 360 and the PS3 but as a gamer i have no urge to purchase one. As long as any device does what it wants you to, works for me
it was more to the whining about how all tablets must have copied apple in every facet which is complete BS (on a side note, i am looking at a xoom commercial on this site as i post this reply)
secondly, i understand your point about weight, but personally i would like to see what apple could come up with if they split their tablet OS away from phone/touch OS. And i think history is a good indicator that no matter what the "spec's, experiance, etc" there is going to buy the next version for reasons they can hardly articulate. The Wii vastly outsold the xbox 360 and the PS3 but as a gamer i have no urge to purchase one. As long as any device does what it wants you to, works for me
What does this have to do w/ my comment on plus side the iPad 2's weight loss?
You complained that Apple touting the iPad 2 as lighter was no feature, just "form over function". I commented that weight is part and parcel of a portable devices usefulness, i.e., it's functionality.
But I'll give you another thing the iPad 2 doesn't do that other tablets do... sit unloved on store shelves.
But most people are not hard core gamers just like most drivers are not NASCAR racers. The unified iOS comforts people. People do not want to learn multiple OSes. Apple is creating a platform here.
They are so dumb that they probably have been taking pix with their imacs and were wondering why the got hernias. LOL
Lift with your knees, not your back.
What I find amusing is how many post about lack of features and wanting a full computer experience on a tablet before they buy...but very few of these same people ever purchased any of the previous attempts at full tablet devices. In the past 6-7 years there has been Motion Computing, HP, Fujitsu and more recently Asus. All of those failed with horrible sales and no market penetration. I have the HP TC1100 and outside of The Big Bang Theory (sheldon has one) have never seen one besides my own out in the wild. It has all of the crap people claim to want, usb, expandable memory, sd slot, etc but the problem is that full os's designed for mice and keyboards suck for pen or finger navigation.
The masses which is the market manufacturers are targeting for a very good reason wont stand for a half baked experience, they just want it to work easily and well. So far Apple has been the only one to do that right, Android is getting there, Xoom is a good start but until android experiences are semi-consistent between manufacturers and at least one of them shows a proven track record of support its always going to be playing catch-up.
The masses which is the market manufacturers are targeting for a very good reason wont stand for a half baked experience, they just want it to work easily and well. So far Apple has been the only one to do that right, Android is getting there, Xoom is a good start but until android experiences are semi-consistent between manufacturers and at least one of them shows a proven track record of support its always going to be playing catch-up.
It's good to see that Apple lovers are flocking to overpaid tech bloggers' opinions that support their love affair with the Apple logo.
Walt being the worst of the bunch, but at least he admits that he's an opinionated d0uchebag.
Oh well.
I had cash in hand ready for that new iPad, but I think I'll follow the rest of the modest crowd and wait for a worthy update. I'll take this cash and grab me a new office desk.
Walt being the worst of the bunch, but at least he admits that he's an opinionated d0uchebag.
Oh well.
I had cash in hand ready for that new iPad, but I think I'll follow the rest of the modest crowd and wait for a worthy update. I'll take this cash and grab me a new office desk.
Well, I am not willing to take a big loss on a perfectly good ipad 1 just for a little (and I mean little) less weight.
The improved CPU is a good addition but my ipad 1 plays games and movies just fine so wheres the value add?
I dont really see anything so compelling that I need to have an iPad 2.
Hopefully ipad 3 will bring the following:
Revolutionary changes:
1. Even less weight
2. New battery technology (lighter and more powerful)
3. 4G capability
4. Loose the border space and decrease the form factor (like an endless pool the display goes almost to the edges)
5. Higher resolution display
6. No more home button
7. USB 3 and Thunderbolt
Evolutionary changes:
1. More video memory (1gb)
2. More SSD memory (64/128 gb)
3. Higher resolution front facing camera
4. Flash for back camera
5. Multiple simultaneous Bluetooth devices (most likely an iOS improvement)
The improved CPU is a good addition but my ipad 1 plays games and movies just fine so wheres the value add?
I dont really see anything so compelling that I need to have an iPad 2.
Hopefully ipad 3 will bring the following:
Revolutionary changes:
1. Even less weight
2. New battery technology (lighter and more powerful)
3. 4G capability
4. Loose the border space and decrease the form factor (like an endless pool the display goes almost to the edges)
5. Higher resolution display
6. No more home button
7. USB 3 and Thunderbolt
Evolutionary changes:
1. More video memory (1gb)
2. More SSD memory (64/128 gb)
3. Higher resolution front facing camera
4. Flash for back camera
5. Multiple simultaneous Bluetooth devices (most likely an iOS improvement)
Not if you build the OS and SDK and control how apps use memory. Unlike the "other" phones and tablets, Apple builds hardware to run their software smooth and lag free. You don't need ram if you suspend apps and don't let them run in the background full time. iPad 1 runs smoother with 256megs or ram than any Android device I've used to date, most of them with 1gig.
People keep bitching about spec's and are clueless about how the apps actually work within the OS. Go enjoy a laggy Xoom with 2x the memory.
If your evolutionary theory is right by ipad 25 it should burp and walk and talk
If that's the case, then the rest of the tablet makers should just trash whatever they are building and wait to copy a better mousetrap.
1MP? lol, my first camera-phone had 2MP camera.
That said, for a device such as the iPad, I don't see a camera as being particularly important. And as other posters have said, no-one is complaining about iSight's photo taking abilities, which I imagine are comparable.
And also, having less pixels doesn't necessarily translate to taking poorer quality pictures. I'd hope camera technology has come along a little since 2005.
An HD video video sensor (for 1080P) is 2.1 MP. Any more than that for video is lost. The biggest 70 inch screens only need pixel info for those 2.1 million points. That's all they are trying to do here, as a way of integrating FaceTime and an ability to capture video for that purpose. Anyone who was holding out for an iPad with a 5 to 8 MP camera so they can finally sign up for that photography course at the local community college is (IMO) an (well, I won't resort to name calling). I will laugh myself to death the day I see someone walking around NY, with a lanyard on their iPad, so it can hang from their neck, using it to take pictures of the Empire State Building.
Supporting Flash, and actually having a manufacturer "allow" it on the device is two entirely different things. Moto advertises flash, but no go for now because they know it runs like crap and having it on a review device would embarrass the company and the Xoom into the dusty non-selling history books.
The iPhone came out in 2007, Apple took a stand nearly FOUR YEARS ago and FINALLY Adobe MAY have a mobile version that doesn't bog down and crash devices. That is still to be seen once the Xoom actually can use it. The funny part is even Adobe knows it a junk pc of software when they show "Wallabe" (or whatever it's called) to allow Flash dev's to convert Flash .FLV files into HTML5. They know the end is near and they are preparing for an easy way to convert people over.
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I'm a bit tired of the whole, "I'll just wait for the iPad 3 in September."
That rumor has been debunked.
Steve Jobs: "2011: The year of the iPad 2"
That means the iPad 2. Not the year of the iPad 2 until September when the last quarter becomes year of the iPad 3.
The iPad 3 will not come until 2012.
I'm a bit tired of the whole, "I'll just wait for the iPad 3 in September."
That rumor has been debunked.
Steve Jobs: "2011: The year of the iPad 2"
That means the iPad 2. Not the year of the iPad 2 until September when the last quarter becomes year of the iPad 3.
The iPad 3 will not come until 2012.