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First iPhone 6 and 6 Plus Reviews: 'Thin and Sexy', 'Bigger and Better', Impressive Battery Life Up to 2 Days

Keirasplace said:
Best camera (5s was already the best)
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Not really, seeing the reviews its also barely different from 5s

, top CPU, top GPU
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True

, very different form factor, smallest phone overall size,
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Dont really know what you mean with that last?

There are smaller phones with a simular sized screen out there .


bigger screen, h265 encoding/decoding (a first), better touch ID (something none has even done right in the previous incarnation),
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h265 is already on android just not built in .

I'd bet best color reproduction (waiting for someone to test that), 2 day battery life on the 6+ (same as you Sony), NFC tightly integrated into the ecosystem.
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Actually color reproduction is unknown, 2 day battery life is more speculation from quickly released reviews for the 6+ and not true for the 6 and wasnt nfc only for payments in a limited number of stores?

Wow, that's no difference AT ALL
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Basicly you said 'its bigger and in some cases faster'

So, basically, Sony has waterproofing as its only advantage? I supposed if you work outside, or spend extensive time on the beach (a surfer?) its needed, but otherwise meh.
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Yes you never come near a table with drinks, kitchen or bathroom?
 
I am super heavy user and get about 4.5 hours of usage time throughout my average day. Let's see how long this new one lasts when it arrives in the mail Friday.
 
Keirasplace said:
There is no real reason for web sites to use that much memory. That's the real mystery for me. I've been in computer engineering since the 1980s. Web pages are quite simple programs that often accomplish simple functions. The way they are built, with massive amount of external references makes them much bigger memory hogs than they should be. But, fixing this is not easy as it devellopped organically over 20 years and has much legacy cruft.
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The days of just some text BBS are quite over ;), a picture heavy website can quickly take in a large part of the memory .


Apple can never control this.
 
cdmoore74 said:
I'd rather take 3GB of ram on my 32bit processor than 1GB of ram on your 64bit processor. Apple is playing you guys. In my honest opinion the cpu jump from the A7 to A8 is negligible and it was more about screen size this time around to stop people from jumping to Android. After their pitiful win vs Samsung they had to go big.
Sorry to break it to you but the Note 4 has a metal frame with removable battery door. Pretty sure you can't use the "it's plastic" excuse any more. You can swap the back with leather, metal or snake skin if you wish. They even have a bling back if thats your speed.
Apple has managed to make a phone uglier than the iPhone 5 but Samsung made a phone that looks better with a metal frame. Apple design team dropped the ball on that slippery phone which is larger than any Samsung Note. It even has a smaller screen to boot. The Verge even said that it's best to get a case to hide that mess of lines and to prevent it from slipping out of your hands.
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Thanks for pointing all that out. I didn't realize that I was being played by Apple and that the iPhone 6/6 Plus was so ugly and limited in other ways. It's also good to know that advantages like Apple Pay, a fingerprint sensor that's easy to use, and iOS/OS X Continuity, aren't worth it. I'm going to cancel my iPhone 6 Plus pre-order.
 
fallenjt said:
Ok. Let's get this **** cleared up once for all:
*Note 4 dimensions: 153.5mm x 78.6mm x 8.5mm - 5.7" screen
*iOhone 6+ dimensions: 157.1mm x 77.8mm x 7.1mm - 5.5" screen
The size of these phones is pretty much the same.
0.2" extra diagnostic doesn't look much difference ( LG G3 next to Note 3 comparison).
Stop trolling would you?
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Stop insulting, will you? The fact is the 6+ is bigger than the competition.
 
k995 said:
Not really, seeing the reviews its also barely different from 5s
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Not unless MP is your only gauge of a camera's strength. Are you really reading the reviews?

It is better than the 5s, which was only really beat by in picture quality by the 1020. It has a extremely quick auto focus (probably courtesy of dedicated hardware). The 6+ with OIS; that alone makes a huge difference in any camera.

The form factor is the smallest in volume per screen size than any phone out there (I've made the calculation of all competing phones on AppleInsider I think).

No Android phones have h265 ENCODE (S5 had decode), none, why because it will kill the battery without the dedicated hardware.

Battery life is much much longer than the 5s, that comes out of every single review without fail. For most people, that means they can use much more intensely all day without worrying that it will die by days end. Most people will still charge it again every day regardless.
 
Can't help but think of the HTC One M8 when I see this phone... They look very much alike.

Also 1GB of ram? Sounds like the key ingredient to having your phone lag in 2 weeks just like all the other iPhones
 
Kendo said:
Why would you find a claim unbelievable when you are comparing the battery life of two different phones? Never mind the fact that the claim comes from respected gadget sites?

That's like me saying there is no way in hell that automobile gives you 35 mpg because my car (from a completely different manufacturer) gives me 22 mpg.
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Lets compare iphone to iphone. According to engadget "In our video-playback tests, the 6 lasted 10 hours and 19 minutes; that's actually worse than the 5s results from last year, which managed to go for 10:50. The iPhone 6 Plus, on the other hand, still had 14 percent battery left when the 6 died."

Intesting that there isnt much difference with double the battery size of the 5s. It seems that the screen is a battery hog. Theres so much praised from sites how iOS is optimized. People talk a lot of crap about how androids are battery hungry with its unoptimized software and big screen. Im waiting for anandtech review as they give detailed specs test.
 
k995 said:
The days of just some text BBS are quite over ;), a picture heavy website can quickly take in a large part of the memory .
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I just checked cnn.com, which is a reasonably picture-heavy website, and the size of all related objects is 1.6MB. I am sure there are more "rich" sites, but I would be surprised if they go beyond 3-4MB.

That is why I think it is strange that people think another 1GB is needed to make tabbed browsing work well. I think the necessary memory is available already, I just feel Safari or iOS is not using it well.
 
Keirasplace said:
Right... No one has integrity in the whole world... But you. The argument of every single conspiracy podperson in the whole world.

So, if I find a bad review anywhere in the past; I'm sure there are some, that's because this person suddenly grew balls. Did I get that right?

Good grief!!
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You didnt get it right since you obviously didnt get the point of my post - what i was refering to, is that these reviews are far from being objective.
 
I'm one of those who used to have an iPhone I had the 3gs and 4, then I went to the other side WP and a lot of different androids. Now I am seriously reconsidering going back to the iPhone.
 
Smartass said:
You didnt get it right since you obviously didnt get the point of my post - what i was refering to, is that these reviews are far from being objective.
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I totally disagree with you.

Especially since it makes little sense that they would be more objective for someone like Samsung which gives them much more marketing money and has a massive amount of sales in the US, than for Apple.

I could possibly understand a few being biased, but claiming an overall bias is not a reasonable conclusion from the facts.
 
Walt Mossberg at Re/code and David Pogue is at Yahoo? Man I must have not been paying attention this year. I remember Topolsky going to Bloomberg.

Well, reviews are pretty much what I was expecting - a bigger iPhone. Which is exactly what I want (4.7", of course) I used a Nexus 5 for a while and the screen was just a tad too big, 4.9" I think would be the ideal size for me (And surely would fit in the current iPhone 6 frame as well, but 4.7" will suffice.
 
MentalFloss said:
I just checked cnn.com, which is a reasonably picture-heavy website, and the size of all related objects is 1.6MB. I am sure there are more "rich" sites, but I would be surprised if they go beyond 3-4MB.

That is why I think it is strange that people think another 1GB is needed to make tabbed browsing work well. I think the necessary memory is available already, I just feel Safari or iOS is not using it well.
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Web sites take much more memory than the size of the web page, once the memory structures are created. But, there is no reason why this couldn't be fixed in programming. Software engineers have gotten lazy on the desktop because they had many gb of memory to work with. Browser can be sluggish too on the desktop because of this, which makes little sense.
 
The Verge review was awful.

I want to see a review of the product without some shmuck saying, "I don't like the antenna lines" or "This is late to the game."

These people are so delusional and in their own world, I can't imagine being so self involved and pedantic.
 
Keirasplace said:
Yet, you spent your time typing this on a site were you knew enthousiast are and would read this. Wanted to climb on your moral high horse and inspect the scene?

Seriously, everytime I hear those argument I laugh! YOu can discuss this in the morning and then go spend the rest of the day knee deep in blood fighting ebola.

You think everyone should focused on their life goal of saving the world every single minute of every day. Do you know the lives of everyone you look down on? Mankind of full of little irrational passions, that's what makes us human and not robots.
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I agree. I see uncut video and stories that are happening on a daily basis. Not sure if people want to hear and see mass executions on video, heads getting cut off or bombs killing innocent people. Or the amount of murders, traffic deaths and suicides caught on video. Or a person having their hand cut off for stealing. I've seen so much yet I'm still surprised.
I somewhat agree with the original poster; the US media hides so much information from us and we have the gull to complain about size and how much ram we have in a smart phone. But this is not the place to discuss topics outside of tech.
If I posted the link to the site I go to for what's really going on in the world I would be banned here. But then again many doctors and med students use it for education purposes. You're not going to find that type of bloodshed watching CNN.
 
HiRez said:
Haha, that is the first time I have ever seen anyone write that, anywhere. I actually like the iWork suite better than most people seem to, and the apps are preloaded on the iPhone 6 :)
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It's sad but true. There was a time when I hated what Apple did to the layout, but dumbing it down might have been the best thing they could've done. I can actually work on a doc on the laptop and pick it up on the iPad Mini without a hitch.

It's VERY useable and capable and does everything I need it to do. All apps at that. I teach, so I use Keynote religiously. I freelance, and use Numbers to handle my invoicing and estimates. And Pages is just a no-brainer. I don't know anyone that doesn't need a capable word processor.

I've been able to go into Dropbox and copy and paste videos, graphics, images, images with alpha channels, Illustrator and Photoshop files, etc. from there and just paste them into any of those three apps.

I can do this in Office, and don't mind paying the subscription fee, but . . . . . . . I don't know. I'm just an Apple guy, I love iWork and iTunes. :apple: :cool:
 
ecrispy said:
$199 for an entry level phone, skipping the most popular 32GB model to force people to upgrade to 64GB for an insane markup - is there no end to the greed?

A8 chip is only 20% faster, as opposed to past when Apple usually had a 2x performance increase. Battery life on 6 is worse than 5S. No big improvements in software or UI.

It's still an iPhone, but after all the hype over the last year. how can you not be disappointment this is all we get. There was no thought put in the hardware or software design, it was just one goal - make a bigger phone. Apple's clean design was sacrificed (which is why everyone is criticizing the ugly lines and protruding camera), nothing done to shrink bezels, no software features except the gimmicky one hand mode.
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What are you talking about "insane markup" going from 16GB to 64GB. The 16GB always started at $199 and the 32GB was $299. Now for the same $299 you get 64GB of storage. If anything that is a great deal considering you are getting what used to cost $399 for $100 less.

I completely agree though that the 16GB should not even be offered. The minimum $199 priced phone should have started at 32GB and gone up from there. I have a 16GB iP5 and while I do not fill it up with music, app, movies, etc... I still have to clean it out weekly of pictures and videos of my kids so that I have space available to take more videos and pics of my kids as they play or are in soccer games, etc... This is why I chose to go for the 64GB iP6+ model this year even though it cost me $399 vs the normal $199 that I spend every two years to upgrade. Figure it will well be worth the money for the space, larger screen, bigger battery, better camera (OIS), etc...
 
Dave245 said:
This is what people get confused with and focus too much on, I have had iPhones since the 3GS, and i think they are brilliant. No they don't have every feature under the sun, and no they don't always have the newest technology, but what they do and what they do better than any other compony, is make a brilliant OS and brilliant hardware that works very well together.

About a year ago, i broke with tradition and tried the Samsung Galaxy S4, i lived to regret it sooner than later. While i enjoyed the fact that it had a bigger screen, the OS, it's features and it's technology were far from great. The battery life was terrible, so it's no wonder they go on about having removable battery, because i needed it. It's fancy features such as being able to wave your hand over the screen, were impressive to hear about, but rarely worked, and when they did, they felt out of place and clunky. To cut a long story short, just because Samsung put every feature into every phone, doesn't make it great, in fact far from it.
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Great words!

I agree with everything you said. I tried the GS4 for a couple of months last year as well, going back to even my old iPhone 4S was a relief. I really did like the large screen of the GS4, however.
 
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