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I doubt you care more about excersise than me. And that Someone thinks a barometer is a useless gimmick has nothing to do with how much they care about excercising. Thats just an incredible dumb argument because you cannot defend why its important to you :rolleyes:
Because I'm a bodybuilder and actually use the one in my phone all the time?

I'm going to bet I care more than you do about exercise, in fact. :)

Please try to refrain from using ad hominem in your posts, thanks.
 
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Using up spare parts? I'm going to die laughing. Clearly you know nothing about modern high volume manufacturing.

Apple recognized customer demand for a smaller phone with the latest tech, higher performance, and at a lower price. Apple will sell a ton of these devices as a result. It's a nice complement to their larger devices which sold in record quantities when released.

Not saying that there is no demand for smaller phones. I'm saying that I would have paid a premium for a 4.3" model in a iPhone 6S body with smaller bezels that included every feature that the iPhone 4.7" model has including 3D Touch/vibrator, screen resolution, better front camera and faster Touch ID; AKA a no compromised iPhone. Not a Frankenstein phone using parts from a 5S, 6 and 6S. The damn phone looks exactly like a 5S.
But as it stands the phone is a good deal if you own a iPhone 6 and below. A current generation iPhone 6S owner would be making a mistake.
 
To track flights climbed. I love having this.
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I want a second gen Apple Watch to track my heart rate and pulse.
 
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If the display is same one from the 5 and 5s, doesn't that mean that the 5 and 5s can be updated via software to enable the Retina Flash?
Where's it listed that it's the same screen? The 6s required a chip to momentarily flash the screen correctly.
 
Yeah: this is enough for me to upgrade to my (very old) iPhone 4s.

(Don't judge me; I liked the small screen.)

The SE would be a huge upgrade for you at a very nice price. It's the goofballs that want to go from a 4.7" 6S to a SE that I can't understand. The 6S is definitely a manageable phone for a average to large person. Even smaller women are rocking bigger phones than me and I'm twice their size.
 
The SE would be a huge upgrade for you at a very nice price. It's the goofballs that want to go from a 4.7" 6S to a SE that I can't understand. The 6S is definitely a manageable phone for a average to large person. Even smaller women are rocking bigger phones than me and I'm twice their size.

This is why people are all different. I've heard plenty of people got sick of waiting for a new 4 inch phone so have upgraded but don't like the larger size. My father has had an iPhone 6 for work for about a year now I think and he still dislikes the size, compared to his personal 5. The 6S is not manageable for me, and I'm average. The SE will last as long as the 6S, has the same camera, and better battery life. Things that are missing may not matter to people. Tons of people found the 5S screen perfectly fine, don't take selfies and don't use 3D touch on their iPhones even though they have it.
 
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Where's it listed that it's the same screen? The 6s required a chip to momentarily flash the screen correctly.

Well, not the iPhone 5, but it says in the original post...

While many parts were originally from the iPhone 6 or 6s, the touch screen controller components (Broadcom BCM5976 and Texas Instruments 343S0645) were originally used in the iPhone 5s.
 
It's called lack of innovation or using up spare parts; take your pick.

Real innovation would have been a 4.3" iPhone 6S with smaller bezels that has the same foot print as a iPhone 5S while fixing the camera hump. Here we have Frankenstein iPhone. Your post is the reason why we will have a iPhone 6SS for 2016; people eating what Apple throws in front of them. Not saying that the SE is bad, only saying that Apple lost it's edge. It could have been a better device for around $550.
And you forgot about the environment "report" on the event? Apple could just reuse those components, and reduce the impact of our environment, which in my opinion, way more important than just releasing new stuff every year.
 
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Why are you so certain it is the barometer that provides this information?

A flight of stairs in a commercial modern building is 12 feet. No data that I am aware of, and I have looked for a while, has shown that a barometer can be accurate to such a tiny change in elevation.

Moreover, a barometer would then not be able to tell the difference between you climbing a few sets of stairs, or the weather changing above you head, or the differecne between stairs and an escalator.

No, I am pretty sure the accelerometer is used for counting flights of stairs climbed. The data it outputs can be differentiated between stairs, escalator, and elevator; and it is sensetive enough to detect even millimeters of movement.
Oh, please excuse my dumb ass. I guess the barometer is pretty useless to me than.
 
I think the SE is great, but like I suspected it is NOT a "6S in a 5S body", like many keep claiming. It is a hybrid of 5S, 6, 6S at an attractive price.

More like it's a very affordable 4" 6S with very minor real-world compromises (lack of 3D touch, slightly lower contrast LCD, 1st gen TouchID, 1.2MP selfie cam)

I predict the SE alone is going to easily outsell every Android flagship combined this year thanks to that, no way this isn't going to be a huge hit, especially in poorer regions.
 
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When Apple releases iPhone 10, there will be some SF,SG,SH,SI throwbacks for 6,7,8 and 9:)

Apple is making a statement; new products are not necessarily more expensive
 
It tracks elevation, pretty gimmicky, but it is still something cool to have.
I wish I were lying but I get a real sense of shame when I do not meet my average daily flights and frequently I will remedy it by running up and down the stairs like ten times so yeah it's gimmicky but it does increase my exercise ever so slightly.
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People need a barometer to exercise "seriously"? Hmmmmmmm
It's motivational. Shame will get people's butts off the couch quicker than you think.
 
And there i was thinking a barometer measured atmospheric pressure... the one in my hall must be running up and down the stairs at night when I'm not looking :)
Atmospheric pressure also varies by altitude, hence the barometer being used to measure elevation. That is why apps that measure elevation such as Strava and MapMyRide provide significantly more accurate and consistent altitude charts in iPhones that include the barometer. I have seen a great improvement when upgrading from the 5 to the 6. It's also why you'll find barometers in gps devices made by Garmin and others.
 
Not saying that there is no demand for smaller phones. I'm saying that I would have paid a premium for a 4.3" model in a iPhone 6S body with smaller bezels that included every feature that the iPhone 4.7" model has including 3D Touch/vibrator, screen resolution, better front camera and faster Touch ID; AKA a no compromised iPhone. Not a Frankenstein phone using parts from a 5S, 6 and 6S. The damn phone looks exactly like a 5S.
But as it stands the phone is a good deal if you own a iPhone 6 and below. A current generation iPhone 6S owner would be making a mistake.


A Frankenstein phone? Really... A phone is about how it works, its performance, battery life, and price. As long as that criteria is met nobody cares about whether the parts happened to be used in another phone.

It wasn't redesigned in a new form factor because it's not a flagship phone. That will be the upcoming iPhone 7. The SE is a great deal as it stands assuming you prefer a small phone as many do. Apple is giving their customers choice and that's a good thing. And it will probably be one of Apple's better selling phones.
 
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Reaction when someone else uses old and new tech: They're being lazy recycling old tech.

When Apple uses mix of old and new: I'm gonna queue for Apple's greatest hits album!

Hats off to Apple using excellent components partly I suppose, nontheless.
 
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Reaction when someone else uses old and new tech: They're being lazy recycling old tech.

When Apple uses mix of old and new: I'm gonna queue for Apple's greatest hits album!

Hats off to Apple using excellent components partly I suppose, nontheless.

It's all Apple's fault that there's a market of at least a 30M customers that still wants a 4" iPhone.

Also, let me know when somebody else puts a Snapdragon 820 into a ~4" phone, and if somebody actually bothered, becomes anywhere even a fraction as successful.
 
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Make fun all you want, people that care more about exercise than you do.

If you truly don't understand how a barometer aids in exercise then maybe ... ?

Altimeter vs Barometer! I could vegetate in one place for eight hours and show atmospheric pressure changes that vary with an oncoming or departing storm and show phenomenal stair-climbing exercise logs.

I go by actual steps taken, as a stair-master or climbing up and down a 14-step staircase will not show enough barometric changes to boast climbing a mountain!
 
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