iPod FIRST IPOD NANO FLAW!

[mrgreen4242]

Ok, I love Apple as much as the next member here, but the amazing amount of Apple apologists is more than I would have thought. This product is BRAND NEW. It is entirely possible there is a design flaw, but everyone here immediately wants to blame the user...

There was a comment of the site about tortional force, which I think is dead on. The nano may not have the either required rigidity it keep the LCD screen perfectly straight, or it the needed flexibility to absorb force in other places so the screen doesn't get twisted at all. Putting the nano in your coin pocket or front pocket at certain angles may easily put enough force on the nano to twist it in a way that damages the screen. If that is the case, Apple really should have made the whole thing just slightly thicker and put a stiff plastic coating over the whole front surface. It'd still be amazingly thin.

It's possible that there is a batch of nanos other that the screen is mounted just slightly too close to the casing so when the casing flexes (like it may be designed to in order to absorb force rather than the screen) it hit the screen. So it would be a manufacturing issue, not a design issue.

It's also possible these people all banged up their nano and don't want to admit it, but I'd say that is kind of unlikely due to the cosistant way they are describing (and picturing) the damage.

In any case, I will still blame Apple for releasing a portable electronic device that is at least somewhat fragile (anything with an LCD screen is) and is KNOWN to be prone to scratching (every iPod sans the mini is, and they must know this by now) without any available cases what-so-ever!

I hope that someone like Agent 18 makes a solid, fairly thin/light, clear casing for the nano soon. In the meantime I got a skin for my nano to keep scratching down, and I hope that I don't have any issues with actual damage.

 

[Josh]

It is a flaw, if you consider that it IS possible that thicker, less-bendable glass or plastic DOES exist, and that Apple COULD have used it to protect the screens.

But they didn't.

Something that can be helped, but was not, is indeed a flaw.

Now if no such thing as thicker glass or plastic existed, and there was nothing that could be done, then there would be no flaw. That's not the case though.

 

[dubbz]

HAHAHA!!111! The iPod nano sucks! All you people who bought it are a bunch of suckers!!!111

I'm just jelous because I don't have one myself.... *sniff* :-(

 

[Koodauw]

My screen is nice and sturdy. No flaws here.

 

[Lacero]

Seriously, this thread is trolling. You all are falling for the bait.

 

[dan-o-mac]

Did anyone actually read his claim as to how the screen broke. He said he was just walking and sat down, Come on. I'm all for finding out if the Nano is flawed but this guy seems to be full of ****, he's not telling the whole story. There's no way in hell I could see the screen breaking just from sitting down.

 

[clayj]

Apple: Can we PLEASE have a series of iPods with crystal-protected screens, like the crystals found on high-end watches? I've got a TAG Heuer Kirium that I've worn practically every day for the last 6 and a half years, and its crystal has NOT ONE SCRATCH.

I'd pay extra for a screen if I didn't have to worry about it ever getting scratched.

 

[dan-o-mac]

Apple: Can we PLEASE have a series of iPods with crystal-protected screens, like the crystals found on high-end watches? I've got a TAG Heuer Kirium that I've worn practically every day for the last 6 and a half years, and its crystal has NOT ONE SCRATCH.

I'd pay extra for a screen if I didn't have to worry about it ever getting scratched.

That's great for the screen but what about the rest of the iPod?

 

[nomad01]

That's great for the screen but what about the rest of the iPod?

Yeah! It's not easy to scratch the face of most watches if they're glass as it's more resistant than plastic but even the Kirium attracts it's fair share of scratches on the metal.

The Moto RAZR has a glass outer screen and that seemed pretty scratch resistant so it's be a nice idea.

Until then, check out the Martin Fields Overlay Plus for the nano. It's a thin plastic sheet that covers the front and is crystal clear and scratch resistant. Got one on my nano and you can't tell you've got a cover on.

Of course the back just has to make do with a pda screen protector so that looks less impressive.

 

[maya]

If its a design flaw, then Apple will fix the issue. No one or company can predict or test a product with everyones specifications, thus there is a warranty.

As mentioned the mini had a problem and it was fixed by Apple, etc.

What I dislike is that I find too many people trying to sue another or company trying to compensate for a product they bough. It's not like the company is saying, "he you broke it, so live with it." Apple will fix the most minor issues with the iPod.

I had an issue with my 3G 20GB iPod, it was a defective screen, one call to Apple and within a week it was fixed and back in my hand.

Geeeezz, some people take things to the extreme with lawsuits. And NO Apple will not fix any of they products if its been misused.

By the way, I also hate people who use ALL CAPS in the title and post. notice I am using HATE and not DISLIKE.

 

[minimax]

It's not a design flaw. People, it's THIN - thin is not a flaw. The problem is folks who've owned an iPod in the past will treat the nano the same - and you can't handle the nano like you could the full size iPods. No big stretch in logic there.

I have no doubt the people with 'broken screens' had the nano in their pocket and sat down, or bumped it in another way that caused the screen to crack.

Also - I agree, enough with the all caps titles - sheesh.

Is it so difficult for people to accept Apple does not always make perfect products? If the screen get's damaged by common use (putting it in your pocket is NOT abusing it, it's what it's designed for) it is a design flaw.
This kind of denial is just too silly

 

[orijinal]

Is it so difficult for people to accept Apple does not always make perfect products? If the screen get's damaged by common use (putting it in your pocket is NOT abusing it, it's what it's designed for) it is a design flaw.
This kind of denial is just too silly

this should be happening to everyone then.

 

[devilot]

this should be happening to everyone then.

It could just be related to certain batches...

 

[beatle888]

http://www.flawedmusicplayer.com/

"For those to lazy to read the whole thing: "Take your iPod and press on the screen. Are you touching the LCD? No. Try it with the outside screen on your cell phone. My RAZR and Sidekick II have no problems. But the Nano. Touch it, you will see the slightest pressure on the plastic protection actually flexes and allows you to touch the screen. This is the first thing Apple should have noticed. They are selling the Nano over the Shuffle why? Because it has a screen. Why aren't they concerned about the protection of that screen? Is Apple forgetting they are a company of quality and bowing down to capitalism and trying to make as much money as they can? I certainly hope not."

Anyone been through the same? The guy apparently gets a lot of support and a LOT of flame mails.

drama queen

 

[whooleytoo]

I was quite surprised when I saw Steve pull it from his key/change pocket. When you sit, that pocket effectively is 'folded', if the iPod isn't strong enough, it'll crack/distort, if if *is* strong enough, it'll be quite awkward to sit down with one in that pocket.

 

[mandis]

Did anyone actually read his claim as to how the screen broke. He said he was just walking and sat down, Come on. I'm all for finding out if the Nano is flawed but this guy seems to be full of ****, he's not telling the whole story. There's no way in hell I could see the screen breaking just from sitting down.

Just another twt trying to bash Apple IMHO. Excuse my language, but after seeing the Arstechnica review, I have little doubt that the nano is in fact a very sturdy device. I just hate people who try to slash a company’s reputation by devising fake flaws and spreading misinformation. It is an act both hideous and immoral.

A friend sent me this video a few days ago. Just another example of a bunch of twts with nothing better to do with their lives than bashing Apple… http://homepage.ntlworld.com/m.markantonakis/1.wmv

 

[AP_piano295]

This rash of all-cap titles in the last few days is beginning to wear on me.

Instant banishment, I say.

I really hate people like you who need to freak out about these stupid little things that dont matter.

 

[AP_piano295]

Just another twt trying to bash Apple IMHO. Excuse my language, but after seeing the Arstechnica review, I have little doubt that the nano is in fact a very sturdy device. I just hate people who try to slash a company’s reputation by devising fake flaws and spreading misinformation. It is an act both hideous and immoral.

A friend sent me this video a few days ago. Just another example of a bunch of twts with nothing better to do with their lives than bashing Apple… http://homepage.ntlworld.com/m.markantonakis/1.wmv

and what about you, youve got nothing better to do than mindlessly support apple while you have no actual knowledge as to the falseity or truth of the statement.

 

[mandis]

and what about you, youve got nothing better to do than mindlessly support apple while you have no actual knowledge as to the falseity or truth of the statement.

What about me?
I have every right to express my opinion concerning a product that i own and use daily and this forum is one of the places to do it.

If you have any problems with that then you don't belong here.

 

[minimax]

What about me?
I have every right to express my opinion concerning a product that i own and use daily and this forum is one of the places to do it.

If you have any problems with that then you don't belong here.

You are not the only one around here that is entitled to his own opinion.
So you are upset someone dismisses your opinion the way you dismissed the opinion of TOP? Grow up.

 

[minimax]

this should be happening to everyone then.

Ever heard of tolerances? As much as I admire Jonathan Ive but making the nano with the smallest tolerances ever before you risk crossing the red line more often then you wish. Small tolerances if executed well need not be a problem but you run the risk of higher failure rates when this is not the case. It might be a problem with the production or it might be a structural design flaw. Either way you should think for a moment before you post. It's not rocket science.

 

[dan-o-mac]

It might be a problem with the production or it might be a structural design flaw. Either way you should think for a moment before you post. It's not rocket science.

Or this guy could be full of $h!t?

 

[beatle888]

and what about you, youve got nothing better to do than mindlessly support apple while you have no actual knowledge as to the falseity or truth of the statement.

well he wasnt mindlessly supporting apple. he pointed to a review of the nano which got excellent points on durability. they even ran it over with a car. i think that review is telling of how well the nano is made.

 

[matticus008]

I was quite surprised when I saw Steve pull it from his key/change pocket. When you sit, that pocket effectively is 'folded', if the iPod isn't strong enough, it'll crack/distort, if if *is* strong enough, it'll be quite awkward to sit down with one in that pocket.

I suppose that depends on the size of your waist. Since that pocket is below the hip bone and waistline, it should be fine for most people of slim-to-average build (I haven't studied the dynamics on larger people because I have only myself to test). I keep USB flash drives (and sometimes credit cards) in them all the time and have never had one break or bend or experience any other strong torque.

Try it out with one of those fake credit cards you get in pre-approval offers or an old gift card or something. You might have to trim it if your pants have a narrow pocket. You might find that the card maintains its shape better than you'd expect, because it rests fairly flat on the outer hip/thigh.

Of course, this is all overthinking, because that pocket was used just for effect, really. But Steve had it in his pocket the entire time, even while sitting, at the intro, all without incident.

 

[mandis]

You are not the only one around here that is entitled to his own opinion.
So you are upset someone dismisses your opinion the way you dismissed the opinion of TOP? Grow up.

I never even implied that! Of course everyone has the right to their own opinion and that is exactly what i said before. If you don't understand what other people are writing then don't jump into conclusions. There is absolutely no reason to be neither mean nor rude now is there?