iPod FIRST IPOD NANO FLAW!

[40167]

It is a flaw, if you consider that it IS possible that thicker, less-bendable glass or plastic DOES exist, and that Apple COULD have used it to protect the screens.

But they didn't.

Something that can be helped, but was not, is indeed a flaw.

Now if no such thing as thicker glass or plastic existed, and there was nothing that could be done, then there would be no flaw. That's not the case though.

Ah yes... so Apple should have used a 2inch thick bullet proof layer right? Then when I break that when shooting it with a canon; it's Apple's fault because they didn't go with 4inch thick bullet proof layer.

If your logic worked at all... then every notebook manufactor on earth (including Apple) would have been sued by now for not protecting their lcd screens as good as they could have... They can always do better; but comon... theres a limit.

Edit: Oh yeah, and to barbee... Your sig is a bit off as there's a small problem; even though I love to bash Microsoft as much as the next guy, possibly even more, bill gates never actualy said that. Bashing is really only fun when its true. (and its supposed to be 640k if you want the joke to be correct) - If you search around, you'll find plenty of interviews where they ask him or people he know if it was said and if your really interested you can pm me and i'll go ahead and find the keynote where he stood on stage, somewhat pissed off, while clarifying that it was never stated.

 

[840quadra]

The nano is a small electronic device. If you expect it to be bullet proof at this price point, then you need your head examined.

It isn't as fragile as a crystal vase, but it still needs to be handled with "Some" care and reserve. I have dropped my nano a couple of times on hard surfaces and see no damage to it, and the screen is still bright and clear.

I am not really able to flex the screen much when pushing on it with moderate pressure, if I get "hyper exotic" and mash on it, yeah I can touch the screen. Am I worried? Not really as the amount of pressure that is needed to do this (for mine) is noticeable, and I tend to keep the nano in pockets that contain nothing more then my wallet anyway. So far it is really a tough little device, and works great for long rides, and doesn’t have issues during rough use (so far).

840

 

[iSaint]

http://www.flawedmusicplayer.com/

"For those to lazy to read the whole thing: "Take your iPod and press on the screen. Are you touching the LCD? No. Try it with the outside screen on your cell phone. My RAZR and Sidekick II have no problems. But the Nano. Touch it, you will see the slightest pressure on the plastic protection actually flexes and allows you to touch the screen. This is the first thing Apple should have noticed. They are selling the Nano over the Shuffle why? Because it has a screen. Why aren't they concerned about the protection of that screen? Is Apple forgetting they are a company of quality and bowing down to capitalism and trying to make as much money as they can? I certainly hope not."

Anyone been through the same? The guy apparently gets a lot of support and a LOT of flame mails.

Is it just me or has this link been taken down???

 

[eva01]

hahahahah that is awesome it is gone

 

[mrgreen4242]

Ah yes... so Apple should have used a 2inch thick bullet proof layer right? Then when I break that when shooting it with a canon; it's Apple's fault because they didn't go with 4inch thick bullet proof layer.

If your logic worked at all... then every notebook manufactor on earth (including Apple) would have been sued by now for not protecting their lcd screens as good as they could have... They can always do better; but comon... theres a limit.

Edit: Oh yeah, and to barbee... Your sig is a bit off as there's a small problem; even though I love to bash Microsoft as much as the next guy, possibly even more, bill gates never actualy said that. Bashing is really only fun when its true. (and its supposed to be 640k if you want the joke to be correct) - If you search around, you'll find plenty of interviews where they ask him or people he know if it was said and if your really interested you can pm me and i'll go ahead and find the keynote where he stood on stage, somewhat pissed off, while clarifying that it was never stated.

Not to mention that the (mis)quote is 640k of memory, not disk space.

 

[beatle888]

http://www.flawedmusicplayer.com/

"For those to lazy to read the whole thing: "Take your iPod and press on the screen. Are you touching the LCD? No. Try it with the outside screen on your cell phone. My RAZR and Sidekick II have no problems. But the Nano. Touch it, you will see the slightest pressure on the plastic protection actually flexes and allows you to touch the screen. This is the first thing Apple should have noticed. They are selling the Nano over the Shuffle why? Because it has a screen. Why aren't they concerned about the protection of that screen? Is Apple forgetting they are a company of quality and bowing down to capitalism and trying to make as much money as they can? I certainly hope not."

Anyone been through the same? The guy apparently gets a lot of support and a LOT of flame mails.

from the ars technica review

"Pros:
Very light and tiny, sits very easily in hand and pocket
Extremely durable
Cool new nano-only features (screen lock, world clock, stop watch)
US$200 for 2GB iPod with a color screen and all the bells and whistles is a good deal compared to US$130 1GB iPod shuffle.
Great battery life (14hrs)
Charges over USB
Cons:
Tiny screen means it's hard to enjoy looking at photos
Smaller storage capacities than the iPod mini it replaced
Transfer over Firewire not allowed—USB only
Dock adapter documentation
No AV output
No remote
Incompatible with mini and normal iPod accessories that require the remote connector.
Battery is soldered in"

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/nano.ars

direct link to the "stress testing" part of the review
http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/nano.ars/3

Excerpts from the "stress testing" part of the review
To simulate everyday accidents that could result in a broken iPod, we came up with a few situations that we felt would ultimately leave the nano lifeless:

Sitting on the iPod nano
Dropping it while jogging (4-6mph),
Dropping at various speeds: 8-10mph (slow bicycle), 15-20mph (fast bicycle), 30mph (slow car), and 50mph (fast car)
Dropping the nano from various heights..............
.............Because of the distinct lack of expected damage from the first two car drops, we sped up to 50mph and launched the nano on an impressive slide and tumble that, again, really only scratched the surface:

End of QUOTE.




you'll notice that it took some really ape like behavior to bust the screen so unless you plan on getting it on like an orangutan with your nano i wouldnt worry about it.

 

[Chip NoVaMac]

Maybe there's a dodgy batch of nanos out there. I pressed pretty hard and there was no evidence of any pressure on the LCD.

Same here. I have little worry that my nano won't hold up with time. Other than the "scratching" issue. But those are badges of honor for good use for me.

 

[beatle888]

Same here. I have little worry that my nano won't hold up with time. Other than the "scratching" issue. But those are badges of honor for good use for me.

i was going to get a white nano because of the way it hides scratches until i saw this......

http://www.noscratch.com/novus/

 

[dan-o-mac]

Is it just me or has this link been taken down???

The link still works for me.

 

[maya]

The link still works for me.

Same here.


Geez people are complaining about the Nano's screen. If you apply enough pressure to anything it will break.

If you notice why the headphone jack is on the bottom of the Nano, its because it slides upside down in your pocket, so that you are not placing pressure on the screen. I believe tests have been done on it to say that its durable.

 

[AP_piano295]

What about me?
I have every right to express my opinion concerning a product that i own and use daily and this forum is one of the places to do it.

If you have any problems with that then you don't belong here.

yes you do but your opinion is entirely biased and unfair so I have every right to disagree with it just because your nano works fine doesnt mean that there isnt a bad batch out their with a screen problem. I find that your immiediate assumption that people who have a problem with an apple product are attempting slanders apple's name stupid and immature.

apple can make mistakes just like every other company and they deserve to be called on their mistakes.

 

[AP_piano295]

Just another twt trying to bash Apple IMHO. Excuse my language, but after seeing the Arstechnica review, I have little doubt that the nano is in fact a very sturdy device. I just hate people who try to slash a company’s reputation by devising fake flaws and spreading misinformation. It is an act both hideous and immoral.

A friend sent me this video a few days ago. Just another example of a bunch of twts with nothing better to do with their lives than bashing Apple… http://homepage.ntlworld.com/m.markantonakis/1.wmv

PS that video is very funny even if I dont agree with it

 

[Chappers]

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/ipodspoof.html

hopefully newer

 

[chaos86]

... dont poke the screen

 

[840quadra]

from the ars technica review

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/nano.ars

you'll notice that it took some really ape like behavior to bust the screen so unless you plan on getting it on like an orangutan with your nano i wouldnt worry about it.

Besides the fact that your linking the Ars Technica review was redundant (it was linked to in the first reply), I love the comment you made. However from the nano surviving a Volkswagen Passat running it over, you must have some majority love sick orangutans in your area to destroy a nano!

840

 

[Bern]

This goes into the same category as if you shove a cotton tip too far into your ear canal and puncture your ear drum then the manufacturer is responsible for it.

I guess these people drive nails into their tyres so they can claim them to be flawed as well.

 

[Chip NoVaMac]

PS that video is very funny even if I dont agree with it

I have seen this before too.

Perhaps he is happier with the "Blue Screen" of death. Or maybe having to deal with with DLL's. I have found that if I leave my Mac alone, it is very happy. Only when did I try to treat it a WinBox, then did I have problems.

 

[iKatelyne Anne]

Speaking of which . . .

I've already dropped an iron on mine.

 

[erickkoch]

Flawed

 

[dan-o-mac]

Flawed

Not quite it's just has another link to the original thread starters site. and another user saying his screen is scratched just from keeping it in his pocket. I'm having a hard time believing these guys, seeing that I do the same and have no problem with mine. Anyone else have scratches on the screen just from keeping the nano and the nano alone in your pocket?

 

[beatle888]

Besides the fact that your linking the Ars Technica review was redundant (it was linked to in the first reply), I love the comment you made. However from the nano surviving a Volkswagen Passat running it over, you must have some majority love sick orangutans in your area to destroy a nano!

840

sometimes things are worth repeating.

 

[beatle888]

... dont poke the screen

seriously this thread is a waist of time. talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill. wasnt the arstechnica interview comforting at all? i would of thought that would put this issue to rest.

oh the drama. press really hard on the iPod nano screen and it will break. BAD APPLE.

 

[AP_piano295]

I have seen this before too.

Perhaps he is happier with the "Blue Screen" of death. Or maybe having to deal with with DLL's. I have found that if I leave my Mac alone, it is very happy. Only when did I try to treat it a WinBox, then did I have problems.

I wonder if kicking the imac g3 hurt

 

[Jack A]

Something is fishy here.

Wow, something is weird here. Check out this email and response from the site:

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"Your comment that Steve took a the iPod Nano from his pocket is
wrong. He did not pull it out from his pocket, I know because I was
there.

RESPONSE: Well I was not there, my comment comes from other respected news source articles. Anyway I just got done watching the hour long presentation (So nice of Yo Yo Ma and Madonna to appear) and I never saw him holding the Nano. Funny though because the picture advertising the Quicktime moving of him introducing it shows him holding it, and it appears to be a shot from the presentation. Anyway, him pulling it out of his pocket would have been nice to see in the video, but he constantly referred to “in your pocket” and then when he said “it weighs less than 8 quarters in your pocket” I think it is safe to make the assumption he is talking pants and not shirt. Who puts change in their shirt pocket? Whether or not he pulled it out of his pocket at the presentation, he still talked about it enough. Thanks for the clarification as I with most of the world was not able to attend."
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What is this? An alternate universe????? This guy claims to have watched the hour long presentation and "never saw him holding the Nano."????? Steve DID pull the nano out of his pocket AND he was holding it and waving it around a lot:

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/specialevent05/

The relevant section starts around 00:38:00

Whether the iPod nano screen is prone to scratching or breakage or not issue aside, this guys credibility just took a nose dive in my book.

The obvious mistake/lie that I pointed out above really doesn't make sense at all tho because not only does it lower his credibility, the actuality, that Steve DID take it out of his pocket, strengthens his cause. One possible explanation I can thinks of for doing this is that this guy is waging a FUD campaign and doesn't care about the reality and got sloppy.

I don't know if it will help with putting the nano in a pocket where it will get bend stressing but this plastic shield seems like it is a great fix for scratching:

http://www.theinvisibleshield.com/ipod_screen_protectors.html
Watch the demo video, it is pretty impressive.

I hope to get an iPod nano soon (maybe Christmas if I can wait that long) and will at least get a case and maybe the shield above too if I plan on carrying it around not in the case - it is so beautiful it seems a shame to put it in a case. But I will NOT be putting it in a pocket - or at least not a pocket that will stress it and it can get bent and broken. Because lets get real, no way the damaged ones shown on that site got that way without stress being put on them. The real question I guess is how much stress. I hope someone does some testing on this soon ala Ars Technica and puts these rumors to rest.

That all said, because of the bad publicity campaign that seems to be going on, I would not be at all surprised if Apple somehow toughens the nano in future versions by using different materials. They might do this quietly rather than overtly though - in America, where suing is the national sport, it doesn't pay to open yourself up to lawsuits.

 

[Sun Baked]

I really hate people like you who need to freak out about these stupid little things that dont matter.

It is all about MR forum etiquette, and not being an annoying weenie and/or forum hemorrhoid.

So it does matter, and keeps the site from looking like a highly annoying fanboy site where you actually have to hunt for people's posts hiding beneath all those gifs and flashing text burning your eyeballs.