First M2 MacBook Pro Orders Arriving to Customers in New Zealand and Australia

[uczcret]

This is probably one of the saddest launches ever. It has to be.

Is it though? MBPs used to get yearly CPU upgrades and it was never a big publicity event, they were just made available on the e-store and perhaps a press release would go out. But now with the constant articles, YouTube reviews and general brouhaha, what is essentially a minor spec upgrade, Apple's marketing and the media have made it out to be something bigger when it's clearly not.

 

[femike]

The fact that there is no notch is the only thing going for it.
And the touch bar for some maybe. A big shame, as I think a touch bar done right would of been a hit, but was done poorly.

 

[djcerla]

I was hoping the M2 would be as big of leap from the M1 as the M1 was from Intel chips. 20% isn't enough to justify the cost.

Justify the cost for whom? M1 owners, nope, and that’s fine. All others, oh yeah, that’s a very nice upgrade over an impressive leap.

 

[StoneJack]

Well, Pro 13 exists because in car world, you can have different models with different design, some models have full model change, some undergo facelifting and some just update innards (like Toyota 4Runner) with a trusted design. This update is more of innard update with new engine without facelifting, which in car world, however, accounts for a very big change (engine upgrade). So I perfectly fine with the new Pro 13, probably a second best selling Mac notebook after air. It is reasonable priced, has new M2 CPU and upgraded GPU, so why not.

 

[subjonas]

I was hoping the M2 would be as big of leap from the M1 as the M1 was from Intel chips.

This is crazy unrealistic. M1 was a revolution, and revolutions are rare. From here on out, expect each generation of M to be iterative, just like other chips.

 

[DMG35]

Honestly, some people just need a new laptop and don't care if its super thin and light. This new MBP is a great laptop that is going to serve a lot of people very well.

 

[MandiMac]

I was hoping the M2 would be as big of leap from the M1 as the M1 was from Intel chips. 20% isn't enough to justify the cost.

When was the last time you got 20 % more performance from an Intel machine from one year to the next?

 

[Denzo]

They should get them first. MAN. everything is so expensive over there.

Cant buy a house in Australia for anything less than half a million dollars. most likely more than that.

$1,000,000 for below average areas. $2,000,000 for a decent commute to work that’s less than an hour. Literally don’t know where you can find $500k house. An apartment is like $700k-$1m for an average 1-2 bed.

 

[everlast3434]

This is like the least exciting Apple launch of all time lol

 

[Mac Fly (film)]

That's a negative.

It exists because Apple has officially become that which it most previously despised -- banking on incremental improvements to established hardware.

None of the iPhone, Watch, or iPhone upgrades have been revolutionary or exceptional, just marginally better than the last one. 15% of this, and 10% better at that. A software improvement or three. Whee.

The reality is that Apple is just doing what all other hardware vendors do: hype up the new and devalue the old. This computer should exist because its processing power is marginal when compared to other platforms and it needs market relevance. Just like all the other vendors. This is the hardware Circle of Life.

I don't want to say it's bad, but if you're entrenched in Apple hardware you can pretty much guarantee that every few years you can just replace your old item with a new item that has more compute/storage/etc and software that is pretty much just the same as you've seen. This makes this hardware a necessary element for those with 3 year old hardware, just looking for an upgrade.

Rest my case. M2 MBP should not exist.

 

[2ilent8cho]

I think it’s for corporate sales. The company I work for is very large and buys these things by the truckload. I have one in my backpack, it’s great. They have never issued Airs at work for some reason. I don’t even mind the touch bar but personally for myself I’d buy the Air or 14 Pro.

We buy them as our main MacBook at our company, the extra battery life over the M1 Air was the main reason.

 

[Kdvl7]

Very likely the last MacBook from the Jonathan Ive's era!

The M2 MacBook Pro is undoubtedly a great choice for those who absolutely want to use the TouchBar as well as a notebook much more affordable than the 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro. But it remains utterly hindered by its poor connectivity (especially within the MacBook Pro line) and a less advanced display.

Certainly the last stand of this iconic computer.

 

[Steve121178]

Why would you ever order this machine on day 1? The M2 MBA is a much better value, or even the M1 Pro base config 14-inch MacBook Pro....

Please explain what is so compelling about this product, other than the fact that it includes the M2 chip and can be shipped sooner than the M2 MBA.

Thanks,

Sustained performance.

The mic setup is also more advanced on the Pro compared to the Air.

"Studio-quality three-mic array with high signal-to-noise ratio and directional beamforming"

Battery life. TCO. Etc.

The 13" MBP is the machine of choice for many businesses and enterprises that deploy Macs.

 

[DMG35]

I was hoping the M2 would be as big of leap from the M1 as the M1 was from Intel chips. 20% isn't enough to justify the cost.

Lol do people seriously upgrade laptops every time Apple comes out with a new one? Its impossible year over year to make “big leaps” like they did from intel to M1. You are meant to keep your laptop for several years, not upgrade every time Apple updates a chip in their new one.

 

[Steve121178]

Lol do people seriously upgrade laptops every time Apple comes out with a new one? Its impossible year over year to make “big leaps” like they did from intel to M1. You are meant to keep your laptop for several years, not upgrade every time Apple updates a chip in their new one.

I think a lot of people try to justify to themselves why they don't need to upgrade to the latest and greatest shiny new toys which is why they come out with ridiculous comments like he did.

 

[Kdvl7]

Lol do people seriously upgrade laptops every time Apple comes out with a new one? Its impossible year over year to make “big leaps” like they did from intel to M1. You are meant to keep your laptop for several years, not upgrade every time Apple updates a chip in their new one.

This is pure marketing and Apple is undoubtedly the best at it. Their products are visually so gorgeous, their ads so well made that many users feel the need to "upgrade" their iPhone or Mac every time a new model is launched. But I totally agree with your comment; not to mention that as time goes on, Apple laptops become even better and technically durable (particularly with their powerful chips). Right now, I hardly imagine dropping my 16-inch MacBook Pro before at least 2030...

 

[Shirasaki]

$1,000,000 for below average areas. $2,000,000 for a decent commute to work that’s less than an hour. Literally don’t know where you can find $500k house. An apartment is like $700k-$1m for an average 1-2 bed.

Well, apparently if you live far away from Great Sydney area enough there are some houses that are way below $200k but one would either embrace 100% remote work or happy with 4+ hour commute.

 

[BlairMALL]

Why would you ever order this machine on day 1? The M2 MBA is a much better value, or even the M1 Pro base config 14-inch MacBook Pro....

Please explain what is so compelling about this product, other than the fact that it includes the M2 chip and can be shipped sooner than the M2 MBA.

Thanks,

I think you just answered your own question.

Sometimes, the purchase decision doesn't have to be "so compelling" at least not to people other than the purchaser. You may not agree with or prioritize the same way, but the arguments for this machine have been stated many times.

I am curious about how those folks who have received the new machines like them.

 

[svish]

Don’t know why anyone should be getting this MacBook Pro. Looks like there is no high demand as expected!

 

[fooobar]

Don’t know why anyone should be getting this MacBook Pro. Looks like there is no high demand as expected!

comments like these are very strange, since Apple wouldn't continue making these if there was no demand (didn't they say something about how the 13" MBP is the 2nd best selling laptop out there?).

so just 'cuz you may not find them appealing doesn't mean that others won't... 🤷‍♂️

 

[apparatchik]

Sturdier than MacBook Air? Who told you that?

I second this, I have owned around 4-5 MBA’s throughout my life, they’re indestructible, I just remember one in particular jumping up and down inside my backup in the back of a pickup truck on a dusty road going out of a hidden beach spot in Mexico’s Pacific, other one falling from a high standing desk in a party, another flying out the window by an ex-gf, my twenties memories are filled with MBA’s making it more or less intact afterwards. And those had fans.

The fanless MBA has to be one of the sturdiest consumer computers ever made.

 

[Onelifenofear]

I would argue that the TouchBar is a negative - it has its own firmware that can get bricked during a software update and the only recourse is to ship it to Apple, which will then replace the entire motherboard.

An entire motherboard replacement, just because the Touchbar firmware corrupted itself during a software update (the Touchbar firmware is called iBridge).

You won't have the same reliability problems with the other Apple laptop designs because they include a function row and no additional firmware.

That was fixed a while ago. The Firmware upgrade is done independently of an update. Also has a failsafe now I believe and if it happens Genius Bar can fix inshore.

 

[Karma*Police]

That's a negative.

It exists because Apple has officially become that which it most previously despised -- banking on incremental improvements to established hardware.

None of the iPhone, Watch, or iPhone upgrades have been revolutionary or exceptional, just marginally better than the last one. 15% of this, and 10% better at that. A software improvement or three. Whee.

The reality is that Apple is just doing what all other hardware vendors do: hype up the new and devalue the old. This computer should exist because its processing power is marginal when compared to other platforms and it needs market relevance. Just like all the other vendors. This is the hardware Circle of Life.

I don't want to say it's bad, but if you're entrenched in Apple hardware you can pretty much guarantee that every few years you can just replace your old item with a new item that has more compute/storage/etc and software that is pretty much just the same as you've seen. This makes this hardware a necessary element for those with 3 year old hardware, just looking for an upgrade.

At the rate they’re “innovating,” more like 5-7 yr upgrade cycle for most folks.

 

[Onelifenofear]

The Touch Bar rocks for those that use it properly - I do agree you need a better touch app to customise it.

F Keys are so 1970s...in a lot of way the standard keyboard layout is outdated, but they could have integrated both I am sure.

What would have been better is a row of OLED or e-Ink that coudl adapt to what ever you are doing. they coudl have even be touch sensitive so you coudl wipe / fade swipe across all of them.

 

[jav6454]

Don’t know why anyone should be getting this MacBook Pro. Looks like there is no high demand as expected!

Goes to show how people just parrot other's points. Apple has said it sells #2 in their lineup.