First Mac Pro Review Units Out in the Wild

[Jynto]

Kudos to you or to whoever took the time to build the gif as I immediately thought of that meme when I saw the video.

That post made my day, thanks for posting.

I was the one who suggested it in the Youtube comment thread. But it was commenter Jelle de Vries who actually made it. I do prefer the speeded up version, which I made.

 

[thekev]

I was the one who suggested it in the Youtube comment thread. But it was commenter Jelle de Vries who actually made it. I do prefer the speeded up version, which I made.

That is just so silly. Also where are the comments requesting a matte mac pro as opposed to one that redirects glare onto your nearby displays?

 

[blackhand1001]

There are no i7 8-12 core chips. You want Apple to build two motherboards, one for Xeons and one for 4 core i7 just for a single config?

Dell, HP have no problem doing this. I would rather apple give us a more standard form factor. This trash can form factor provides no real benefit but it certainly is filled with tradeoffs.

 

[0x0x0x0]

The idea of this Mac Pro seems to be that you would pair it with an external RAID or SSD for large edit projects. The computer itself has been refined to offer the best possible performance in CPU and GPU power, without all the heating, electricity requirements and bulk of the typical desktop. A PCIe drive and Thunderbolt 2 ports make this possible in a small package that is unobtrusive and quiet.

That's exactly the point, but my reply was to an assertion that the PCIe SSD is the dog's bo***cks that the "pros" need...

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There are no i7 8-12 core chips. You want Apple to build two motherboards, one for Xeons and one for 4 core i7 just for a single config?

I've replaced i3s with Xeons in a number of HP boxes (it is an HP supported upgrade path) without a single issue, so not exactly sure why Apple can't do what others are already doing...

 

[MacDav]

I'm not saying Europeans have something in common but if you live on the continent that is known as Europe then you are European. You're confusing this with the European Union.

And besides the language have so much in common either. Due to the two-party political system, the US is so divided that it's not a true union either. The bigger the country/union, the more opinions, mindsets, ideologies you are going to have. This makes governing difficult and political differences are guaranteed. But the economic gains from the Euro has been tremendous. The media always talks about Greece, Spain, Ireland etc. But if you look at the rest of the northern countries and countries like Germany and Austria economic gains are evident. The European Union is not necessarily a bad thing, it's just that some people had the wrong expectations. If you think the Euro is an illusion then you need to watch something besides Fox News. The fact of the matter is that the Euro is currently the world's largest currency in terms of circulation. There are more Euros in circulation than US dollars. The trend is continuing this way and with China and the Arabian peninsula investing more and more in Europe, they will have more Euros and will ultimately help in establishing the Euro as the world currency. You probably won't believe me, but take a look at this post in 10-15 years and you'll see.

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It's just ironic how the world's most famous/biggest/important scientific companies are based in the US and they of course use the metric system. I'm not saying that the US system is horrible or anything like that. But there comes a point where one has to realize that a better alternative exists that the rest of the world is using.

Now from a practical perspective, the US system is horrendous. That's why Bio/Chem/Physics/Math/Engineering all use Metric.

Yes, I agree it's outrageous that U.S has not converted to metric at this late stage of the game. As far as the Euro becoming the worlds default currency in 10-15 years...Well, it is possible but not probable. Also, you seem to think I am a Republican who is a fan of Fox News. Sorry to disappoint you ,but I am an Indepenant and not Republican or Democrat. The funny thing about Europe is that if there is a common language it would be English. The U.S. may be divided politically, but we have one common language. Language is Europes weakest link.

 

[flat five]

Due to the two-party political system, the US is so divided that it's not a true union either.

that's just a trick.
do you really think there's any difference between the two parties?

it's mostly stuff like "i'm against abortion and they aren't"
so the rest of the country sits around and argues about what the two parties have shown them to argue about for the next 4 years.. good way for us to occupy our time instead of paying attention to what's really going on.. good way for us to hate our neighbors too.. race, religion, gun rights, health care, sexual orientation, & abortion..

they don't give a crap about any of that stuff irl.. but the general public sure as hell thinks it must be important.. meanwhile- the two (one) parties are just sitting back clocking them dollar$$$ at our expense..




it's cool though.. they rest of the world is getting their dosage of it now.

 

[Sol]

that's just a trick.
do you really think there's any difference between the two parties?

it's mostly stuff like "i'm against abortion and they aren't"
so the rest of the country sits around and argues about what the two parties have shown them to argue about for the next 4 years.. good way for us to occupy our time instead of paying attention to what's really going on.. good way for us to hate our neighbors too.. race, religion, gun rights, health care, sexual orientation, & abortion..

they don't give a crap about any of that stuff irl.. but the general public sure as hell thinks it must be important.. meanwhile- the two (one) parties are just sitting back clocking them dollar$$$ at our expense..




it's cool though.. they rest of the world is getting their dosage of it now.

This is a forum thread about Mac Pros.

 

[flat five]

This is a forum thread about Mac Pros.

hmm. i thought it was about decimal points and commas

 

[Gudi]

Apple created the first wearable desktop computer?

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Since you could show examples of prior art, no they didn't. Apple just improved upon the existing concepts of wearable desktop computer hats. Making them more fashionable for a wider variety of people. Still innovation! It isn't easy to make some big black thing above your head look any good.

 

[Gudi]

I'm 'European' and I write it 1,092.1
Never come across 1.092,2 notation before.

Are you sure to be European?

On which side of the street do you drive? Because here in Europe we drive on the right side.

 

[kolax]

Are you sure to be European?

On which side of the street do you drive? Because here in Europe we drive on the right side.

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Not all places in Europe drive on the right side..

I see the point that the UK uses a different numerical system to most of Europe.

 

[osx11]

that's just a trick.
do you really think there's any difference between the two parties?

it's mostly stuff like "i'm against abortion and they aren't"
so the rest of the country sits around and argues about what the two parties have shown them to argue about for the next 4 years.. good way for us to occupy our time instead of paying attention to what's really going on.. good way for us to hate our neighbors too.. race, religion, gun rights, health care, sexual orientation, & abortion..

they don't give a crap about any of that stuff irl.. but the general public sure as hell thinks it must be important.. meanwhile- the two (one) parties are just sitting back clocking them dollar$$$ at our expense..




it's cool though.. they rest of the world is getting their dosage of it now.

The two major American parties couldn't be more different. There are clear ideological differences at the core of their ideals. I'm not going to argue one party is better than the other, but one party wants as little government as possible the other party thinks government can help society. There are valid arguments for both parties. But as a voter, you should at least decide if you want less government or more. This is a try difference and it is an important foundation for the two parties' platforms. But I mean overall, you're right in that it doesn't really matter who you vote for because nothing gets done anyway and lobbyists actually decide what gets done.

 

[0x0x0x0]

I'm not so delusional as to consider the design team had me in mind when they came up with this stuff, but FWIW I have a use case where I do care.

There are a couple of Windows-only apps that I choose not to do without, so I run a Windows 7 VM using Parallels. In the spinny-drive days I would leave that VM on in the background a lot so my apps would load in a reasonable amount of time. Not too long ago I replaced my main system drive with your run-of-the-mill M4 SSD, and the difference was night and day. Now I can boot the VM and load into the apps so quickly I don't mind shutting down the VM as soon as I'm done with the apps, which makes everything else run nicer.

I'm very much looking forward to enjoying that process running even faster on the new set-up.

Dude, you're talking about spinning drive vs SSD, the conversation and the point I was making were about PCIe SSD vs SATA SSD… This would have been patently obvious had you actually read what I said…

 

[Spinland]

Dude, you're talking about spinning drive vs SSD, the conversation and the point I was making were about PCIe SSD vs SATA SSD… This would have been patently obvious had you actually read what I said…

If you in turn read what I posted, you'll see that I finished up by stating how I am looking forward to my use case improving even more. The general post was to set up why, in fact, someone actually does care despite your dismissal. Thanks for playing.

 

[Gudi]

Not all places in Europe drive on the right side..
I see the point that the UK uses a different numerical system to most of Europe.

When they talk about "the continent" on BBC, they mean the mainland excluding themselves. Why not stick with that definition once and for all? It's not only that you can't count, measure and drive properly. After all, as long as a World Travel Adapter Kit is needed to visit the island ...

You are leaving the Euro-plug-zone.​

 

[0x0x0x0]

If you in turn read what I posted, you'll see that I finished up by stating how I am looking forward to my use case improving even more. The general post was to set up why, in fact, someone actually does care despite your dismissal. Thanks for playing.

First, you're not going to get any noticeable improvement going from same kind of SATA SSD to PCIe SSD (we're not talking archaic to modern switch here), and anything you do experience would be down to two factors: fresh flash chips and placebo, both will wear off soon…

Secondly, you've finished by comparing apples and oranges: old set up vs whatever you're going to get for a new machine. Again, my statement only dealt with PCIe SSD vs SATA SSD other things being equal…

 

[Spinland]

...you've finished by comparing apples and oranges:

No, that's not what I did. I described a progression from slow-to-very-much-faster, declared that I liked it, and expressed interest in whether very-much-faster to even-faster will be even more to my liking. All in response to your apparently dismissing the difference as something no one cares about. Since I care, placebo effect or not, my post was well aimed.

 

[0x0x0x0]

No, that's not what I did. I described a progression from slow-to-very-much-faster, declared that I liked it, and expressed interest in whether very-much-faster to even-faster will be even more to my liking. All in response to your apparently dismissing the difference as something no one cares about. Since I care, placebo effect or not, my post was well aimed.

The conversation was not about any form of progression but mere performance comparison between PCIe SSD and SATA SSD

 

[Spinland]

The conversation was not about any form of progression but mere performance comparison between PCIe SSD and SATA SSD

My part of it was. Apologies for not making that more clear. Peace out.

 

[hestroy]

I like it. It'll be a nice machine for many pros. But can I repeat my request for a headless desktop that uses desktop components, starts at $1000, and is very nicely configured for $1500?

Buy a PC. It's even cheaper.

 

[LLIBSETAG]

Headless Mac?

Sounds perfect, I'll just give Tim Cook a call and see what he thin--

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It's called a MAC MINI Dude… Check it out.
www.apple.com/macmini

 

[keysofanxiety]

It's called a MAC MINI Dude… Check it out.
www.apple.com/macmini

Interesting, I didn't realise the Mac Mini used desktop components. Unless you class a mobile CPU as a 'desktop' component. Or a lack of a dedicated, swappable graphics card. But hey, it's worth making a comment to try and one-up somebody, huh?

 

[Eightarmedpet]

Mini wouldn't do games, even iris pro is crap in games.

I play Left for Dead 2 on mine (and Boarderlands) with a 3000, at the lowest settings but still 1920x1080 pretty well... do wish it had a decent card though.

 

[oplix]

This is a prototype R2-D2 unit.

 

[AnalyzeThis]

Those 4K monitors...

I am not sure how would anyone enjoy 32" 4K monitor. It has 138 pixel/inch. For example, 27" iMac has 109 pixel/inch (it is at border line of being uncomfortable). I am really comfortable with 1920x1200 26" ~90 pixel/inch.

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I play Left for Dead 2 on mine (and Boarderlands) with a 3000, at the lowest settings but still 1920x1080 pretty well... do wish it had a decent card though.

Now, wait a bit until Haswell mini is released. I played Half-Life 2 on HD4600 with i7-4770K - at 2560x1440 and medium-high settings - it was silky smooth, figures... Freaky, but CPU did not even got worm, there is something wrong with this picture ;-). I would look into getting Haswell mini, but if they squeeze HD5000+ in it it should be very nice little machine.