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I like it. It'll be a nice machine for many pros. But can I repeat my request for a headless desktop that uses desktop components, starts at $1000, and is very nicely configured for $1500?
Sure, you can repeat the request, but Apple will continue to ignore it.

I think the surge in market share would scare them.
 
Guess what? then you're not European. Because this is what real Europeans use!

Real Europeans? You know as well as I, there are no such thing. Only many different countries pretending to have something is common. Kind of like mass hysteria, only more so. The "Euro" is a perfect example of large scale illusion. ;)
 
on the other hand people from the US (an UK) still use silly units from the middle age like feet and inches instead of the metric system like the rest of the world ;)
http://theoatmeal.com/pl/senior_year/science

Well, we got our currency right. We just slipped up on everything else. Actually there was a big push to go Metric in the eighties and nineties, but that soon faded away. I am one of the few who would like to dump our measuring system based on 12. It's really crazy as hell, but I guess it's reflective of human nature. Oh Well... :(
 
Real Europeans? You know as well as I, there are no such thing. Only many different countries pretending to have something is common. Kind of like mass hysteria, only more so. The "Euro" is a perfect example of large scale illusion. ;)

I'm not saying Europeans have something in common but if you live on the continent that is known as Europe then you are European. You're confusing this with the European Union.

And besides the language have so much in common either. Due to the two-party political system, the US is so divided that it's not a true union either. The bigger the country/union, the more opinions, mindsets, ideologies you are going to have. This makes governing difficult and political differences are guaranteed. But the economic gains from the Euro has been tremendous. The media always talks about Greece, Spain, Ireland etc. But if you look at the rest of the northern countries and countries like Germany and Austria economic gains are evident. The European Union is not necessarily a bad thing, it's just that some people had the wrong expectations. If you think the Euro is an illusion then you need to watch something besides Fox News. The fact of the matter is that the Euro is currently the world's largest currency in terms of circulation. There are more Euros in circulation than US dollars. The trend is continuing this way and with China and the Arabian peninsula investing more and more in Europe, they will have more Euros and will ultimately help in establishing the Euro as the world currency. You probably won't believe me, but take a look at this post in 10-15 years and you'll see.

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Well, we got our currency right. We just slipped up on everything else. Actually there was a big push to go Metric in the eighties and nineties, but that soon faded away. I am one of the few who would like to dump our measuring system based on 12. It's really crazy as hell, but I guess it's reflective of human nature. Oh Well... :(

It's just ironic how the world's most famous/biggest/important scientific companies are based in the US and they of course use the metric system. I'm not saying that the US system is horrible or anything like that. But there comes a point where one has to realize that a better alternative exists that the rest of the world is using.

Now from a practical perspective, the US system is horrendous. That's why Bio/Chem/Physics/Math/Engineering all use Metric.
 
love how they roll a €10.000 dollar machine across the table :p

They see me rollin'...

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Actually, in countries like Germany, that's exactly what you'd do. To them, your system probably makes no sense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_mark

Yep. I'm uk based and have to proof read scientific information written in "mainland" Europe. I spend more time swapping commas and decimal points than anything else. Any numerical notation (as far as I have come across) is in this format.
 
But it doesn't make grammatical or mathematical sense. A full stop (a.k.a. period) indicates decimals in maths. In literature, it indicates a stop, or the end of a sentence. A comma indicates that there's more to read.

Quite frankly, I don't know why people would write 1.000,1 instead of 1,000.1, especially if they're using numbers. You wouldn't do the same in maths, no matter what country you're from. It's completely off-the-wall.

In holland we write 1.000,1
We are doing that for more than 2000 years.
 
Obviously, you're unfamiliar with the fact that some Europeans switch the meaning of periods and commas in terms of numbers. To an American, one thousand ninety-two and one tenth would be written as 1,092.1. To some Europeans, it would be written as 1.092,2. Same thing.

SINCE WHEN?! Certainly not a UK thing...
 
It's just ironic how the world's most famous/biggest/important scientific companies are based in the US and they of course use the metric system. I'm not saying that the US system is horrible or anything like that. But there comes a point where one has to realize that a better alternative exists that the rest of the world is using.

Now from a practical perspective, the US system is horrendous. That's why Bio/Chem/Physics/Math/Engineering all use Metric.
old habits die hard I guess.
The thing is you probably use both concurently, so you probably have to convert back and forth which doesn't make things easier (correct me if I'm wrong)
I think there a was a nasa rocket crash a few years back because of a confusion in distance units.
Also I can speak and read english but it's a bit annoying when I read like a review or manual and I have to tab every two seconds to google to find you what the heck is "ten feet" or "two pounds".
and in tech imperial unit kind of already won the "war" on some front, for exemple speaking of a "23 inchs screen" is international, as is the dpi.
 
Why are we discussing commas and periods on a macpro thread? Find some other website to discuss this please. Has NOTHING to do with the Mac Pro. NOTHING!!!!!!
 
i like the design and want one! but its too expensive (for me). apple, make one mac pro mini with the mini prices please ;)

i want one just to stand around me :) and why not to use it as a media or web/file server..
 
Yep, thanks, the new MP is a perfect match to the current glossy thunderbolt display! ;) C'mon Apple, where is the new 4K display (matte!)? :rolleyes:
 
False, the initial announcement said "this year". There was an ad in movie theatres that came later that said fall.

the first official mention was via tim cook in 2012 and he said coming in 2013.. then wwdc narrowed it down to this fall (at which point the website and other promo materials used the word 'fall' on them).. then the october event said december.
 
Someone on this lengthy thread has probably already noted this, but without a 4K display this beautiful device is partly wasted on the user. I sure hope Apple has something in the works that's coming out soon. A reasonably priced ($1,500 +/1) would be a major plus.

I think Apple would have sold a pile of them concurrently with this release! Lost profit opportunity!
 
But it doesn't make grammatical or mathematical sense. A full stop (a.k.a. period) indicates decimals in maths. In literature, it indicates a stop, or the end of a sentence. A comma indicates that there's more to read.

Quite frankly, I don't know why people would write 1.000,1 instead of 1,000.1, especially if they're using numbers. You wouldn't do the same in maths, no matter what country you're from. It's completely off-the-wall.

Kompletter Unfug. Andere Sprachen, andere Sitten. Kein normaler Mensch würde jemals 1,000.1 anstatt 1.000,1 schreiben. Punkt statt Komma ist absolut barbarisch. Darum wird es »Dezimalkomma« genannt und nicht »Dezimalpunkt«.
 
also very confusing,
for million billion trillion quadrillion... in english,
in french it goes million milliard billion billiard trillion...
so 1 000 000 000 000 (10^12) is "1 trillion" in english and "1 billion" in french

Well, that's a new thing. Up to around 1960, British English had a milliard as well, and a billion was a million million. Which actually makes a lot more sense, because in countries using long scale, the prefix "bi", "tri", "quad", "quint" means to which power a million is raised.
 
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