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First Machines Using Kaby Lake Processors Coming This Fall, but MacBook Pro Not Likely Among Them
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This. Intel really wants to suck up to Apple for more iPhone biz, this would be a good and obvious move.
Thank you. My thoughts exactly.
And yet most of us use their machines productively much longer than any PC laptop usually is being used. Quiet an achievement. Outdated at release date and years later still good enough for daily work. My rMBP is 4 years old and the MBP of my wife is 8 years old (upgraded with SSD still a very usable machine).
Sometimes it seems to me that this forum is populated by people who want to criticize Apple just for fun.
NO, it won't be outdated from the start, for God's sake!
Why?
Because (thanks @cmChimera )
By the way, seems like no-one actually care reading and understanding the whole sense of this article, so I'll continue mocking Apple.
Booooh, Apple, shame on you, outdated products!!!1!
Too late my friend
Except that maybe CPUs for 13" MacBook Pro, but those for the 15" were available just by a couple of months.
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What surprises me, numerous high profile interviews of Apple execs have been done over the past two weeks; yet none have asked Tim Cook directly about whats taking these new MacBook Pros so long. Shows the media hypocrisy in this industry.
I thought I would never buy something with 'Intel inside' but Apple gave us no choice.
Yes, real desktop alternatives, unfortunately I checked and the EVGA laptop isn't cheap! It's Apple top end laptop expensive actually. Still wait for cheaper laptops with these GPUs and it'll be good.
I've said it before and now it's even more true, by the time the Holiday buying season gets here, if your trying to sell a new flagship computer (MBP) and it doesn't have the latest processor in it that others already do (Kaby Lake) it won't matter what other 'new' tech you say it has it will still be considered outdated with that last generation chip in it (Skylake = old news).
It probably has to do with volume.
How many processors does Apple order in the first place? Apple can sell about 5 million Macs in a quarter. But most of them don't use those high-end expensive Intel processors.
Meanwhile... the rest of the industry orders 60 million processors from Intel. But even though they are mostly less-expensive processors... Intel sells a lot more of them so they would actually make more money from them.
That would be my guess.
As an example... the top-end processor in the last Macbook Pro had a retail price of over $600.
Do you think Intel gets a lot of orders for them? Probably not... which is why those types of processors are not a high priority.
It's awesome that Apple wants to put the fastest most expensive processors in their Macbook Pros.
Unfortunately... Intel doesn't sell enough of them to fast-track them to production.
There's no Fear, Uncertainty, or Doubt in what I say.
Intel gives Apple (and every other computer manufacturer) access to a limited set of early chips so they can use them in prototypes. So Apple wouldn't be dropping chips in untested - they'd have a supply of new chips to prototype with before it was time to ramp up production of the new computer.
...Ya...
Best to skip through this first gen all together and wait for the late 2017 MacBook Pros, might as well, waited this long, best that way anyways to wait, it's always served me greatly. My late 2013 15" MacBook Pro is still super "beastie" hahahahahahahaa... I hate that term "beast". What ever.
I love you all.
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According to Krzanich, Kaby Lake processors are already shipping to Intel's manufacturing partners and will launch in new devices coming this fall, something we already knew following a July earnings call. Krzanich did not provide a further breakdown on when chips appropriate for some of Apple's machines long overdue for updates will launch.
Intel often launches low-power 4.5W Y-series chips and 15W U-series chips first, neither of which are suitable for use in the machine that people are most curious about, the MacBook Pro. According to an old Intel roadmap, Kaby Lake chips appropriate for use in the MacBook Pro, the iMac, and the Mac mini won't launch until the very end of 2016 or the beginning of 2017, meaning any Apple machines released in the fall of 2016 may be limited to Skylake chips.
Rumors suggest the MacBook Pro is getting a major overhaul this year, with a slimmer design, Touch ID support, and a built-in OLED touch panel. There's no specific word on a launch date, but it is expected sometime after the September iPhone event and before the end of the year, pinpointing October or November.
During today's event, along with touching on its 7th Gen processors, Intel outlined Project Alloy, a "merged reality" open source hardware project described as "the next version of VR," allowing objects from the real world to be brought into the virtual world and vice versa. On stage, this was demonstrated with a dollar bill that was used to manipulate a virtual object. Intel also announced TXL labs, a production studio "dedicated to pushing the limits of technology for production," and a new drone platform.
Article Link: First Machines Using Kaby Lake Processors Coming This Fall, but MacBook Pro Not Likely Among Them[/QUOTE]
Best to skip through this first gen all together and wait for the late 2017 MacBook Pros, might as well, waited this long, best that way anyways to wait, it's always served me greatly. My late 2013 15" MacBook Pro is still super "beastie" hahahahahahahaa... I hate that term "beast". What ever.
I love you all.
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According to Krzanich, Kaby Lake processors are already shipping to Intel's manufacturing partners and will launch in new devices coming this fall, something we already knew following a July earnings call. Krzanich did not provide a further breakdown on when chips appropriate for some of Apple's machines long overdue for updates will launch.
Intel often launches low-power 4.5W Y-series chips and 15W U-series chips first, neither of which are suitable for use in the machine that people are most curious about, the MacBook Pro. According to an old Intel roadmap, Kaby Lake chips appropriate for use in the MacBook Pro, the iMac, and the Mac mini won't launch until the very end of 2016 or the beginning of 2017, meaning any Apple machines released in the fall of 2016 may be limited to Skylake chips.
Rumors suggest the MacBook Pro is getting a major overhaul this year, with a slimmer design, Touch ID support, and a built-in OLED touch panel. There's no specific word on a launch date, but it is expected sometime after the September iPhone event and before the end of the year, pinpointing October or November.
During today's event, along with touching on its 7th Gen processors, Intel outlined Project Alloy, a "merged reality" open source hardware project described as "the next version of VR," allowing objects from the real world to be brought into the virtual world and vice versa. On stage, this was demonstrated with a dollar bill that was used to manipulate a virtual object. Intel also announced TXL labs, a production studio "dedicated to pushing the limits of technology for production," and a new drone platform.
Article Link: First Machines Using Kaby Lake Processors Coming This Fall, but MacBook Pro Not Likely Among Them[/QUOTE]
The days of huge performance leaps from one release to the next are long gone. I was able to extend the life of my 2006 MacBook Pro by 2 years by adding an SSD, and that same SSD now sits in the 2010 iMac (with a Core i3) on my desk at home. While it's not a direct comparison, that iMac with El Cap is much snappier in performance than my work Dell laptop which has a Haswell Core i5, runs Windows 7, but has a spinner instead of an SSD. I hate to beat the drum, but a computer is more than the processor, and there are plenty of ways to make it run smooth and fast besides putting a faster chip in it. All the whining on this thread about "getting last year's tech" in the upcoming MBP release is hogwash.
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The new MBP better have Kaby Lake, or else!
Or else what?
Ready to follow in the footsteps of Nokia, SonyEricsson and Blackberry.
Naaa it still runs to hot, they just pumped in a couple more MHz into a G4 and called it good.
My post was meant to bring some humor to the thread. One would think the picture I attached would indicate that.
Actually the 4-core workhorse 15" MBPs haven't had a CPU upgrade in 34 months. Yep, Late-2013. "Current" MBPs have had minor spec & speed bumps, but same Haswell chips, 1600Mhz RAM. You'd probably claim that the "new" 8GB MacbookAir is a 2016 model, right ?
Applologist comes to mind.
What this is saying is that Apple chooses to use different versions of chips than other companies.
This is Apple's choice.
Intel is not deliberately delaying Apple. Intel always releases their higher power and higher performance chips first. And then as they start releasing the lower power and lower performance versions marketed towards devices which have lower performance needs and low energy needs.
It is Apple's choice to use lower performance processors. So yes, Apple will be behind the other companies which build their machines on whatever the latest processor is.
Other companies manage to build high performance machines which use higher power processors and do just fine.
Apple's problem is that they are so focused on being thin, that they force themselves to wait for processors that are meant for devices resembling tablets.