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First Macs With Apple Silicon Could Be 13-Inch MacBook Air and 13-Inch MacBook Pro
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Your Mac will not before slower or older because. Some people will still prefer Intel based Mac in this transition, other will jump this month. Don't see your Mac, enjoy it and think about upgrade in 1-2 year, probably it will have a great vale for users who needs Bootcamp/Virtualization.
Apple announced the transition in WWDC 2020, so this is not new. It's also been discussed in this forum day on and day out. So why would you be pissed if you still decided to buy a MBP despite knowing about the transition?
Exactly. So nice to carry that 12" thing around. If I just wouldn't have to beat the hell out of the arrow-down key... and a bit more cpu power wouldn't hurt, of course. And maybe a second USB-C port, but that's a wild dream!
Apple did a keynote in 2006 for the first intel iMac, and it uses the same design as the white G5 iMac. The redesign was the first intel Macbook Pro (coincidentally introducing MagSafe for the first time as well...
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Chill guys. There won’t be a 13” Apple Silicon MacBook Pro this year. And there may not be one at all. My sources tell me that the first Apple Silicon Macs will be the 12” MacBook and the Mac Mini. The smaller Apple Silicon MacBook Pro will be 14”, while Apple will continue making 13” Intel MacBook Pro.
Also, the next Macbook Air will be Apple silicon based one. There won’t be another Intel-based MacBook Air. The Apple silicon MacBook Air will be released next April.
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12” - MacBook
14” - MacBook Air
16” - MacBook Pro
That’s how Apple will roll on their silicon.
13” will stay with Intel for a few years. Then it will be discontinued. The 16” will be on Intel for another year or two until it is replaced with Apple silicon. The 16” Pro needs to be significantly more powerful than the 14” Air, and there will be a dual Apple silicon in the 16” version or twice the number of cores in one silicon. They haven’t decided on how to roll on that one yet, as they want to get more usage data once Apple Silicon Macs are released into the wild before they make the final decision on the 16” Apple Silicon design.
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Too soon for their flagship portable computer. Probably a slow roll out ending with the higher-end models.Looks like we won't be seeing 16"
As mentioned I don't want to travel with and maintain 2 computers - that's the time drain as a one-man company.
(I cycle / walk to various work places every day, so it's not a completely trivial issue) - not to mention maintaining synchronisation between two separate computers when I have NDAs that prevent various cloud connections.
I would love a 14" MacBook or MacBook Air, with or without Touch Bar. Touch ID is good though.Was hoping for a 14" without touchbar but I'll live with a 13"
The intel transition was announced to take two years while it lasted less than that. Back then, must third-party software worked and the machines were way better than the PPC ones.
Will this transition also be shortened?
It seems possible since this time Apple has full information about their own processors and their capabilities and availability.
Thus, unless is crucial to get an intel Mac right now I'll wait a year or a bit more than that.
Will this transition also be shortened?
It seems possible since this time Apple has full information about their own processors and their capabilities and availability.
Thus, unless is crucial to get an intel Mac right now I'll wait a year or a bit more than that.
I am guessing the ability of Intel PCs to run PowerPC software as fast or faster in emulation along with many OS X apps also having Wintel equivalents helped with the speed of conversion.
I do think that the ASi CPUs will execute a fair bit of Intel software quick enough in emulation and most software has iOS/iPadOS versions that should be able to be adapted quickly enough to macOS, so we might very well see a similar rapid adoption rate.
I feel like whatever they release here is going to be like the very first MacBook Pro—which was just the previous generation machine with an Intel processor. The next generation were the actual unibody machines. So, we'll have a MacBook Air that's like the current MacBook Air.
As much as I want to move to Apple Silicon, I think I am going to wait until the next wave of machines. (Although, honestly, the move to Intel really wasn't a big deal but I did wait until the C2D machines were available before replacing my Aluminum PowerBook.)
I'd like to see an updated 12" MacBook, seriously. Shrink the bezel, give it a keyboard that doesn't suck, two thunderbolt 3 ports (1 on each side) and that's my next machine. Although, I gotta say, with the change in my work requirements, I'm almost thinking Mac Mini + iPad.
My 2020 13" MacBook Pro is easily the most unstable Mac I have ever owned. It's not like it crashes daily, but it's amazing that this newer machine chokes on Thunderbolt 3 all the time including kernel panics.
As much as I want to move to Apple Silicon, I think I am going to wait until the next wave of machines. (Although, honestly, the move to Intel really wasn't a big deal but I did wait until the C2D machines were available before replacing my Aluminum PowerBook.)
I'd like to see an updated 12" MacBook, seriously. Shrink the bezel, give it a keyboard that doesn't suck, two thunderbolt 3 ports (1 on each side) and that's my next machine. Although, I gotta say, with the change in my work requirements, I'm almost thinking Mac Mini + iPad.
My 2020 13" MacBook Pro is easily the most unstable Mac I have ever owned. It's not like it crashes daily, but it's amazing that this newer machine chokes on Thunderbolt 3 all the time including kernel panics.
Kinda related (I guess you just got me thinking), I wouldn't be shocked if Macs actually see a fairly predictable release cycle now. That would be really, really nice.
The PowerPC emulation on Intel (Rosetta) was slower than the native PowerPC machines (I had both). Esp. in MSFT's Office suite (while still PowerPC only) the difference was big enough to be utterly horrible.
The existence of windows variants is actually not helpful: any high level source code is 99.99% unaware of the CPU it will run on (and one could easily argue that any such dependency in any generic application is a really bad thing unless you have a *very* good reason. So simply recompiling for another target that already depends on the OS X libraries was much, much easier than trying to port something from windows (or any other OS) as the softeware would depend on libraries and APIs that are completely different.
The only thing that's hard is when the developer wrote machine code - but very, very few software needs that (and that's a good thing).
Examples of where the CPU is taken into account: compilers, some parts of the Operating System, ... but your generic applications should not care at all. Most of that is covered by Apple already.
The "emulation" in Rosetta2 (the one to run intel code on AppleSilicon) is mostly translation that happens up front. The translated code might well be a bit less efficient than what a native compiler would generate from the actual source code.
Apple already showed demos of it on the DTK machines. Along with leaked benchmarks both show that this translation is -at least in certain use cases- thing that works _really_ well.
The only thing developers need to do in Xcode is just add the Apple Silicon as a target when compiling, and they get a "universal" binary as a result: It'll run on both Intel and Apple Silicon natively at the cost of a larger binary and probably about double the time needed to compile it all. Then they won't need to do more than a testing round to make sure everything works as intended (but that's part of releasing any software anyway).
iPad software comes into play only as the Apple Silicon machines are most likely going to be able to run the iPad binaries from the App Store directly - no translation needed. That's more a library thing than an emulation in the end. But again iPadOS is not macOS and hence porting it between the OSes is far more work than just selecting a different target architecture in Xcode when they compile.
I think the gains will be big, but even if they're 0, people will want to be future-proof. Not enough run VMs to affect the market.
Currently everyone has an x86 Mac. When the AS one comes out, most existing users will have no particular need for x86. Sure, for those who need it, it'll be worth more to them than the market value. For those who don't, they're losing value.
Yeah, and a lot of software runs on Mac now. Windows is still the leader for PC games in particular, but those basically don't work in VMs anyway.
Not to mention the apps that are currently running on iOS. I use MS Office for work and the iOS version that's out today will be fine for me.
Apple did a keynote in 2006 for the first intel iMac, and it uses the same design as the white G5 iMac. The redesign was the first intel Macbook Pro (coincidentally introducing MagSafe for the first time as well...
The first Intel Macbook Pro improvement include Magsafe, Performance Per Watt, Higher Display Resolution.
The First Apple Silicon MBP might only offer performance improvement and overall is significantly less impressive if the price is still the same or more expensive than x86 model.
TBH, what else are we expecting for a laptop? We already have retina display. OTOH, imo the battery life improvement will probably be quite significant, mimicking the iPad's battery life.