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I want it to be awesome, but I will admit, I'm going to be waiting and interested to see the news and leaks between now and then to see if they start to lower expectations.
We have people here thinking Apple's 1st ARM will smash Intel's highest end CPU into pieces on day one.
So will expectations need to be lowered via leaks so when it turns out to be, "It's ok, but nothing special" there won't be waves of disappointment.
What makes you think they can't beat Intel right out of the gate? Their tablet and phone chips already beat them in single-core performance, is it that unreasonable to expect them to be able to overtake them on multi-core too when they can add more cores, more cooling, and more power?

I'm no expert, clearly, I just don't think Apple would have made the switch if they didn't think they could put out a much faster computer than they have in the past.

And that's not even mentioning the potential for improved power efficiency.
 
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Then I expect my 2020 MBP 13” to be swapped with the new one. I’ve been a lifelong Apple fan, but their upgrade cycles for their computers make no sense.
Lol nobody forced you to buy the computer. Entitled much?
 
If that’s the case its not too far a leap to suggest they’ve been able to focus on the internals and just do a logic board “swap”* rather than having to try and get a full re-design of all their laptops done this year.

I believe the 13.3" ASi MacBook Pro will be a placeholder until Apple has the 14.1" MiniLED model ready in 2021.

The 16" MacBook Pro is already on the new style, so if it does go to ASi this month, then I would expect the next update is a 16" MiniLED display in 2021.

MacBook Air design is already pretty good (and ASi would allow the existing battery pack to last longer) so I could understand why it would not change. Again, I could see it maybe going MiniLED in 2021.
 
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Who else is excited to own a computer that needlessly switched to a processor type that no one else uses and that won't be compatible with any of the software you currently run?
Certainly Apple will be excited because they break free of the limitations imposed by having Intel CPUs in their computers.

Many consumers will be excited if the promise of greatly improved performance/Watt is realised, leading to much better battery life in mobile devices, and faster, cooler-running computers.

Rosetta 2 should be able to run the vast majority of existing Intel applications in the short term, and hopefully most software vendors are already working on ARM-native versions.
 
I believe the 13.3" ASi MacBook Pro will be a placeholder until Apple has the 14.1" MiniLED model ready in 2021.

The 16" MacBook Pro is already on the new style, so if it does go to ASi this month, then I would expect the next update is a 16" MiniLED display in 2021.

MacBook Air design is already pretty good (and ASi would allow the existing battery pack to last longer) so I could understand why it would not change. Again, I could see it maybe going MiniLED in 2021.

That‘s a good point, maybe we’ll get a couple of tweaks (improved webcams) and then that’s it until the new LED technology next year.
 
I just bought a 2020 13" MBP when they came out. I'm gonna be pissed if they update it after 6 months.
Welcome to technological progress. You just have to accept the reality. On the plus-side, your MBP is a fine machine that will last you many years, at which point you can move on to tried-and-tested Apple Silicon version that has many years of improvement behind it.
 
You just changed the subject but anyway, no one relying on their macs for mission critical tasks should be using emulation to get their work done
Rosetta is more correctly defined as a "code translation" tool. The conversion to ARM happens at install time, so you will not be running emulated code (except for a few edge cases that can't be translated prior to running). Sure, it won't be optimized as well as hand-crafted code, but it should be stable enough. Let's see how well it works in practice.
 
I have yet to see anything about it running VMware Win10 efficiently - especially with real professional SW like Empire XPU, Altium Designer, Solidworks etc - I don't want to maintain two computers (Intel MacBook + Win10 laptop) and I don't want to go over to Win10 for my administration and documentation work...
It won't run x86 VMs in the first instance, according to Apple. Or maybe ever.
 
Wonder what chip the air would have ? A14 for the MacBook Air and A14x for MacBook Pro ? Or a new variety of chips
The chips will be new, with Mac-specific features (e.g. Thunderbolt) but probably based on a lot of the A14 technology with quite a lot of common features (e.g. CPU & GPU cores)
 
It's about depreciation. The value of any x86 MBP will drop drastically.
Only if the new Apple Silicon Macs offer hugely superior performance for the same price. I suspect that the gains will be fairly moderate. Intel Macs may hold their value due to the ability to dual-boot to Windows/Linux and run x86 VMs - prized by both gamers and developers.
 
It’s gonna be a riot reading these threads back when, just like during the PowerPC days, Apple is off on a hardware island that no one develops for.

Except this time, to fill in the gap, Apple will push devs to write faux-desktop versions of their iOS apps, and try to peddle them as software solutions.

There was nothing wrong with Intel architecture — this was just Apple thinking they can do whatever the hell they want and their loyalists will buy it. Which, judging by this thread, seems to be true.
 
Who else is excited to own a computer that needlessly switched to a processor type that no one else uses and that won't be compatible with any of the software you currently run?
First party apps will be AS ready on day 1, and there’s Rosetta 2.

Imo This will be better than Windows RT/10 S failed transition.
 
This transition is annoying. Although the A14 powered Macs might be great, I think this is just a stopgap. I mean Apple is supposedly have a completely redesigned lineup of AS for the Macs, not just a souped up A series, right? This A14 powered Macs will feel like the first Core Duo intel Macs. Have a feeling these A14 Macs will be quickly ignored in a few years when Apple pushed their real Mac focused chips.
 


Apple's 13-inch MacBook Air and 13-inch MacBook Pro could be some of the first Macs to get Apple Silicon chips with Apple perhaps announcing new versions of these machines at the Apple event set to take place in November.

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Well-respected Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo back in July suggested that Apple would release new 13-inch MacBook Air and MacBook Pro models with Apple Silicon chips before the end of the year, with those machines positioned to transition over to Apple Silicon first.

Today, shortly after Apple's event announcements went out, leaker L0vetodream shared a tweet that says "13 inch x 2," with no other contextual information, but it can be interpreted as meaning Apple plans to announce two 13-inch Apple Silicon Macs at the event. The tweet alone doesn't mean much, but paired with the earlier and more extensive information from Kuo, it gives us a bit of insight into what we might expect to see announced next Tuesday.


Back in July, Kuo clarified that Apple is working on updated 14.1- and 16.1-inch MacBook Pro models that have a redesigned form factor and a mini-LED display, but he said that he does not expect these machines to launch until the second or third quarter of 2021.

There were some earlier rumors of a 24-inch iMac and speculation that it could launch before the end of the year, but L0vetodream's tweet mentions no desktop model and rumors from the Chinese supply chain last week suggested that a new iMac won't launch until the first half of 2021.

Kuo initially thought the iMac and the redesigned MacBook Pro models would launch in the fourth quarter of 2020 or early 2021, but it looks like the more exciting launch with Macs that have significant design changes will come next year.

Apple Silicon Macs will be equipped with Apple's A-series chips, with the first Apple Silicon chips built on the 5-nanometer process. Apple Silicon chips will bring notable speed and efficiency improvements, along with support for universal apps able to run across all of Apple's devices. Apple plans to transition its entire Mac lineup to Apple Silicon, a process that the company expects will take about two years.

For more on what to expect from the Apple Silicon Macs, make sure to check out our guide.

Article Link: First Macs With Apple Silicon Could Be 13-Inch MacBook Air and 13-Inch MacBook Pro
I think they should just release the whole lineup with the dates expected. So its finished with the surprises.
 
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