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The 12" macbook is the best laptop Apple ever made. I want to see that come back and be maintained and updated.
Couldn’t agree more. It had its issues but as an owner of several Mac laptops it is still my favorite.

simply shrink the bezels, keep the light/small form factor but with a 13inch screen. Fix the keyboard. Call it air or whatever u want. This makes the most sense. Fingers crossed
 
Who else is excited to own a computer that needlessly switched to a processor type that no one else uses and that won't be compatible with any of the software you currently run?
That makes no sense. There is a lot of Apple Silicon out there, runs lots and lots of applications. If you are running Macs for bootcamp to run Windows - poor you, I wouldn't run Windows for anything. It will be interesting to see how the pre-compile layer works in real life. Also, most Mac applications are already created using Xcode, so there is only the difference of the target when compiled by the developer, so not much different there. Besides, don't buy one, if you don't want one
 
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I’m making a wild guess here but I think there is a possibility that people use mac with software that’s not made by apple or adobe.
Can you spell Xcode? There is a lot of software written for Macs using Xcode, changing the target device is pretty simple. If you are buying a Mac to run windows under bootcamp, are you really saying that all the windows ohm's make crap computers? Do tell, I hear. lot of folks actually like the Dell XPS (until it breaks)
 
True, I forgot about that. Rosetta for some reason isn't going to work with Parallels or VMWare. Probably not alone, though not mainstream either.
True though I suspect the numbers needing to run windows are dwindling. I remember when the first transition came that was the exciting part boot camp and running windows, now I hardly ever use windows as everything is pretty much cloud based
 
Apple did admit the transition process should take about two years, so I assume there will still be newer Intel macs. But they sent out transition kits back in late June/July, so not all software will be incompatible, and it will only get more and more accepted over those two years
Nope, that doesn't mean new Intel Macs. Why would them put the effort to make support them (new arch, mobos, OS support...) when they are just moving to ARM?
The transition just means they will still be selling existant Intel Macs (like Mac Pro and some iMacs) that don't have an ARM version yet until late 2022, from there every Mac computer should have an ARM option that supersede it.

And again, all x86 software (64 bit of course) will be compatible either by binary translation during installation or by JIT translation. Did you guys really watch the keynote?
How much software is 100% ARM is another whole discussion.
 
It's about depreciation. The value of any x86 MBP will drop drastically.
how do you figure? Those that want to hang on to intel Macs because, of all the hater like comments here, will be glad to keep using it. As I see it, best of both worlds. top that want to adopt, can, those that don't have a viable option for years to come
 
Couldn’t agree more. It had its issues but as an owner of several Mac laptops it is still my favorite.

simply shrink the bezels, keep the light/small form factor but with a 13inch screen. Fix the keyboard. Call it air or whatever u want. This makes the most sense. Fingers crossed

I love the 12” Macbook, I’ve had a few of them over the years. Such a great design, even with its flaws And a far more capable machine than many gave it credit for, especially the last revision.

For a while i thought it was the obvious choice for a first ARM Mac, but as time has gone on, I think Apple see the iPad Air w/Magic Keyboard as filling that part of the market. A 12” Macbook and a 13” Air will just confuse things/dilute sales.
 
True, I forgot about that. Rosetta for some reason isn't going to work with Parallels or VMWare. Probably not alone, though not mainstream either.
I imagine programs like those will have a translator (similar to Rosetta 2) or an x86 emulator. After all there is a rumor that Microsoft is talking with Apple.
 
The bottom line with virtualisation is simple: wait & see.

There's something in the pipeline from Apple itself with their mention of Linux virtualisation

Companies like Parallels for sure have not been sitting by idling away while their market disappears. Give them some more time to announce a product.

Similarly even MSFT cannot ignore that Intel CPUs are looking awful when it comes to processing power / watt used. In a world that increasingly turns more "green", even Redmond will have to do something in the end. Maybe that could include licensing what's needed to run a future version of windows in a virtual machine on an AppleSi machine. It's all where they want to end up themselves in the longer term.

Till then: you still have a year or more to buy a new intel based mac.
And second hand machines will be around for many more years to come - even today you can still pick up fully working PowerPC based ones if you're that desperate.

Other than that: it's not that hard to be windows-free. I only used windows for testing my own websites in MSIE and EDGE for _many_ years. But even that is now gone: they'll have to be standards compliant or won't get to use my websites is my current policy. And that allows me to have the same policy as the cleaning lady: I don't do windows.
So yes it might mean sometimes that I'll make a different buying choice when a vendor makes their stuff windows only. But there's plenty of others that do embrace macOS.
The engineering software I use will not be available on Linux - Win10 only and it's 5000-10000 euro software :)
 
Who else is excited to own a computer that needlessly switched to a processor type that no one else uses and that won't be compatible with any of the software you currently run?
Lol. I'm pretty sure everything I need will be compatible by launch, and if not then definitely by the time I wait for people to find the hardware bugs.

But if you're still not happy, just don't buy one.
 
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Could be Gurman is wrong and the 16" refresh will be Intel.

Maybe not, now I’ve read the article rather than the tweet.

Beyond the processor switch, the devices won’t have significant design changes.
If that’s the case its not too far a leap to suggest they’ve been able to focus on the internals and just do a logic board “swap”* rather than having to try and get a full re-design of all their laptops done this year.

I did wonder if this would be one option rather than have a fragmented lineup with some on Intel, some on ARM and no consistent design across them.


* Over-simplified to the extreme, but you know what I mean.
 
I have a Late 2012 MacBook Pro 13" (first Retina MacBook 13"), and am finally ready to upgrade to a MacBook 13" with Apple Silicon, since my MBP wont run Big Sur.
 
I want it to be awesome, but I will admit, I'm going to be waiting and interested to see the news and leaks between now and then to see if they start to lower expectations.
We have people here thinking Apple's 1st ARM will smash Intel's highest end CPU into pieces on day one.
So will expectations need to be lowered via leaks so when it turns out to be, "It's ok, but nothing special" there won't be waves of disappointment.
 
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