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I love it, I’m a system administrator and sometimes I jump in when we need to install network gear also (Cisco) anyway. We work against our servers (RDS) and with JumpDesktop this works perfectly with iPad Pro and the magic keyboard and trackpad.
I can write in PowerShell without any issues, I can remote in to my MacBook Pro 16” and use power from there also.

The iPad Pro is the ultimate portal devices for me now.
 
I’ve had the folio keyboard case since day one and I agree, it ages reeeally bad.

Here’s my experience:
1. Stitching on the edge begins to peel (once little strains start showing...your in trouble)
2. It becomes a bit of a smudge magnet at first and then gets worse and worse
3. For me the material doesn’t feel good (personal preference)

I‘m pretty sure we all remember those leather folio cases back when the Air 1 and Air 2 came out. They were good quality, nice feel, and for me aged much better.

I would love for Apple to make a magic keyboard case with that same leather material. It might solve those 3 issues, but maybe for some reason Apple isn’t able to..idk 🤷🏽‍♂️

I did preorder the magic keyboard, but not I’m considering canceling mainly because of the material. If I keep it, I will probably buy some kind of cover for it. Yes, a cover for my cover for my iPad 😂 it would be thick

This is what I was thinking: https://www.padandquill.com/cafe-leather-ipad-pro-case12-9-4gen.html

An alternative solution to keeping the material the same is offering Apple Care. It would at least give the option of replacing it down the line. Just an idea.
 
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Is it me, or are all the people saying they "cancelled my preorder" seem to be...I don't know...making it up? They start by saying they cancelled their preorder, then go on to say how they think the iPad is "neutered" or say how instead of buying this they would just get a laptop etc etc.

Why did you preorder it at all then? What are you gaining by coming here and saying that? They seem to be more Apple haters than anything...which makes me wonder why even come to an Apple-centric website just to post their vitriol at the company and it's users? What are they getting out of that?
 
I love it, I’m a system administrator and sometimes I jump in when we need to install network gear also (Cisco) anyway. We work against our servers (RDS) and with JumpDesktop this works perfectly with iPad Pro and the magic keyboard and trackpad.
I can write in PowerShell without any issues, I can remote in to my MacBook Pro 16” and use power from there also.

The iPad Pro is the ultimate portal devices for me now.
This is spot on, for me.

I’m just a lowly consultant and alas I shall rise no higher. But I do have a nice MacBook Pro 13” with a 5k 27” display, but also an iPad Pro 11” with the keyboard folio.
I have the MacBook at my desk, nice device, powerful and with a beautiful large screen. Stunning. But also a tad big to haul around. Even the 13” is rather weighty and it feels like it could be easily damaged in a backpack/briefcase. There was a time when there was an 11” MacBook Air. I liked that a lot, even though it was woefully underpowered. But it was really portable. The 12” MacBook was even worse, IMHO, as it only had 1 USB-C port and there are no USB-C hubs and it was as slow as an asthmatic

But then came the iPad. For a long time I had the 12.9” (1st gen) and it is nice, but a bit big/large/heavy.
Then came the 11” and it is so portable yet very powerful and the battery lasts and last.
About that power, I have no illusion that apple is forcing apps to stay within certain boundaries for memory/cpu/gpu use and that this might limit apps severely. But as a user I never notice this. For me the iPad is a speed monster.

My usecase for the ipad is everything else: There are only a few things I need/want to do on the big screen and everything else is done on my ipad. So editing documents while referencing several other documents, OCR large files and working in large/complex excels is done on the 27” screen with the MacBook Pro 13” screen as a second and my ipad as a notepad.

Everything else is basically done on my ipad. Reading reports, long long looooong threads about a keyboard, collecting information on the internet, reading emails, replying to emails, surfing, small game every now and then and many other things are best done on my ipad.

If I’m in a pinch (or lazy, or away from the office) I use Jump Desktop, login to the Macbook and do what needs to be done. If I’m not to lazy I saunter to my desk and fire up the large screen. But it is amazing how much can be done with a bit of thinking different about your work processes and some google searches.

This magic keyboard, although not perfect, will make my life a bit easier.
For one I really get tired of touching the screen when I’m typing. The trackpad might solve that.
Also the magic keyboard looks like it is really sturdy/doesn’t wobble when typing. I like that a lot.
Another thing is that it looks soooooo cool, floating your ipad around :-D
Also the fact that it is really easy to pick it up and leave the keyboard standing like a dock does look like a useful feature.
The fact that you can’t bend it backwards doesn’t make a big difference to me because I always take my Smart Keyboard folio off when I’m reading. Except for one usecase: when I put it down on a desk and want to write notes. That is when the SKF protects the back of my ipad and I really don’t like the idea of using my ipad unprotected on some table/desk/college-folding-crapy-thing.
And I don’t like the price. But that didn’t stop me from buying it. Or my 1Tb LTE iPad. Or....
 
Is it me, or are all the people saying they "cancelled my preorder" seem to be...I don't know...making it up? They start by saying they cancelled their preorder, then go on to say how they think the iPad is "neutered" or say how instead of buying this they would just get a laptop etc etc.

Why did you preorder it at all then? What are you gaining by coming here and saying that? They seem to be more Apple haters than anything...which makes me wonder why even come to an Apple-centric website just to post their vitriol at the company and it's users? What are they getting out of that?

hmm, so you have to gush about Apple to be acknowledged here?

I don’t think it is unreasonable to have seen the video and decide against buying it. Apple are the one who tease minimal information (always) and offer pre-orders. Apple are the one who keep promoting the iPad as the PC replacement and this is their latest effort in the continuation of that strategy / marketing message.

I am a big fan of the iPad (but not Apple in general) and would like the iPad to me more productive. My use case is about 95% iPad consumption and my surface is 95% productivity...it would be great to have only one device that could be both. Alas both products are miles apart at either end of the usefulness spectrum, I.e the surface is really not a tablet.

I knew as soon as I saw the MK I knew it would not move the iPad on (in my use case) because the MK cannot be folded back for tablet use. However, I had certainly not picked up the bulk of the thing or the weight, so even it had been able to fold, it wouldn’t have been a buy for me (aside from the cost being prohibitive.)

Apple, tease and promise much but often don’t deliver the product that matches (my Apple teased) expectations.
 
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hmm, so you have to gush about Apple to be acknowledged here?

I don’t think it is unreasonable to have seen the video and decide against buying it. Apple are the one who tease minimal information (always) and offer pre-orders. Apple are the one who keep promoting the iPad as the PC replacement and this is their latest effort in the continuation of that strategy / marketing message.

I am a big fan of the iPad (but not Apple in general) and would like the iPad to me more productive. My use case is about 95% iPad consumption and my surface is 95% productivity...it would be great to have only one device that could be both. Alas both products are miles apart at either end of the usefulness spectrum, I.e the surface is really not a tablet.

I knew as soon as I saw the MK I knew it would not move the iPad on (in my use case) because the MK cannot be folded back for tablet use. However, I had certainly not picked up the bulk of the thing or the weight, so even it had been able to fold, it wouldn’t have been a buy for me (aside from the cost being prohibitive.)

Apple, tease and promise much but often don’t deliver the product that matches (my Apple teased) expectations.
No you don’t have to gush, but it is odd that so many people seem to have preordered the most expensive keyboard ever and then cancel it because it doesn’t do things that Apple never said it would do nor showed in their adds.
then in the same post they argue it is bad quality, bad design, that in two years time the battery needs to be replaced and al other kinds of nonsense.

That being said, you are making sense about creating vs consuming.
But Why is it so bad to have two tools: one for consumption, one for creating?
I do wonder what you do on your surface that can’t be done on the iPad? (Serious interest).
 
No you don’t have to gush, but it is odd that so many people seem to have preordered the most expensive keyboard ever and then cancel it because it doesn’t do things that Apple never said it would do nor showed in their adds.
then in the same post they argue it is bad quality, bad design, that in two years time the battery needs to be replaced and al other kinds of nonsense.

That being said, you are making sense about creating vs consuming.
But Why is it so bad to have two tools: one for consumption, one for creating?
I do wonder what you do on your surface that can’t be done on the iPad? (Serious interest).

Well obviously if you do a lot on international travel, like I do, then lugging two devices is a pain, aside from the weight and space of doing so, cables for both, power adapters for both etc, it is a extra pain going through airport security etc. Note, I also carry a USB monitor.

My usage case is pretty simple, at present I am lying in bed (8:00 AM in the UK) and the iPad is perfect, later I will be outside (hopefully) sitting in the sun and again, the iPad is great to able to catch up the news and read a magazine etc. This afternoon I will start some work, Autodesk Inventor, complex spreadsheets linked to our business system, connected to my 34” monitor (and the iPad connected to the Surface via duet). I have a Surface dock, which makes using the Surface easy, I.e I don’t have to disconnect all my cables etc when I need to take it out. I prefer the Surface to a traditional laptop because it can sit on my desk without a keyboard taking up real estate, still see the screen as well as my monitor. If only the surface had the tablet experience of the iPad I would be happy...or vice versa
 
Gotta love all the negative comments. Apple delivers on what so many have wanted and its never good enough even though this single accessory is most likely going to change the game going forward. Especially with heavy rumors of Apple bringing pro apps to the iPad. Apple didn’t spend 6 months or more developing a whole new paradigm for iPad cursor support for nothing. Bigger things are coming.

P.S.
NEWS FLASH HATERS: you don’t have to buy it!
Pro Apps need more RAM. The iPad has only 6GB of RAM, which is perfect for a tablet, but very low for a productivity workstation.
 
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Is it me, or are all the people saying they "cancelled my preorder" seem to be...I don't know...making it up? They start by saying they cancelled their preorder, then go on to say how they think the iPad is "neutered" or say how instead of buying this they would just get a laptop etc etc.

Why did you preorder it at all then? What are you gaining by coming here and saying that? They seem to be more Apple haters than anything...which makes me wonder why even come to an Apple-centric website just to post their vitriol at the company and it's users? What are they getting out of that?
Maybe I can help. I cancelled my preorder because
a. Stock was limited (shipping is now 3-4 weeks in the UK) so I jumped as soon as it was available
b. I thought I wanted one, because I do a lot of typing, and I was in the mood to treat myself
c. On reflection, I realised I don’t, at least not without seeing one in the flesh, for a number of reasons
People purchase on impulse; and people change their minds; not least when they see £350 leave their bank accounts at a time when everything is very uncertain, and I’m not going to be taking my iPad out of the house for at least three more weeks - a house where I have a MBP16 attached to a 27in screen.

For me, the two dealbreaker issues are:
it doesn’t fold all the way back, which is how I use my iPad 50% of the time
The outer is made of the same very un-Apple low-grade material that my smart keyboard is; which has not aged at all well in the last 18 months.


Hope that helps. I doubt other people are making it up - and I don’t hate Apple, quite the opposite. I just don’t think this product is likely to be worth the very high price for me.
 
Hands on reviews looks like it’s going to be even better on the lap than the ASK which working from home is ideal
 
$300 to $350 for something that looks like it was made by zagg. It’s not that bad but the trackpad looks and sounds so cheap, it only adjust to very little angles, it weighs as much as a laptop, and it’s the same material as the smart folio that we know will age quickly. I would wait for version two and that’s a lot coming from someone who buys all of apple’s New tech.

Fully agreed with you, it looks like a cheaply made with low-grade material and uneven trackpad size is a problem for the majority of people.
 
Hands on reviews looks like it’s going to be even better on the lap than the ASK which working from home is ideal

Yes looks like the bottom plate is even more sturdier / doesnt flex and the iPad is raised up closer to the eyes.
 
What kind of magic allows the top cover to support the weight of the iPad, bend back, hold any angle, and stop without having any visible hinge or bulge? I see the hinge on the inside of the cover but it’s still pretty impressive that there’s no visible hinge on the outside. The pricing must include the price of a warranty repair if something lands on top of it and bends it backwards more and breaks it. Like if a book falls on top of it.

As for not being able to go into tablet mode, just look at it this way - Now when you easily detach the tablet from the keyboard/cover, you have a truly fantastic thin and light tablet experience that you didn’t have before. You can put it back on its cover when you come back from the bathroom. Some of my time is extended tablet-only use with some carrying around so one of those $20 thin plastic cases works well and makes it a lot less slippery with a lip around the bezel. It only takes about 5 seconds to get on and off.

There’s a lot of unused space in the around the keyboard where the battery would be in a notebook. Are there weights in there? Is that why it’s so heavy?
 
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I was very excited to see some online reviews, and now I must admit I regret it.
Honestly, I am looking forward to the case, but the online reviews spoiled several impressions from the start:
- weight (although not a deal-breaker for me) 0.6 kg
- materials - I believe the Folio Keyboard has a terrible material in terms of longevity (for such a pricey product I was expecting they improved here - this is a very big downside for me). This material is a magnet to dust, oils, and scratches easily, ages horribly.
- design - I saw complaints that the row of the upper key, poses a problem. Due to the fact the iPad is floating, you may end up hitting the tablet with your knuckles.

By now, my excitement gets replaced with doubts, but I try to reserve my impressions for the time it arrives. Terrible price, I might have jumped on the train of purchase too fast :)
I do need a proper typing experience and a portable mouse/trackpad though, so I hope those are true to Apple's standards of quality.
 
I hate that the keyboard doesn’t have a play/pause key and volume/brightness controls. These are my most used keys on my Bluetooth keyboard and I really will be missing these.
 
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I hate that the keyboard doesn’t have a play/pause key and volume/brightness controls. These are my most used keys on my Bluetooth keyboard and I really will be missing these.

Tim Cook mantra at Apple is to not make the products feel good or extraordinary.
 
It’s expensive. And if it’s supposed to function like a dock, won’t the Usbc port of the dock be able to transfer data as well?
Can I connect a USBc hub to it to drive an external monitor? Thumbdrive? Or that still has to go to the port on the ipad itself? If so that is real dumb and I’m paying for a very very expensive dock
 
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