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Hey, PRICE WHINERS !

In 1984 for $ 2,400 we had a Mac with:

9 inch black and white screen
NO hard drive
NO Superdrive
NO built in camera
NO Wi-Fi
128!!!!mb memory for the OS

Couldn't even log it around!

If you buy this puppy plus Apple Care for say $ 3,000 with some bells and whistles it will cost you:

$ 1,000 a year
apr. $ 85 a month
apr. $ 2.75 a day

We live with iphone plans of $ 100 a month, so this machine is really expensive?

Huh?

The U.S. economy was also doing really well and growing in 1984. Even so, the Macintosh wasn't in every household; Steve Jobs said he wanted 100 percent market share for the Mac, but that'll only happen (hypothetically anyway) with competitive prices. It'll all happen in time, with some patience we'll see every Apple product with a retina display and flash memory.

Fun fact: adjusted for inflation, $2,400 in 1984 is the equivalent of $5,346 today.
 
I have a Rev A late 2008 Unibody MacBook Pro, it has been wonderful from day one all the way to today. I have a new Retina 'Book on order, I'm definitely due.....

I also have the late 2008 2.53GHz uMBP. For a Rev A. it's a wonderful machine and has never let me down. Still going strong four years later. Although, I have upgraded mine to 8GB RAM and a Crucial M4 512GB SSD. Even though the SSD is SATA III and the uMBP is SATA II, this thing is very fast. Also has a new battery and MagSafe adaptor.

After four years though, I would like an upgrade and I've been waiting for an optical drive-less 15-inch MBP for ages. Anyone want to make me an offer on my old uMBP? ;)
 
I'm kinda curious as to how Windows under bootcamp runs on these machines and if it can even take advantage of the retina display properly. Also, am curious about Linux running on these machines.

Personally, I run Windows/Linux under VMWare Fusion, but some of my coworkers choose to run Windows or Linux on their Macs. The last round of purchases, we bought 17" MacBook Pros for all developers, because we figured they could run whatever OS they wanted if they don't like OS X. I'm wondering if we can do the same this time.

http://www.anandtech.com/Gallery/Album/2080#1

it does! looks awesome
 
Not sure why this got down voted, but thanks for the post. Good info.

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Can anyone hook this thing up to an external monitor? How does it handle scaling? Or just somehow magically keeps elements the right size on the external display?

I hook mine up to my 30" Cinema display, with the clam shell closed. I have had no problems
 
This makes me think of a discussion in a recent episode of Veep, from HBO, involving a character not-so-subtly bashing a professional photographer's choice of camera and bragging about how he owns a more expensive one. The photographer's comeback is perfect but it's onviously lost on the other guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEwUnENlc9M&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Obviously some need this level of computing power but I doubt that the majority do and it's just a status symbol. It's a beautiful computer but, for $3,000 for a moderately loaded one, I hardly believe anybody really "needs" something like that.

My .02. YMMV.
 
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Just got my MacBook Pro Retina (15.4/2.7ghz/16gb/512gb) and installed Photoshop CS6.

The current version of Photoshop's UI is very pixelated as seen in the screenshot. The computer is very responsive as applying filters, etc. is super fast! Can't wait until Adobe updates the UI to accommodate the retina display across the CS6 Suite.

Does it really look pixelated? I mean, that's exactly how photoshop would look on a 1440 x 900 screen - which I have here on my Macbook Air, and nothing looks pixelated. Is it more that it 'looks' pixelated next to the hiDPI assets in OSX such as the menu bar and dock etc?

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Also can anyone with one confirm if you can run the display in 'normal' 2880 x 1800 pixel mode? Rather than HiDPI 'retina' mode?
 
Obviously some need this level of computing power but I doubt that the majority do and it's just a status symbol. It's a beautiful computer but, for $3,000 for a "loaded" one, I hardly believe a casual user needs something like that.

My .02. YMMV.

Is the 2.7 Ghz the best seller of the bunch? Probably not. The 2.3 will do me fine, but if you want a bigger SSD you have no choice but to go with the 2.6. I'm not sure people are bumping up just for the heck of it.

I love the lower weight, beautiful screen. I can clearly read it a arms length w/o glasses. That's huge to me. Just b/c you won't max it out doesn't mean it won't go to good use. Status symbol? The people I hang with are impressed by a case of 2008 Duckhorn Three Palms Vineyard Merlot, not a frickin laptop, so I can't really say if that's true. But seems if it is that person would have a lot of other status symbols to go w/ it lest being seen as a poseur.
 
Just got my MacBook Pro Retina (15.4/2.7ghz/16gb/512gb) and installed Photoshop CS6.

The current version of Photoshop's UI is very pixelated as seen in the screenshot. The computer is very responsive as applying filters, etc. is super fast! Can't wait until Adobe updates the UI to accommodate the retina display across the CS6 Suite.

Even the window buttons look pixelated. Adobe not using Apple's APIs? Who would have thought!
 
Also can anyone with one confirm if you can run the display in 'normal' 2880 x 1800 pixel mode? Rather than HiDPI 'retina' mode?
Likely doable with user hacks.
Why did they do it?
Space hog.
Enough! Seriously you need a reality check! Apple charges like 2-3 times the street price for those upgrades. I'm glad they have 8 GB as standard, because except for hardcore photo designers, CAD developers, composer or other "real" pro users nobody need's more then 8 GB, nor the more powerful i7s nor the bigger SSD drives, when you just manage your files correctly. I mean you can have all your iTunes media on a separate thunderbolt drive for example. I see no reason why any prosumer would need the bigger more expensive models.
There is no such thing as too much RAM and too much storage.

Also, expensive it may be, overpriced it isn't. Every other vendor does the exact same thing when it comes to custom-kit components. You want that brand-spanking-new Quadro GPU in the latest Dell workstation notebook? A few grand, please.
Don't buy the base model thinking you can upgrade later...
I figured that out with just the WWDC slides and took them into account when ordering mine. Then I looked at iFixit.
nice BUT way over priced. for $3k plus laptop.
Expensive it may be, overpriced it isn't, especially with Mac computer hardware.
Got the 2.6 with 16gb ram and 512gig HD.

Surprised so many people went with the 2.7. Didn't think it was worth $250 for a .1 Ghz bump in processing speed.

2 to 3 Week wait when I ordered it though.
I framed it as a "should I spend $500 for ~240GB more real storage or $500 for doing things faster even if I don't need the speed now"...
 
Any owners of the new machine using Adobe CS6? Can you get the 650M to support CUDA acceleration by running the GPU sniffer from the command line?
 
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Any of you with the new MBPR and Photoshop could try and do a SS @ it "more space" screen setting? Just to see if its pixelated...

I think for some 3rd party apps that may be the best setting right now! Because you have a lot off pixels for a 15.4" display and a lot of space to work!

When using Apple apps, switch it back to "retina" ;)
 
Excitedly Wanting but Strenuously Patient

I'll be waiting until next year when they bring out a proper PRO MB so I can upgrade from my 2008 MBP

I'm also stuck with my Early 2008 15-inch MacBook Pro.

I'm saving up like crazy to get the AU3199.00 Retina MBP because 512GB SSD Flash Storage is 12GB more than my 500GB 7200RPM HDD.

And for some reason, this seems like a far more attractive option as opposed to the 2.4 GHz "Penryn" Intel Core 2 Duo with only 4GB of RAM.

I just hope like crazy that I don't experience the same issue as my current one where it literally died as a result of the nVidia GPU carking it.

Overall, this is a real strenuous game of "Patience" for most of us (not so much the time it takes to ship but more the fact that we aren't rich or that some of us have "deep pockets but short arms").

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So, anyone tried Boot Camping Windows 7 yet?

Are UI elements so darn small you need a magnifying glass to change the DPI?

Also, what else can you tell us?
 
The lack of "Macbook Pro" under the screen still seems odd to me. I understand why they did it, but I guess I'm just not used to it.

Is it really that important to have the name on it? :confused: If the computer is yours YOU know what it is.

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I don't think that any mac or apple product will stack up in inventory not to mention new released awesome mac.

I'd like to see 1st week sales figures I don't think they sold more than few thousands...and what surprise me more that it is a high end expensive model and a lot of people are buying them.

There were several reports indicating people were holding off purchasing a new laptop (for the last 3-6 months) in anticipation of this release.
 
Since when was it EVER about "need"??

The fact is though, if you work in a technical field (or like me, I.T. itself), your computer(s) are tools you rely on to do your job -- as well as for part of your continuing education and entertainment.

I've never bought a Mac that I actually "needed" in the sense I couldn't survive without it or something. But they've all enriched my life and been quite sensible purchases if you look at everything I've gotten back out of them, and all the hours I've logged using each one.

The idea I've bought any of these machines as "status symbols" ignores the possibility I simply admire and appreciate their quality and capabilities, and thought they were good places to spend my money. The whole status symbol notion makes it sound like a person just carries the thing around to show it off, and never actually powers it on and does anything functional/useful with it..... Except for a few TV personalities and other celebrities who use their Macs as flashy props, I doubt this is usually reality.


This makes me think of a discussion in a recent episode of Veep, from HBO, involving a character not-so-subtly bashing a professional photographer's choice of camera and bragging about how he owns a more expensive one. The photographer's comeback is perfect but it's onviously lost on the other guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEwUnENlc9M&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Obviously some need this level of computing power but I doubt that the majority do and it's just a status symbol. It's a beautiful computer but, for $3,000 for a moderately loaded one, I hardly believe anybody really "needs" something like that.

My .02. YMMV.
 
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