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Are you purchasing 12 or 12 Pro

  • Yes

    Votes: 77 81.1%
  • No

    Votes: 18 18.9%

  • Total voters
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Leet Apple

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Let me start off saying I've owned iPhone 3G, 4, 4S, 5, 5S, 6, 7, 8, X and now 11 but for the first time im genuinely disappointed at a Apple phone launch product. The new design reminds me off a iPhone 4 with just more screen and the features these year aren't really groundbreaking. Now there's also the price tag of this new iPhone $1399 CAD for the 12 Pro which is pretty much MacBook pricing at this point at this point I'm just venting but man I never would've thought the day where Apple drops a product I don't want to throw my money at.

Do you guys think this is a good release? Are you purchasing it? and if so let me know so I can wrap my head around it!
 
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Leet Apple

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You should reserve judgment until you get one in your hands and see for yourself. I think 5G is huge as well as the potential for accessories with MagSafe. IMO the 12 (non-pro) is the sweet spot in the lineup.

You wanna snap on cases for that cost? also 5G is nice but what kind of speed performance do you need from your phone?
 

SuperNinjia

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Bigger display. 5G. Smaller bezel. Faster CUP. Faster GPU. Much faster Neural engine. LiDAR for better night photo and AR. Faster Image Signal Processor (ISP). Much better camera especially in low light (especially pro max). New 7 Lens camera. 43% Bigger sensor for the wide lens. (pro max). New refined (old) design with stainless band. And MagSafe! I really think it is a decent release.
 
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Leet Apple

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Not sure why you are dissapointed. Thank Apple for releasing an iPhone during this pandemic time. They did not have to do this. You should watch the commercial videos. It speaks for itself.

Thank them? They release a phone every year for $$$ lol. but I see there are tailoring this more for photography in the commercials and I am a photographer its cool features but I'm not dropping my camera for a iPhone anytime soon unless they make it able to tether to studio lighting than I'm sold





Bigger display. 5G. Smaller bezel. Faster CUP. Faster GPU. Much faster Neural engine. LiDAR for better night photo and AR. Faster Image Signal Processor (ISP). Much better camera especially in low light (especially pro max). New 7 Lens camera. 43% Bigger sensor for the wide lens. (pro max). New refined (old) design with stainless band. I really think it is a decent release.


Decent but feels like more of an S model not more a new phone with stunning product feature and new launch iOS so I'm still disappointed
 

LFC2020

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The way I see it, if people aren’t interested in a newly released iPhone, that means their phone is more than capable of being used for another year.

Last year I wasn’t feeling the iPhone 11 range so I kept my xs max for another year, this year I’m upgrading to the iPhone 12 non pro, then next year back to the pro models for 120hz displays.

iPhones are that good these days software and hardware wise, skipping a year purchasing a new iPhone isn’t the end of the world.
 

bobmans

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I can see how you feel disappointed when coming from anything newer than an iPhone X. iPhones last so long now and have been great the past couple of years that the incremental updates every year might not seem like a lot on a YoY basis. I always tell people to buy a new phone when you actually need a new one, don’t buy one just because the latest model just came out. Once you stop looking at the differences between last years model and just buy one when you need one then you will never be disappointed. These phones aren’t targeted at people with an iPhone 11, they’re targeted at people rocking an older phone looking for an update. Just because Apple releases a new phone does not mean you immediately need to buy it, these phones are made to last and should be used until they break down/get old :)
Nobody is going to look weird at you for using your iPhone 11 for a couple more years, these phones are made to last and sometimes the internet and especially youtube reviews can give you the impression that it’s required to get the latest and greatest phone every year.
 

Sam in SoCal

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Bigger display. 5G. Smaller bezel. Faster CUP. Faster GPU. Much faster Neural engine. LiDAR for better night photo and AR. Faster Image Signal Processor (ISP). Much better camera especially in low light (especially pro max). New 7 Lens camera. 43% Bigger sensor for the wide lens. (pro max). New refined (old) design with stainless band. I really think it is a decent release.
You forgot about the new ceramic display shield. Also they finally ditched intel modems and we are back to Qualcomm . That’s huuuge. You also forgot to mention the whole line up is now OLED, and we got a new mini size. This is a great release. don’t even get me started on MagSafe
 

Nozuka

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Decent but feels like more of an S model not more a new phone with stunning product feature and new launch iOS so I'm still disappointed

Looking at your history you should be used to that... you bought the 4S after the 4, the 5S after the 5, the 8 after the 7 and the 11 after the X.... these were all small jumps and you still bought them ;)

Jumps will get smaller and smaller now that the smartphone market is very mature. It gets harder to add new exciting things to a product, that already has everything and even though it gets faster, you can't really tell anymore.

Most people seem to be happy that they are going back to the beatiful iPhone 4 design.

Maybe you should try and get used to the idea of not buying a new Phone every year. Then it will be more exciting again once you buy one after 2-3 years and the jump will also be bigger. And you also get to save some money :)
 

cababah

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Jun 11, 2009
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You wanna snap on cases for that cost? also 5G is nice but what kind of speed performance do you need from your phone?
Seems like you are looking for justification that it’s not worth it for you and that’s fine and totally subjective but for other people, the answer to both of those questions is “Yes.”

Right now, we can only see these on paper. Wise choice would be to wait until they arrive in people’s hands and make the final assessment then. Some features don’t really stand out purely looking at a spec sheet.
 

Leet Apple

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Looking at your history you should be used to that... you bought the 4S after the 4, the 5S after the 5, the 8 after the 7 and the 11 after the X.... these were all small jumps and you still bought them ;)

Jumps will get smaller and smaller now that the smartphone market is very mature. It gets harder to add new exciting things to a product, that already has everything and even though it gets faster, you can't really tell anymore.

Most people seem to be happy that they are going back to the beatiful iPhone 4 design.

Maybe you should try and get used to the idea of not buying a new Phone every year. Then it will be more exciting again once you buy one after 2-3 years and the jump will also be bigger. And you also get to save some money :)

Apple upgraded me 4 to 4S funny enough, shoutout macrumours for someone saying Toronto had no stock of White 16GBs and were swapping at repairs.

most of my other iPhones I lost or smashed to bits so I always had to upgrade but I've never complained on getting the latest design
 

Leet Apple

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Seems like you are looking for justification that it’s not worth it for you and that’s fine and totally subjective but for other people, the answer to both of those questions is “Yes.”

Right now, we can only see these on paper. Wise choice would be to wait until they arrive in people’s hands and make the final assessment then. Some features don’t really stand out purely looking at a spec sheet.

5G capability is what Apple provides cool but the 5G service is through networks that don't always provide as advertised or at least what I've experienced in the past with some networks here
 

edhchoe

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I don't know what groundbreaking features you were expecting, but I have never been more excited about new iPhone release than this since iPhone 4.
All I do with my iPhone is texting, Youtube, shopping, browsing internet, use it as car key, hotspot, email, music, Banking, scan documents, control smart home devices, and take photos. etc.
What's important to me is that the iPhone works fast and smooth while performing those tasks.
So as long as the new iPhone has faster processors, what's important to me is that it is lighter and aesthetically pleasing.
iPhone 12 is a modern masterpiece. iPhone 6 thru 11 didn't look that good to me.
 
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Taz Mangus

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I don't know what groundbreaking features you were expecting, but I have never been more excited about new iPhone release than this since iPhone 4.
All I do with my iPhone is texting, Youtube, shopping, browsing internet, use it as car key, hotspot, email, music, Banking, scan documents, control smart home devices, and take photos. etc.
What's important to me is that the iPhone works fast and smooth while performing those tasks.
So as long as the new iPhone has faster processors, what's important to me is that it is lighter and aesthetically pleasing.
iPhone 12 is a modern masterpiece. iPhone 6 thru 11 didn't look that good to me.

Loving the throwback to the iPhone 4 myself. Too many iterations with rounded edges. Nice to see something a little different but familiar again. The specs this year are outstanding. If the specs really do bear out, the cameras in the iPhone 12 Pro Max are going to be outstanding. I am really looking forward to taking pictures in low light situations. Stellar looking phones this year and the best looking IMO.
 

ian87w

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Agree that the launch was disappointing, but more because of the complete leaks just prior to the keynote. Heck, even the prices were leaked. It's like going to a theater to watch a movie and you already read the script. The production value is still great, but the content becomes boring since every major points are already spoiled.
 
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Leet Apple

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I don't know what groundbreaking features you were expecting, but I have never been more excited about new iPhone release than this since iPhone 4.
All I do with my iPhone is texting, Youtube, shopping, browsing internet, use it as car key, hotspot, email, music, Banking, scan documents, control smart home devices, and take photos. etc.
What's important to me is that the iPhone works fast and smooth while performing those tasks.
So as long as the new iPhone has faster processors, what's important to me is that it is lighter and aesthetically pleasing.
iPhone 12 is a modern masterpiece. iPhone 6 thru 11 didn't look that good to me.

Fair enough, what iPhone are you currently on? also IMO iPhone 3G was the most aesthetically pleasing iPhone
 

cababah

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5G capability is what Apple provides cool but the 5G service is through networks that don't always provide as advertised or at least what I've experienced in the past with some networks here
Not sure where you live but a coverage map would tell you if you get 5G. Coverage is always expanding so it’s not a bad idea to get an iPhone that supports this tech for better future proofing.

I happen to live in the Bay Area which has a healthy blanket of 5G but many others in the US may live in an area where it doesn’t make a difference.
 

Leet Apple

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Agree that the launch was disappointing, but more because of the complete leaks just prior to the keynote. Heck, even the prices were leaked. It's like going to a theater to watch a movie and you already read the script. The production value is still great, but the content becomes boring since every major points are already spoiled.

I stopped looking at leaks years ago, took away from launch day event. The Steve Job days
 
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