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First Trailer for 'Steve Jobs: The Man in the Machine' Documentary Released
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Off topic, but the word 'set' has a huge number of meanings; the most in the English language, I think.
Feel free to set me straight if I'm wrong.
Yeah ! All we care about is Steve Jobs being the ******* that we like him to be ! Not the point of view of someone who actually knew him !
Mr Cue is rich and famous and feels it would diminish his own legacy/brand to have his visionary boss portrayed as, what he most likely was, an @-whole. Mr Jobs created so much wealth for his long time employee, Mr Cue, that, of course, he will always be a friend. In light of all the evidence Mr Cue is being silly.
He should step out to the bbq pit at his local mansion, flip some burgers, bask in the glow of family and admirers all the while grooving out to (gulp!) U2 at a high volume.
And btw, ripping off e-book customers is not the action of a nice person. Apple was found guilty and according to Time Magazine: Judge Cote found that Apple “facilitated this conspiracy and changed the face of the e-book industry.” She further found the (under oath) testimony of Apple executive Eddy Cue, who led negotiations with the publishers, “not credible” and “particularly brazen" given the evidence.
Jus 'sayin'.
He should step out to the bbq pit at his local mansion, flip some burgers, bask in the glow of family and admirers all the while grooving out to (gulp!) U2 at a high volume.
And btw, ripping off e-book customers is not the action of a nice person. Apple was found guilty and according to Time Magazine: Judge Cote found that Apple “facilitated this conspiracy and changed the face of the e-book industry.” She further found the (under oath) testimony of Apple executive Eddy Cue, who led negotiations with the publishers, “not credible” and “particularly brazen" given the evidence.
Jus 'sayin'.
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Hypothesis: If you work at a cell phone company where everyone has cameras, surely somebody will catch you on film acting like a jerk.
Experimental setup: Search YouTube for "Steve Jobs" and "jerk" or "outburst" etc.
Results: Lots of people making videos about how much of a jerk Steve was, but no clips (that I could find) to back it up. You would think that with all the videos out there stating how much of a jerk he was, the guy would be exhibiting some jerk-like behavior each time he spoke. I did find this video:
Aside from Jobs throwing the device at the guy at the beginning (let's face it, he didn't beam him with the device, it was an underhand lob), the rest of the video makes Job's "p-o'd moments" seem pretty tame. I also think this video is interesting:
I fully expected Jobs to retaliate, but his response was thoughtful and shows self-reflection.
Discussion: I do realize that cell phone cameras weren't as popular until the later days of Jobs, so we aren't going to see as many clips of him then. I also realize that if he were to be rude in a smaller group of people, that smaller group would likely not be pulling out a cell phone to video him. And of course, the Hawthorne effect can't be denied here.
Looking forward to the movie!
Experimental setup: Search YouTube for "Steve Jobs" and "jerk" or "outburst" etc.
Results: Lots of people making videos about how much of a jerk Steve was, but no clips (that I could find) to back it up. You would think that with all the videos out there stating how much of a jerk he was, the guy would be exhibiting some jerk-like behavior each time he spoke. I did find this video:
Discussion: I do realize that cell phone cameras weren't as popular until the later days of Jobs, so we aren't going to see as many clips of him then. I also realize that if he were to be rude in a smaller group of people, that smaller group would likely not be pulling out a cell phone to video him. And of course, the Hawthorne effect can't be denied here.
Looking forward to the movie!
And don't forget to share your opinion, thoughts and comments with respect.
In the bigger picture, what Steve Jobs did in his lifetime was for a greater good - but anyone around him that were on his good side and wanted to please him drank the "kool aid" and thus will only speak highly of Steve.
People like Steve are very complicated and no one can really know how they were like, really. All we can do is take things and learn from them.
Even someone like Eddie Cue didn't "really" know Steve. I bet he met him after he came back to Apple in the late 90's, and by then he was fairly mature and settled. Jobs was a complete dick when he was in his early 20's.
In any documentary, there will be a viewpoint from the filmmakers perspective so you won't get the complete picture. This documentary's director has a track record of an aggressive outlook on subject matters like Scientology. Check his other documentaries you'll get a sense of what you're getting.
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My medical school forced, ahem, "strongly advised" us to get a Mac laptop to run their crappy software back in the late 90's. I paid waaay too much for it, and the hinge broke on it within the first few months (it was a common problem with that model). I swore I'd never buy another Apple product ever again!
Witness how Hollywood operates. They don't like the facts of history so they rewrite them to suit their beliefs. Only their version of the story gets widespread dispersion. Therefore, only their version of the story is remembered and ultimately, only their version of the story is believed by future generations. This generation of Hollywood personalities is the most egregious distorter of facts to date.
Nobody is arguing that he wasn't a dick in the 80s.
However, it's just ridiculous to always present him that way even though he was a completely different person in the late 90s.
The only reason is that it make a better story, the "******* genius CEO that build one of the biggest company in the world", even though he wasn't the "******* genius" when he actually did all of that and that is one of the reason why he actually succeeded after failing miserably with NeXT.
I agree.
Even though there is lot of really smart and great peoples that made very hard and fundamental work to move computing forward, most of them are in a way "replaceable", in the sense that there is a lot of peoples with the same profile in the computer industry that would have made equivalent things eventually.
It doesn't remove anything about how important and how great they were/are, it's just how it is.
Steve Jobs, he is much more recognized and "historically" important to computing because he was not the kind of person that you normally find in this industry and was lucky enough to be in a position to drastically change the face of it.
Even if we consider other companies, most of them (Microsoft, Google (especially Android), Samsung, etc) had to "up their game" to compete. (However, without Steve Jobs, Microsoft would probably never have shipped Windows 8 with the Start Screen tiles...that would have been a bit better
)Well yeah, that's the point. He was hungry and contradicting. Geniuses usually are. I'm not using the word "Genius" in a positive sense, but I would say a complicated person who has tunnel vision and a go-getter.
He learned fast and was always on his feet, hence all the things he accomplished in his life, from personal computing, to 3d animation (Pixar), to music, whatever.
But you know, "being an *******" sells and I've worked with people like Jobs and I consider myself somewhat similar to him, but not to his extreme....anyway, they're not really *******s, they're very soft deep down inside and have a lot of empathy this is why Im saying these people are very complicated and any portrayal in a documentary is not going to give you the full picture.
Steve Jobs was a master manipulator. He was different with different people. If you were a genius, he'd put you on a pedestal. If you were below any of that, he'd treat you like poo. It's just the way it is - a product of capitalism. He is not the only one. Bill gates is the same, but I don't think he was as picky as Steve, he was more about the numbers (dollars) and volume sales of his products. Steve was out to change the world. Two different guys.
Yet, 13 years later you came here, registered and then lingered around 4 more years, to report this information...
Your post as it stands now, is the ultimate non sequitur.
Maybe if there was some hint you changed your mind and now find Apple great this post would make more sense in context.
I use Apple (-only) products for over 12 years. I have never read and watched anything about S. Jobs. I don't care for any bio about him etc. I know his name only (and that he has got a friend Steve Woźniak). The movie is a next integral part of crazy religion.
How is that, a movie like this one would be part of the religion of hating jobs, nothing else. Because there are a large group of people who seemingly hate everything Apple on principle.
Jobs had no involvement in the book other than choosing the cover and doing interviews, and nobody knows what his family thinks. The problem here may not be bias, as the book was well balanced. The problem is inaccuracy. Like I said before, the author had limited time with jobs so it's understandable how he drew his own conclusions based on what sources he managed to find in that time frame. The final conclusion was very black and white.
This summed up the Isaacson's view pretty well:
“...This attitude arose partly out of his tendency to see the world in binary terms. A person was either a hero or a bozo, a product was either amazing or s***.”
He over simplified his subject in an attempt to produce a shocking and in-depth account of Jobs's life events. I loved Isaacson's book for the facts and stories, but I'd rather trust an author that knew and interviews Jobs for over 25 years to write a more accurate account of his personality.
Could the fact that, as you mentioned, I've been around here for 4 years be an indication that I changed my mind? Lol nice post genius.
I think we would all be better off if everyone could read binary.Just a friendly reminder:
