First Trailer for 'Steve Jobs: The Man in the Machine' Documentary Released

[macsba]

Hello all;

I don't care if I get flamed for this but this is what I believe:

Yes, Steve Jobs was egomaniacal but that's what made Apple tick. Through his 'reality distortion field' he made his employees do the best in the industry and the news media swoon. Sometimes it makes a self-centered SOB to produce a company admired by a lot of people. His personal life was a complete shambles. Would love to give a hug to Laurene. His daughters are amazing. The way he treated his first daughter. I read Isaacson's book about Steve and found it to be one great heck of a read. Steve had his demons but tell you what, I respect him.

There are great companies here in the US that started by men that appeared strange to others. Like Howard Hughes for one. As Apple said in the commercials some time ago, the misfits can also create great companies.

 

[judethat]

I have a friend who worked for Apple as a salesperson a few years ago and attended a session at Infinite Loop where Steve gave a talk to the new guys and she said he was pretty tough and rude to people during that session and very straight talking but she said there was no doubt he had real charisma. I think he had a lot of different aspects to his personality and was obviously very driven. I miss his Keynotes having watched most of them over the years. Will want to see this movie.

 

[TallManNY]

I never remember Apple in the UK, but I see the price at which they launched and laugh, no one would have paid that as a consumer. We just had all these cheap stuff you hooked up to your TV and cost £100, not £1400....

First I heard of Apple was those terrible PCs they made in the late 90s, they were a laughing stock and all us Windows users were disgusted by them. Wasn't until the iPod that Apple became a thing and Macs have only recently started to become popular thanx to the iPhone and iPad.

Wrong. Apple made a lot of money off the iPod. Then Apple sold a lot of iPhones. The Mac as a PC alternative was always and has remained a fairly niche product. In fact the Mac in the 90s was actually further advanced versus PCs then the Mac is now.

 

[MH01]

Wrong. Apple made a lot of money off the iPod. Then Apple sold a lot of iPhones. The Mac as a PC alternative was always and has remained a fairly niche product. In fact the Mac in the 90s was actually further advanced versus PCs then the Mac is now.

What makes you say the PowerPC macs were superior.

Macs are PCs now. There is not advantage hardware wise.

 

[FieldingMellish]

I want to get portrait shots of myself with my head supported by my thumb.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

Didn't Isaacson actually spent several days interviewing and talking with Jobs for the purpose to write the book? Have you read the book?

Of course I've read the book.
Would you trust someone whose only been around you for a few weeks (or even some months) to write a accurate portrayal for you personality and traits? It might make for a good facts book about your life, but it would be terrible as a portrayal of you as a person.

 

[McGiord]

Of course I've read the book.
Would you trust someone whose only been around you for a few weeks (or even some months) to write a accurate portrayal for you personality and traits? It might make for a good facts book about your life, but it would be terrible as a portrayal of you as a person.

That someone is considered a professional writer in the field of biographies, much different than a random stranger. Despite this he was hired by Steve.
I guess that way the bias is minimized, when compared to an autobiography.
Who was the editor of the book?
What did Jobs family think about it, were they opposed to the book?

 

[Carlanga]

I don’t think Cue was there in the earlier years? People change throughout the years, some even more after a health diagnosis.

 

[McGiord]

I don’t think Cue was there in the earlier years? People change throughout the years, some even more after a health diagnosis.

Sure he wasn't but he was there for enough time with Steve to give his opinion based on his personal take and current interests.

 

[SactoGuy18]

I think we're missing one gigantic salient point: Steve Jobs--like every American business titan since (arguably) the first, Cornelius Vanderbilt--had to act ruthless to not only his competitors, but sometimes the titan's friends, in order to get ahead. What Jobs did was nothing compared to the sometimes extreme ruthlessness of John D. Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie, J. P. Morgan, James Buchanan Duke, and Henry Ford in amassing their power and fortune.

In short, the story of Steve Jobs is a very complex one--a ruthless leader at times, but one who made computer technology accessible to most of us. In effect, it was Jobs' shepherding of the development of the iPhone that made it possible to create the portable computing/communications device predicted for decades by science fiction authors.

 

[Lennholm]

From a cult point of view maybe. Though I would think Scientology is more appropriate comparison.

Apple will never get the user base big J has

You just proved his point, scientology and christianity are fundamentally the same thing.

 

[Sinstar33]

*amused*

I've always thought that if the "ghost in the machine" were ever to actually exist, that it would absolutely be Steve Jobs. It makes perfect sense if you really think about it.

 

[Carlanga]

Sure he wasn't but he was there for enough time with Steve to give his opinion based on his personal take and current interests.

older steve is not the same as old steve though.

 

[Keirasplace]

As for Eddie Cue's response, the thing is, as with all people, those around you have different views about you based on their own experiences. For Eddie to come out and attack this documentary is simply blindly holding on to what his lasting impression is of Jobs. I personally liked Isaacson's book and found it neutral. Even Woz wouldn't have a full. rounded picture of Jobs as he and Jobs parted ways for several years (and having been personally burned by him). Even Job's wife would have a totally different view of the man.

Its not neutral because weirdly, they "forgot" the last 10 years of his life (15+ for this documentary) and most of his current collaborator. Considering those last years were the more significant and how much he was different from his earlier years, they seems to be pushing an agenda by not including them.

 

[Keirasplace]

the waterfall effect is being exaggerated here,
also, programs would have been invented, operating systems would have been invented, languages would have been invented. Steve jobs isn't praised as being an inventor, but as someone who pushed people to invent, or innovate

Jobs was essentially a catalyst, someone absolutely essential, but even without him something would have occured, but slower and not in the same way (possibly a worse way).

 

[Tsuchiya]

What did Jobs's non employee friends and family say about the book?

After its release? Unsure. Bloomberg covered the executive teams public dismissal of the Isaacson book, but it was noted that Apple didn't make anyone available for further comment. Including Laurene Powell Jobs.

A lot of people were interviewed for the book, and if Isaacson had taken what they said out of context, or had grossly misrepresented what they had said, there would have been more of a ruckus.

As it stands, it seems the higher ups at Apple aren't too happy about anyone discussing Steve without the rose coloured glasses. Also the fact that a movie based on the book is on the cards must make them uncomfortable. They effectively have no creative control over the movie, and because it is a little more high profile than the Kutcher movie, it'll have a greater impact on their reputation.

 

[MH01]

You just proved his point, scientology and christianity are fundamentally the same thing.

Key word is cult , in case u missed it!!

 

[Lennholm]

Key word is cult , in case u missed it!!

There's no actual difference between a cult and organized religion. Only the members of a cult delude themselves into believing that theirs in particular isn't one.

 

[McGiord]

older steve is not the same as old steve though.

It was the same person, obviously learned some good lessons and matured, as with anyone there were some of his behaviors that stayed the same.

 

[rishiomedia]

Fast forward to 27seconds in the trailer. Jobs is wearing the Apple Watch:

 

[Arran]

Another movie? I haven't even seen the first.

It's becoming it's own genre:

• Westerns
• Drama
• Crime
• Comedy
• Steve Jobs
• Action and Adventure
• Children's
• ...

 

[MH01]

There's no actual difference between a cult and organized religion. Only the members of a cult delude themselves into believing that theirs in particular isn't one.

Sure if that makes u feel better about it. Though this is off topic now.

 

[dysamoria]

Cue the people dismissing character flaws and unethical (or cruel) behavior "because multibillion dollar company".

Of course the executives close to Jobs will have issues seeing all sides of the man. If you're a jerk, you still can possibly know who to butter up and who you can get away with being a dick to.

 

[dysamoria]

There's no actual difference between a cult and organized religion. Only the members of a cult delude themselves into believing that theirs in particular isn't one.

Spot on. Good for you knowing and stating it. [thumbs up]

 

[spinedoc77]

In short, the story of Steve Jobs is a very complex one--a ruthless leader at times, but one who made computer technology accessible to most of us. In effect, it was Jobs' shepherding of the development of the iPhone that made it possible to create the portable computing/communications device predicted for decades by science fiction authors.

We had those devices long before the iPhone. Smartphones were already starting to get popular, the iPhone was released at an absolutely perfect time. Apple accelerated the paradigm with the iPhone since it became so popular, but its technology nor its OS was particularly advanced versus what was out there IMO. The smartphone market would have become dominant even if Apple never existed, just a bit slower.