I hope. I don’t have a 21:9 tv but do have a computer monitor and would love to try it out.
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d5aqoëp
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ThatGuyInLa
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“… skip HFR” >>Thank God? <<
Then you must not understand how it could help eliminate HDMI handshaking issues. It has nothing to do with making things look like the “soap opera” effect, or gaming needs. As some seem to dismiss it as.
It does do bitsteam Dolby Atmos? My sound system receives the sound from the TV via eARC and will display the sound source as Atmos when the content is of that format.
Three wishes:
1. Fix profiles. There should be an option to have a log-in screen every time the device wakes up - like many streaming services do. Have an option for pin codes as well, to protect adult accounts - and an age setting for child accounts. Make the accounts work, so that if you open e.g. pictures, youtube, netflix, apple tv+ etc they open with the right account.
2. AI upscaling.
3. Allow game streaming apps, like Nvidia GeForce Now and gamepass.
1. Fix profiles. There should be an option to have a log-in screen every time the device wakes up - like many streaming services do. Have an option for pin codes as well, to protect adult accounts - and an age setting for child accounts. Make the accounts work, so that if you open e.g. pictures, youtube, netflix, apple tv+ etc they open with the right account.
2. AI upscaling.
3. Allow game streaming apps, like Nvidia GeForce Now and gamepass.
bebarhood
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Will the "enhanced dialogue" feature be available in all streaming apps or just Apple TV+?
My issue when watching a movie/tv show is that the dialogue audio is always low, while the action sequences are always loud. There is no balance between the two.
FYI, I am using a soundbar with no rear speakers.
My issue when watching a movie/tv show is that the dialogue audio is always low, while the action sequences are always loud. There is no balance between the two.
FYI, I am using a soundbar with no rear speakers.
I don’t really understand the point of Apple TV anymore. Dont most TVs have all this functionality built in without buying an additional piece of hardware?
Are you sure that’s Dolby TrueHD Atmos and not Dolby Digital+ with Atmos? The latter carries only a portion of the information of the first.
Well a tv is a little more expensive than a media player 😛
I have an “older” oled tv with amazing image but no support for a lot of modern audio codecs. It doesn’t even support eARC. Its imagine quality is good enough to not have to replace it for many years so I use an Nvidia Shield Pro for streaming services, games and my own files with full audio support.
An AppleTV doesn’t yet support all audio, but it does have FaceTime which you won’t find on a tv, it has the Fitness+ app too, Apple Arcade with controller support and stuff, I think the remote is infinitely better than a Shield’s (and you can use your phone if you’d like), and I’m sure it can even offer more. I think it’s a pretty neat device but for my use so far the Shield is better since it does support all audio.
CharlesShaw
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I'm still using a plasma TV from 2012 and I'm very happy that ATV exists. And If I outlive this TV, I will still prefer connecting the ATV to the Internet and my local network instead of the new television.
I would love to be able to connect/disconnect my Bluetooth Headphones more easily.
There had been Suggestions / Tests in previous iOS 17.x Betas but they never made it to release.
I am also looking forward to a new Apple TV
with Bluetooth 5.2/5.3 for BT LE Audio
to better interface with Hearing Aid Devices.
And would love to see the Issue fixed, that the Bluetooth connected Headphones get disconnected when the AppleTV gets turned off - at present, they stay connected & you can engage with Apple Music to listen to seemingly random Music Tracks, controlled via the Buttons on your Headphones.
But also would love to see more Memory, that can be allocated + used by Games,
not a big Fan of AI,
I rather would like to see being able to save / run Keynotes on AppleTV as Digitial Signage Player,
rather than having to stream it off an iCloud Account.
There had been Suggestions / Tests in previous iOS 17.x Betas but they never made it to release.
I am also looking forward to a new Apple TV
with Bluetooth 5.2/5.3 for BT LE Audio
to better interface with Hearing Aid Devices.
And would love to see the Issue fixed, that the Bluetooth connected Headphones get disconnected when the AppleTV gets turned off - at present, they stay connected & you can engage with Apple Music to listen to seemingly random Music Tracks, controlled via the Buttons on your Headphones.
But also would love to see more Memory, that can be allocated + used by Games,
not a big Fan of AI,
I rather would like to see being able to save / run Keynotes on AppleTV as Digitial Signage Player,
rather than having to stream it off an iCloud Account.
A great call. Parental control and a screen time right now seems like a token item right now. No where near fit for purpose.
The amount of time screen time goes down and is not visible.
As far as I know, we aren't able to see the kids emails on our phones unless we set up their account on our phones. Google I believe has this function.
I'd love to have alerts when they go over a certain amount of time on their phones without setting limits.
And a few more things too I'm sure.
I just want the ability to default audio output to airplay / Sonos the way it can do it with Homepod. Another release, another fail.
Am one of the fortunate and grateful folk who does have a fairly decent home theatre and a projector, with an anamorphic lens and a 2.35:1 ratio screen. Whenever I engage my lens and run in anamorphic mode, the Apple TV interface's top and bottom are cropped off my screen.
So having this new mode will actually be handy for the times when I leave my projector/lens in the 2.35:1 setup, which is probably 75% of the time. It's only some TV shows that are still in 16:9 and most new shows that I watch are using the anamorphic format these days.
Actually - on that note - I wonder how long it will be before the 'standard' ratio for TVs becomes 2.35:1 instead of 16:9, given the fact that MOST movies and many TV shows are now in that format? Seems like the same situation we were in back when 4:3 TVs were the norm and tons of movies and shows were in 16:9 format. Nobody wants black bars!
It also seems like a hell of a waste of pixels at the moment, when you consider that a large chunk of your display is used for rendering black bars. So you only really get that "4K" horizontal resolution, but your vertical resolution is round 1608 pixels rather than 2160 pixels. (4096 x 1716 pixels) if you want to be speaking DCI/cinema language.
So having this new mode will actually be handy for the times when I leave my projector/lens in the 2.35:1 setup, which is probably 75% of the time. It's only some TV shows that are still in 16:9 and most new shows that I watch are using the anamorphic format these days.
Actually - on that note - I wonder how long it will be before the 'standard' ratio for TVs becomes 2.35:1 instead of 16:9, given the fact that MOST movies and many TV shows are now in that format? Seems like the same situation we were in back when 4:3 TVs were the norm and tons of movies and shows were in 16:9 format. Nobody wants black bars!
It also seems like a hell of a waste of pixels at the moment, when you consider that a large chunk of your display is used for rendering black bars. So you only really get that "4K" horizontal resolution, but your vertical resolution is round 1608 pixels rather than 2160 pixels. (4096 x 1716 pixels) if you want to be speaking DCI/cinema language.
My projector is natively 4096 x 2160. That's the technical 4K resolution. Home "UHD" 4K is 3840 x 2160 pixels 16x9 ratio.
Most movies and TV shows are in a wider format than 16x9, and this format known as cinemascope or anamorphic is roughly a ratio of 2.35:1 or "21x9" as it is known in computer land.
This basically means you have black bars at the top and bottom of your movie on a normal shaped TV/screen.
SOME people actually have a projection screen that is in that wider format of 21x9.
Then they use some features of their projector to do one of two things.
1. They "zoom" the picture so that they fill up their wider screen with the wider image of the movie they are watching, essentially pushing the 'black bars' off the top and bottom of their screen. Or...
2. When projecting a 16x9 standard image on their wider screen, they actually have black bars on the left and right of their picture because their screen is too wide. When. they want to watch a movie in that wider format, they enable a special mode on their projector that takes the video signal and stretches it vertically to make it 33% taller than it needs to be. It makes the image look all thin and stretched tall.
This basically makes the projector's image sensor use ALL the available pixels to project the image and NOT waste the pixels projecting the black bars. This does involve duplicating and stretching some of the movie's pixels although good projectors do a great job of this.
THEN, a lens is slid in front of the projector's main lens which then stretches the image in the other direction to make it WIDER to fill the wider screen, and returning the image to it's normal appearance rather than looking stretched.
The benefit? You get a larger image that fills the screen without having to move the projector or use more zoom, AND you get the benefit of using all of the available pixels to render the light/colour image rather than wasting them on black bars. This is the setup I have.
Of course, the Apple TV interface doesn't have black bars at the top and bottom of it as it is presented in 16x9 ratio. So this new mode will essentially render the AppleTV interface with black bars at the top and bottom with the interface occupying around 3840 x 1608 pixels (of the available 2160 vertical pixels).
I wonder if "Insight" feature will be connected to Apple Music to add the music from the movie. Most movie soundtracks might not be on Apple Music because of artist copyright or would it be linked to Artist album that has that song from the movie.
Movies like Pi𝜋 soundtrack would it redirect to purchasing the CD such as Amazon because that is neither on iTunes store or Apple Music.
Movies like Pi𝜋 soundtrack would it redirect to purchasing the CD such as Amazon because that is neither on iTunes store or Apple Music.
d5aqoëp
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That's lossy ATMOS unfortunately. I used the movie called Ready Player One BlueRay for reference. I also sourced a same copy with lossy ATMOS. The original blueray with lossless ATMOS sounds more dynamic and I can feel my speakers and Denon Receiver really working at their best to produce Crisp Treble and Tight bass. With lossy ATMOS, the sound does feel compressed with harsh treble and flabby bass. You will know when you do side by side comparison on a good Speaker system.
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That's disappointing, I never knew that 🙁 but can tell Atmos on blu rays sounds way better. I wonder if the new Google streamer does it? I do like the home features they were showing but would really like to have real deal audio.
BuddyRich
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If you don't care you can at least get lossless TrueHD or DTS-HD converted to LPCM 5.1/7.1 from TrueHD Atmos or DTS:X tracks via Plex. it does drop the Atmos Height metadata but it is otherwise the full TrueHD multichannel.
Baron Thompson
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Baron Thompson
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Baron Thompson
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Came here to say exactly this. That mans super human hearing just highlights my increasing deafness.
Baron Thompson
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They have apps but they’re slow, riddled with ads, dont get updates and sell your data. I take an old Apple TV to hotels with me because I’m sick of the terrible user interface amongst other things.