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Five New iPhone Features Rumored for iOS 27

ifxf said:
So 27 will fix everything 26.4 will break with new Apple’s AI and Siri.
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Gurman has been radio silent about 26.4 since the Gemini $1b contract. Wouldn't be surprised if they just started work on it now and it slips to 27.0b

I also don't believe it can be both a Snow Leopard update and introduce multitasking to iPhone to support a folding phone. That is bound to introduce a whole bunch of new bugs. With all the focus on AI and folding, 28.0 will be the best chance at a Snow Leopard. 27 is likely to be the buggiest OS to date.
 
Honestly, ever since Tim really took over and ran out of Steve Jobs ideas, you think the corporate overloads will stop doing their job of managing stuff and leading to new communication breakdowns and rushed out features to start recouping cost?

Maybe if they spin off a group to stabilize the current code base, but likely they'll find gaps and need to get features developed...and so the cycle of bad communication continues. Then you also have 2 or more code bases (and this is very gross simplification), that need to be kept up to date syncing code between the two. Hopefully Apple has modularized their components and closely coupled things, or they have fallbacks/versioned interfaces to mitigate bugs.

On top of that, I'm sure Liquid Glass at a pure organizational level will take on some changes and possibly have some reverts to things such as how the Split View works or heck even the tab bar.

Not to mention someone will likely make some wrappers of SwiftUI's code and bring additional UIKit functionality...

...all though I'd love if Apple basically made some sort of @Injectable framework, and basically steal dagger.

Okay enough ranting, back to coding...
 
ItsASpider said:
Don't we get the "Snow Leopard update" rumor practically every year? It feels more like wishful thinking.
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Snow leopard itself was wishful thinking, or at least extreme rose tinted glasses looking.
It cut off almost all computers that weren’t even three years discontinued at its release, it launched with an absolutely nasty bug that erased people’s home folders if they so happened to log out, and on initial release it was significantly buggier than Leopard 10.5.8.
People are not remembering snow leopard as it launched, they are remembering it as it was two years later.
The update people really should be referencing is Mavericks, that was really the “fix bugs and fix weirdness” update. It’s supported all of the same computers The previous update supported, added tons of memory enhancements to help with performance, advertise an extra hour or two of battery life on all Apple portables, cut back on some of the more controversial aspects of Lion and Mountain Lion like the gray linen and the leather calendar, and added proper multi display support.
 
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HouseLannister said:
I also don't believe it can be both a Snow Leopard update and introduce multitasking to iPhone to support a folding phone. That is bound to introduce a whole bunch of new bugs.
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Why? Presumably enabling multitasking on the folding iPhone is probably going to be one of their easiest jobs of the year, given that iOS and iPadOS are fundamentally the exact same operating system.
They run the same code, have the same interface, use the same system libraries, everything down to the build number is identical.
Having multitasking when the device is unfolded is nothing but a feature flag enabled for Apple’s devs.
We have even seen iPad functionality on the iPhone before, remember the iPhone 6 era when the home screen and most default applications would run in landscape mode?
 
Lounge vibes 05 said:
Why? Presumably enabling multitasking on the folding iPhone is probably going to be one of their easiest jobs of the year, given that iOS and iPadOS are fundamentally the exact same operating system.
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And do you want an iPadOS 26 menu bar and those traffic lights on a small screen like a folding phone? Would there be window resizing like iPadOS? Most of these interface elements are already too small for fingers and only work as well as they do because we are using Magic Keyboards. Do we get the iPadOS dock too? Is that only for the inner screen or somehow shrunk for the outer screen when closed. And what happens when you have an app open on one screen and then close or open the device: are you back on the homescreen or does the app you have open adjust to the new size? Is a slideover app on the inner screen still accessible on the outer screen? Can you splitscreen the outer screen like you have been able to do on Android since 2016? Seems like they have a lot to figure out and have a lot of opportunity to break stuff. I expect a lot of apps just to look wrong, touch targets and other elements getting hidden or becoming nonfunctional, buttons and menus having weird sizing and spacing issues. It won't be a crashy mess, but it will still feel very alpha because Apple hasn't taken the time to respond to feedback and adjust.

We have all seen this cycle before. Apple puts out a beta in June, maybe makes a small adjustment or two based on whatever bad press they get from the media, but never listens to beta tester feedback until months later. The simplest fixes are usually not done until x.2 or later. They are just too into their crunch culture and feel like they have to have a new OS and a new phone every September. It's never worked, but the sales figures show them it "is" working, so they will never change.
 
HouseLannister said:
And do you want an iPadOS 26 menu bar and those traffic lights on a small screen like a folding phone?
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I mean, they are already on the iPad mini so…yeah.
Even the 4X3 Mini5, which has a screen apparently only 0.1 inches bigger than the folding phone will have, still gets the traffic lights and menu bar.
 
Lounge vibes 05 said:
I mean, they are already on the iPad mini so…yeah.
Even the 4X3 Mini5, which has a screen apparently only 0.1 inches bigger than the folding phone will have, still gets the traffic lights and menu bar.
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And then you shut the phone and it is half that size. Does that menu bar go away and you are back in iPhone single app mode? Or do you get an even smaller menu bar? I don't claim to have all the answers, but I see the design challenges and do not think they will have it all figured out by September.
 
It’s very unlikely that Apple will do much to fix Liquid Glass in iOS 27 but it will be interesting to see what direction the new leadership is going to take

My personal guess is they will do what they did with iOS 7, they’ll slowly walk back some of the most egregious decisions over the next years and quietly drop some of the worst ideas when people stop paying attention so they don’t have to admit they messed up

I just hope the first batch of changes includes ditching all those icons in menu items
 
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Haiku_Oezu said:
It’s very unlikely that Apple will do much to fix Liquid Glass in iOS 27 but it will be interesting to see what direction the new leadership is going to take

My personal guess is they will do what they did with iOS 7, they’ll slowly walk back some of the most egregious decisions over the next years and quietly drop some of the worst ideas when people stop paying attention so they don’t have to admit they messed up

I just hope the first batch of changes includes ditching all those icons in menu items
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I know dozens of people with iphones. The only time I hear anyone complain about anything with liquid glass is on this board. Even then, it's not a universal opinion that they messed up. I think many of you have opinions that are too strong and you falsely assume that this is the opinion of the masses. Maybe I'm wrong.
 
UltimaKilo said:
A “Snow Leopard” style update would be incredibly welcome as it was with Snow Leopard back then.
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And by that you mean a release as buggy as the previous ones, that some users reverted and took about a year to become the mythical Snow Leopard we all remember?
 
they don't need to do too much but fix the bugs people are having. i imagine we will see windowing for the fold and bring spilt screen multitasking
 
I was never one of those old school "Snow Leopard Forever" holdouts, but I do get the devotion (it was very good), so I'm curious about this framing. It would be nice to see some focus on fixes and optimizations, and it might give audio developers the chance to update their software/plugins to hit a relatively stationary target for a change.
 
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I really hope 27 turns out to be a "snow leopard" moment in time. They're at almost the same point in a transition from one hardware architecture to another as they were back then so it totally makes sense to clean things up now. Unfortunately 10.6 was followed by 10.7 Lion, one of the worst releases ever. Mountain Lion was an improvement, but increased memory usage by almost 50% in the process. It took 10.9 to get the bloat under control. By then sticking with 10.6 was a risky option and not possible with newer hardware. That's not history I want to see repeated ever again.
 
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t0rqx said:
The engineers have been working on iOS26 for 1.5 years now. Reading all the comments they cannot fix basic animations or have the liquid design glass language applied though out the whole OS...in at least 1.5 years.
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Working on something and that something being released hand-in-hand with other somethings while you expected to have more time or at least a heads up is a different thing.
 
BuffaloTF said:
I found the exact opposite true. Looked like garbage in all the photos and videos I watched, but a fantastic user experience actually using it.
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Fantastic? lol somebody doesn’t use their devices a lot.
Cool and flashy, maybe. Interesting, definitely. Fan-fckng-tastic? Na ah.
 

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Parowdy said:
Fantastic? lol somebody doesn’t use their devices a lot.
Cool and flashy, maybe. Interesting, definitely. Fan-fckng-tastic? Na ah.
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My weekly report says I average 8 hours a day… I basically live on it for work. Take my emails through it… conference calls… yes - fantastic.
 
If we get an actual Snow Leopard style update for Mac I will be so happy. Even the iPad needs it with the multitasking stuff. I finally turned off all that window crap the other day and my M1 iPad Pro with 16GB memory finally stopped lagging constantly. I mean it’s older but it’s no slouch for an iPad!

But the Mac really needs it, and that’s where I pay my bills. So many little things everywhere and also big bugs that are so annoying and then will just go away for a while and come back.
 
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Can they please revert Siri's damned chipper and smirking tone of voice.
 
They’ve got to get rid of liquid glass or at least a toggle switch. Siri has never been smart. Just give us native ChatGPT. I welcome several of the menu and button placement changes but then have to deal with liquid glass. It’s like people are making this software that never use it on a daily basis or something.
 
iOS 27 will be the deciding factor for whether or not I stay with iPhone
 
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