no, different metrics often give different results - the key is your application needs ( personally I've always been concerned with FLOPS comparison which I suspect in the 2.1 times faster metric)It says the M5 is 6x improvement over the M1 CPU/GPU but the number show just a little over twice. Am i reading that wrong?
Yeah the M1 MBA was an incredible little machine, still using that and an M1 iMac, though I do have an M2 pro mini for more demanding tasksThe (base) M1 MBA is amazing. The M5's numbers are impressive, but aside from "using" the CPU and GPU I don't do any of the other things listed. That's why I'm typing this from my (base) M1 MBA with no plans to upgrade. (I can wait till the MBA gets an OLED display. 🤤 )
This made me curious for some real world results. In this case compiling code since that's what I tend to do. Here's a result I found doing a search:no, different metrics often give different results - the key is your application needs ( personally I've always been concerned with FLOPS comparison which I suspect in the 2.1 times faster metric)
| Chip | Test/Workload | Time | Comparison Notes | Source |
| M4 Pro | Firefox codebase build (Xcode 16) | 10m 53s | 11% faster than M3 Pro, 33% faster than M1 Pro | |
| M3 Pro | Firefox codebase build (Xcode 16) | 12m 16s | 7% faster than M2 Pro, 24% faster than M1 Pro | |
| M2 Pro | Firefox codebase build (Xcode 16) | 13m 10s | 19% faster than M1 Pro | |
| M1 Pro | Firefox codebase build (Xcode 16) | 16m 16s | Baseline for Pro models | |
| M4 (Base) | Xcode Benchmark build | 141s | 45% faster than M1 base | |
| M1 (Base) | Xcode Benchmark build | 258s | Baseline for base models |
What about power consumption and battery life?
Please, tell us more Mr. Computer Man. Look at my avatar, that's how eager I am to read.
6x faster CPU/GPU performance
There are five lightsM1 multi-core - 8,175
M5 multi-core - 17,862
I needed better battery life and less heat. I think I was more impressed picking up an M1 MBP over the highest spec Intel MBP than I was going from the highest level PowerBook to a then highest level Intel MBPDoes anybody need faster than an Intel Mac?
Pretty sure you mean 2x CPU/GPU not 6x. 6x would be massive news.
Today marks the fifth anniversary of the Apple silicon chip that replaced Intel chips in Apple's Mac lineup. The first Apple silicon chip, the M1, was unveiled on November 10, 2020. The M1 debuted in the MacBook Air, Mac mini, and 13-inch MacBook Pro.
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The M1 chip was impressive when it launched, featuring the "world's fastest CPU core" and industry-leading performance per watt, and it's only improved since then. We've had five total generations of Apple silicon chips, with the M5 unveiled in the 14-inch MacBook Pro just last month.
Here's how the M5 measures up to the M1, per Apple's M5 specs:
Geekbench comparison scores:
- 6x faster CPU/GPU performance
- 6x faster AI performance
- 7.7x faster AI video processing
- 6.8x faster 3D rendering
- 2.6x faster gaming performance
- 2.1x faster code compiling
Both CPU and GPU performance have increased significantly over the past five years, and Apple has boosted AI and gaming performance too with add-ons like hardware-accelerated ray tracing and an ever-improving Neural Engine.
- M1 single-core - 2,320
- M5 single-core - 4,263
- M1 multi-core - 8,175
- M5 multi-core - 17,862
- M1 Metal - 33,041
- M5 Metal - 75,637
M1 Chip M5 Chip Made with TSMC's 5nm process (N5) Made TSMC's third-generation 3nm process (N3P) Based on A14 Bionic Pro chip from iPhone 12 Based on A19 Pro chip from iPhone 17 Pro 8-core CPU, 8-core GPU 10-core CPU, 10-core GPU 3.2 GHz CPU clock speed 4.61 GHz CPU clock speed No integrated Neural Accelerators Integrated Neural Accelerator in every GPU core No ray tracing engine Third-generation ray tracing engine No dynamic caching Second-generation dynamic caching Support for up to 16GB unified memory Support for up to 32GB unified memory 68.25 GB/s unified memory bandwidth 153 GB/s unified memory bandwidth
Apple sold Apple silicon Macs alongside Intel Macs for three years, but phased out the final Intel Mac in June 2023 when the 2019 Mac Pro was discontinued. Now all of Apple's devices have Apple chips, and we're even hitting the end of the road for Intel Mac software support. Intel Macs won't get software updates after macOS Tahoe.
Over the next five years, Apple silicon chip technology will continue to evolve. Apple supplier TSMC is already working on 2nm chips that could make an appearance as soon as 2026, offering a 10 to 15 percent speed improvement and a 25 to 30 percent power reduction. 1.4nm chips could follow as soon as 2028 for even more power and efficiency.
Article Link: Five Years of Apple Silicon: M1 to M5 Performance Comparison
The only thing on your list that really matters to me is the 1st thing!The performance of Apple Silicon is very impressive, but it is not the reason I will be upgrading to new systems as a main driver, as the performance of the M1 Max is still very strong. I am looking for the following:
- Double the storage/ram for the same price (I know good luck...lol...)...and fast storage
- OLED in Macbook Pro
- Cellular in the MacBook lineup
- FaceID (what is taking so long!!!!)
- > 32" Studio Display or iMac with 120hz and at least mini-led
- Touchscreen (although not a need but it will be cool)
- Thinner 14" MBP (I actually wouldn't mind no HDMI for another Thunderbolt port but I know others would)
- If the new monitors require Thunderbolt 5 which they likely will, I will probably upgrade for that
- Wifi 7 and Bluetooth 6
- Would also love a new take on an ultraportable with an OLED screen ala the old 12" Macbook
* RAM and storage limits (some of which were my fault since I bought enough, but not enough of course) will get me to upgrade way before the performance of the M1/M2 lineup feels not performant enough.
That said, Apple Silicon has been AMAZING and the overall best thing for the Mac in a very long time.
Yes…I thought the same.This post feels like an Apple marketing stunt to prompt M1 owners to upgrade in the wake of Liquid Glass as a tactic to slow down older Apple Silicon with unnecessary ******** 3D effects.
When my wife’s Dell fan kicks on under light use, I laugh. It’s not loud, it’s just on my M1Pro 16”, the fan has turned one audibly once in 4 years, and that was under a very heavy load and I had accidentally left a sheet of paper covering the entire keyboard.The only company I can think of is Nvidia in that time frame for a performance jump similar to Apple in relation to GPU, BUT certainly not efficiency .
Intel, AMD and Qaulcomm haven’t come close to what Apple has done in that same time frame. Both of you are right .
I think the poster for that claim about Intel, AMD, Nvidia and Qualcomm is joking, or they are from another dimension 🤣🤪
OS26 is SOOOO bad as an interface it is frightening. The fact they are now helping you turn some of it off is a black eye for them.I loved the Intel Macs because of the ability to run native intel Windows and Linux which allows me run third party programs not available on the Mac. Apple ditching Intel along with locking down the OS with each release plus the 26 version making lots of text illegible is making me think my next machine will be from a Windows hardware provider.
Not in a laptop chip. AMD is close though. Intel has very power efficient chips that are dog slow (the N100) and screaming fast chips at the power levels you won't find in a laptop.During the same time period, all other competitors, Intel, AMD, Nvidia, Qualcomm and MediaTek, have achieved a MUCH MUCH larger performance jump than Apple.
I kind of doubt that. It's all about the memory and/or the SSD capacity, especially when you consider VST usage.Music Producers still swear by the M1 vs any other chip since. Boggles the mind that his is the case. It is the way digital audio workstations utilize the cores, I believe. Why Apple?
If that battery is getting hot, you might want to consider having it replaced. Hot battery that's 13 years old is asking for a house fire.My 2012 MBP is doing fine as wellOf course gets hot sometimes and battery is dead but for my needs...
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I agree, especially with the use of performance and efficiency cores under varying workloads. Intel missed the boat on that one.5 years already and it’s felt like a white knuckle racing rollercoaster the entire time. The sheer performance of the M1 and then the continuous stacking boost each year since has been insane. Biggest shakeup to CPUs since the x86-64 hit the scene.
If we can rename the Gulf of America, we can rename anything. Of course, "Washington Commanders" is proof that we won't always exercise the best taste.It's unfortunate that Apple went with the name "Apple silicon" since moving away from silicon as a material may be the next big leap. Silicon Valley would also need to be renamed. 🤣
Heat and noise bothers me. Not looking forward to finally upgrading my 9th gen i9 windows laptop.I needed better battery life and less heat. I think I was more impressed picking up an M1 MBP over the highest spec Intel MBP than I was going from the highest level PowerBook to a then highest level Intel MBP
It's possible that you're right about that!I even wonder if Apple would even be relevant today without Apple Silicon. I kinda doubt it.