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'Flappy Bird' Removed from App Store by Developer
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LadyX
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'Flappy Bird' Removed from App Store by Developer
I don't get why this game (Candy Crush) is so popular as well. I've played it once just to see and got bored real quick 😕
I don't get why this game (Candy Crush) is so popular as well. I've played it once just to see and got bored real quick 😕
I voiced an opinion, you may not like that opinion but that's fine. I think a guy whining about getting attention while making a ton of money while others starve is the real disgrace.
In today's age it's so easy NOT to be "known" yet the guy whines about how hard his life is..... I'll bet there are tons of very poor people in his country that would LOVE to have 1% of his "problems".
I do love how he let every one know it would be taken down a day before it was..... wonder if that was so he could avoid more "attention"?
Agree.
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Some logical thoughts
I've registered to post on the macrumors forum just to respond to this post, because there's so many crazy thoughts here that I felt strongly about responding to. I think many people on the forums are looking at this through their own tinted goggles, and may not see some of the realities that the rest of the world goes through.
First, some argue that money is most important, and the developer was stupid to let it go. On the other hand, many argue that the American values of getting rich are shallow and privacy are much better valued. No one really thought about what are the possible values that the developer may be operating under. My own understanding is that in certain Asian countries, yes money and fame are very much valued, and privacy is not valued as much. And I think Vietnam is one of those countries. Both privacy and charity are mostly western values and not as common in most Asian countries, so I'm sure Nguyen was happy to have it to begin with.
However, we should also look at the realities of a country where there still exist a large fraction of the population who is still very poor. He is not living in Silicon Valley in a gated community. It's most likely not as simple as just changing his email and social media handles and getting off the Internet. Most posters in this forum simply don't understand the crime situation outside their protected neighborhoods, especially organized crime. Many countries have bigger forces at work such as triads or massively organized gangs who keep an eye out on who's doing well lately, and can easily "persuade" you to do things. "Attention" might not just be threats on Twitter, and instead be actual knocking on his door from triads wanting a piece of the cake.
That's my guess as to what "attention" he was getting. Given the choice of giving up a large sum of money, or having that money but living in fear of endangering the lives of yourself and your loved ones, the choice is pretty clear. In that case it would be beneficial to him to publicly declare that he's giving up on the app, so that those around him would know as well he's no longer as successful.
There's no way to know for sure at the moment, but my guess is that he enjoyed making money, but bigger forces were at work to force him to give up that money, that being either greed or jealousy from organized crime groups being one possibility.
In many countries that's the reality of life. You want to be very successful so you can live well, but not too successful to attract unwanted attention that can endanger you and your family.
I've registered to post on the macrumors forum just to respond to this post, because there's so many crazy thoughts here that I felt strongly about responding to. I think many people on the forums are looking at this through their own tinted goggles, and may not see some of the realities that the rest of the world goes through.
First, some argue that money is most important, and the developer was stupid to let it go. On the other hand, many argue that the American values of getting rich are shallow and privacy are much better valued. No one really thought about what are the possible values that the developer may be operating under. My own understanding is that in certain Asian countries, yes money and fame are very much valued, and privacy is not valued as much. And I think Vietnam is one of those countries. Both privacy and charity are mostly western values and not as common in most Asian countries, so I'm sure Nguyen was happy to have it to begin with.
However, we should also look at the realities of a country where there still exist a large fraction of the population who is still very poor. He is not living in Silicon Valley in a gated community. It's most likely not as simple as just changing his email and social media handles and getting off the Internet. Most posters in this forum simply don't understand the crime situation outside their protected neighborhoods, especially organized crime. Many countries have bigger forces at work such as triads or massively organized gangs who keep an eye out on who's doing well lately, and can easily "persuade" you to do things. "Attention" might not just be threats on Twitter, and instead be actual knocking on his door from triads wanting a piece of the cake.
That's my guess as to what "attention" he was getting. Given the choice of giving up a large sum of money, or having that money but living in fear of endangering the lives of yourself and your loved ones, the choice is pretty clear. In that case it would be beneficial to him to publicly declare that he's giving up on the app, so that those around him would know as well he's no longer as successful.
There's no way to know for sure at the moment, but my guess is that he enjoyed making money, but bigger forces were at work to force him to give up that money, that being either greed or jealousy from organized crime groups being one possibility.
In many countries that's the reality of life. You want to be very successful so you can live well, but not too successful to attract unwanted attention that can endanger you and your family.
Thanks for the info. Didn't know about that!
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Thank you very much for letting us all understand the situation he's in. I did not really know until now and I totally respect his decision to remove the game and live peacefully and safely.
Dontazemebro
macrumors 68020
So he was only making $2.35 a day?
Makes more sense now. The sensationalism of this app is ridiculous.
You've just described the problem with 99% of the drivel on line. There's the 1% who troll just to troll. Then the rest don't realize the world doesn't revolve around their ideals, thoughts, values, etc. Those can be then divided into: Live and Let Live, or, Self-Righteous Indignation with heaps of scorn.
This last camp is where the deplorable last rant from AFdoc falls. I hope you're not an Air Force doctor with that outlook. Service Before Self would apply here. This is why I really think everyone in the US should be forced to live abroad for at least 1-2 years of their life. Come to realize there's a whole world out there that: A) Does cool stuff B) Doesn't give a rat$ azz about the US but does like our music/movies and C) How millions would love to have the luxuries, rights, promise, aspirations, and opportunities we take for granted in the US. It's not a joke people would hurt you in other countries for things we take for granted or throw away in the US.
And to keep it on-topic, perhaps this is where the Flappy Bird guy's mental landscape looks like. People gravitate towards people with sudden riches. Want to start hearing about all the best business ideas in the world? Win the lottery.... or create an app making a publicly reported $50k a day. "Hey, help me with my car payment!" "Buy me a car, you make twice what it costs in one day doing nothing." "My uncle is being held hostage, please don't let my uncle die!"
Afterawhile I'm sure more people would say, "OK, I'm done with this silliness." Sorta like child actors who drop out of sight. The sudden fame or money can engulf and overwhelm. Of course, I'm speculating, but note I'm not judging him either.
This last camp is where the deplorable last rant from AFdoc falls. I hope you're not an Air Force doctor with that outlook. Service Before Self would apply here. This is why I really think everyone in the US should be forced to live abroad for at least 1-2 years of their life. Come to realize there's a whole world out there that: A) Does cool stuff B) Doesn't give a rat$ azz about the US but does like our music/movies and C) How millions would love to have the luxuries, rights, promise, aspirations, and opportunities we take for granted in the US. It's not a joke people would hurt you in other countries for things we take for granted or throw away in the US.
And to keep it on-topic, perhaps this is where the Flappy Bird guy's mental landscape looks like. People gravitate towards people with sudden riches. Want to start hearing about all the best business ideas in the world? Win the lottery.... or create an app making a publicly reported $50k a day. "Hey, help me with my car payment!" "Buy me a car, you make twice what it costs in one day doing nothing." "My uncle is being held hostage, please don't let my uncle die!"
Afterawhile I'm sure more people would say, "OK, I'm done with this silliness." Sorta like child actors who drop out of sight. The sudden fame or money can engulf and overwhelm. Of course, I'm speculating, but note I'm not judging him either.
MagnusVonMagnum
macrumors 603
That's a bad assumption and NOWHERE does it say it's in Vietnamese currency. It's obviously American US just by the context. No one puts you on CNN for $2.35 a day nor would you be #1 in ad-revenue on iTunes. This was all over the national news in the U.S. No one would notice or care for $2.35 a day.
Wow you're sure giving me a lot of attention. Not quite sure how my post fit into your little rant you have going on above, I simply based my opinion of a situation on the facts given (how is the guy giving "service before self"?). You said you weren't judging him.... you sure didn't give me that same treatment but I don't care if you "judge" me. I welcome your critique and laugh at it's wild inaccuracy. I do however love your little lecture, it was quite amusing. Because I care so much what you think of me I'll try and change your mind......
I have lived in no less than 5 foreign countries and have visited at least 30 different countries "working" in some capacity. I took leave after the tsunami in 2004 and several of us "unknowing and uncaring" Americans flew to help render medical aide to those in need. I took leave and went to Haiti a month after their Earthquake in 2010 to do the same. Volunteer my time with Dr.'s without borders, several nights a month a group of us walk the streets of Denver giving free medical care to the homeless similar to Operation Safety Net out of Pa. I feel quite comfortable with myself and what I do for human kind. I also do this with funds that would normally be used to feed/shelter my family...... does this make me a better person in your eyes? PLEASE say it does.... PLEASE!! 🙄
On topic I'm glad he dumped the app so he isn't "bothered" any more. Would of been cool if he signed the rights over to a charity of his choosing so they could benefit. Guess you can label him the non caring type too JCL.
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Joust
I liked the game when it was called joust, circa 1982... push button wings flap, crappy, pixelated graphics.
I liked the game when it was called joust, circa 1982... push button wings flap, crappy, pixelated graphics.
adamj575
macrumors 6502
taptic
macrumors 65816
Shrink
macrumors G3
Unless your intention was to make a blue box with a question mark in it...you could be right.😛
😉 😀
new option
here is a new option to play.
I can play with Chrome even.
http://www.online-flappy-bird.net
here is a new option to play.
I can play with Chrome even.
http://www.online-flappy-bird.net
I didn't call you a child, as you called the Flappy developer guy. I merely said your message was deplorable. I then move on to describe the type of message on here (which yours fit within but is not exclusive). If you took the entire message to be about your post, then you misunderstood. If I'd meant for it to be specifically to you, I would have addressed it to you and quoted you (as I have here).
I volunteered for Haiti and Afghanistan three times. I tried to volunteer for Katrina (New Orleans) and the California wild fires (about 8 years ago) but commander didn't want to release any of his officers, and we sent one Staff Sergeant. Volunteering is great, but I'd think it'd open your eyes to the fact many cultures don't subscribe to our capitalistic tendency to think money is important. This man, in my mind, likely falls into that culture. If he was money grubbing he'd have sold it. As for donating it, I'd have to go back and read my Apple Developer agreement, but I'm pretty sure that'd be an exceptionally difficult thing to do.
One other aspect to consider, the financial tax burdens and regulatory hoops might have overcome him. Make $100, no one notices you. Make tens of thousands a month, and now you're filing taxes and paying quarterly with huge penalties for mistakes. Yes, you will hire a tax attorney, but again, he might have been caught off guard by all the burdens of making a lot of money. Once you're into six digit income you really get sick of everyone in your pockets.
I volunteered for Haiti and Afghanistan three times. I tried to volunteer for Katrina (New Orleans) and the California wild fires (about 8 years ago) but commander didn't want to release any of his officers, and we sent one Staff Sergeant. Volunteering is great, but I'd think it'd open your eyes to the fact many cultures don't subscribe to our capitalistic tendency to think money is important. This man, in my mind, likely falls into that culture. If he was money grubbing he'd have sold it. As for donating it, I'd have to go back and read my Apple Developer agreement, but I'm pretty sure that'd be an exceptionally difficult thing to do.
One other aspect to consider, the financial tax burdens and regulatory hoops might have overcome him. Make $100, no one notices you. Make tens of thousands a month, and now you're filing taxes and paying quarterly with huge penalties for mistakes. Yes, you will hire a tax attorney, but again, he might have been caught off guard by all the burdens of making a lot of money. Once you're into six digit income you really get sick of everyone in your pockets.