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I am planning on using BootCamp on my MBP but if it work due to thermal issues, I have a backup computer: Dell PC.

I just don't know if I can transfer out the software from the MBP to the Dell if I need to change over.

Yea I saw some limitations and jumping hoops to get boot camp installed on my unsupported Mac Pro plus I have to do software updates for this n that and no boot screen. It’s doable but risky since it’s my work machine
 
I’m looking into upgrading my 2013 mbp to get set up for when Flight Sim 2020 is released. Does anyone think the current 16’’ mbp with dedicated graphics will have trouble running modest settings?

It looks like it’s going to be a pretty graphically intensive game. Opinions?

The moment of truth is almost upon us - the release is TOMORROW! I can't wait.

Base level MBP 16 user here and avid flight simmer. But I've found even with FSX (Steam Edition, Boot Camp) the fan ramps up and the chassis gets hot after ~25 mins of playing, although that's on almost 4K settings and ultra details. Shadow of the Tomb Raider (macOS): looks amazing, but again after about 30-40 mins it gets too hot and blowy. Thermal limits treated differently, at least, between OS's. So I'm nervous about FS2020 on the MBP 16, and wonder about impacting the longevity machine with such high temps.

Anyone else have similar experiences?
 
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The moment of truth is almost upon us - the release is TOMORROW! I can't wait.

Base level MBP 16 user here and avid flight simmer. But I've found even with FSX (Steam Edition, Boot Camp) the fan ramps up and the chassis gets hot after ~25 mins of playing, although that's on almost 4K settings and ultra details. Shadow of the Tomb Raider (macOS): looks amazing, but again after about 30-40 mins it gets too hot and blowy. Thermal limits treated differently, at least, between OS's. So I'm nervous about FS2020 on the MBP 16, and wonder about impacting the longevity machine with such high temps.

Anyone else have similar experiences?
Yay, I am eagerly waiting too.
Please let us know if you find your 16" MBP works well - I assume you will use the subscription model ?

OTOH, I pre-purchased the $119 FS 2020 Deluxe PC version (not steam because I want to buy the addons and have ATC (VATSIM) connected...

ISSUE: I have not decided if I should use the base 16" MBP w/ Bootcamp and my new Alienware 27" gaming monitor w/ HDMI

-or-

Dell PC desktop that has a 8th gen i5 w/ Radeon card & Alienware 27"....

HELP !!!
 
I'm still trying to get bootcamp installed on my mac pro 5.1 but hoping that with my rx580 it would make a difference in a bootcamp gaming than any game playing within the OSX.
 
I keep seeing MS refer to pre-downloading FS for play on Tuesday, but the only file it downloads is about 10 MB. Anyone have any success with this? I'd assume it would be to MS's advantage to spread out the load since the game requires about 150 GB.
 
Small update. Just wanted to tell you all that fs2020 works fine on my macbookpro late 2019 with a razor egpu and nvidia rtx 2070 and windows 10.
 
Small update. Just wanted to tell you all that fs2020 works fine on my macbookpro late 2019 with a razor egpu and nvidia rtx 2070 and windows 10.
What settings are you running at? Also does the MacBook run hot? Thinking about doing an egpu set up for my base MBP 16 to run msfs on bootcamp but would only consider it if it doesn’t involve my Mac running burning hot for hours at a time. I do all my other gaming on console.
 
My settings are on ultra and i get a 30ish cpu usage and I don't feel it runs that hot. I am actually totally amazed that it is running so good. 50% of my 32gb of ram. It is actually running better with better frame rates (around 30) than both x-plane and dcs.
 
can anyone test on Base MBP 16 inch and settings? thanks
I've got the base 16 and have been playing the game okay. The game runs smoother the higher you take a plane. Low flying is fine but you can see some choppiness for sure. This is all on Medium preset settings. Game is overall playable just not the best experience. I installed the blue drivers that are recommended for the 16 mbp.
 
I've got the base 16 and have been playing the game okay. The game runs smoother the higher you take a plane. Low flying is fine but you can see some choppiness for sure. This is all on Medium preset settings. Game is overall playable just not the best experience. I installed the blue drivers that are recommended for the 16 mbp.
Blue drivers? whats that? sorry im not a gamer.
 
I've got the base 16 and have been playing the game okay. The game runs smoother the higher you take a plane. Low flying is fine but you can see some choppiness for sure. This is all on Medium preset settings. Game is overall playable just not the best experience. I installed the blue drivers that are recommended for the 16 mbp.
Thanks for testing out the base 16" MBP.
I think the MBP in Bootcamp may not cut it based on others reporting in...

I am now leaning towards using my i5 desktop PC with a Radeon RX 460 4GB GDDR5 Graphics Card and Dell Alienware AW2720HF 27" HD gaming monitor....
 
I've got the base 16 and have been playing the game okay. The game runs smoother the higher you take a plane. Low flying is fine but you can see some choppiness for sure. This is all on Medium preset settings. Game is overall playable just not the best experience. I installed the blue drivers that are recommended for the 16 mbp.
Yeah, I can confirm that. The game works on Medium preset settings on my MacBook Pro i9 - 32GB - Radeon Pro 5500M. If you fly over an area that's not very dense, let's say a desert and you have blue skies, the game runs very smoothly with 50+ fps. However, if you fly at night or with scattered clouds, or it's raining, then the fps take a big hit, up to a point where the game gets unplayable. Same goes if you're flying over populated areas like big cities or airports.

Setting the game to Low Settings or playing with the graphics settings does help, but not a lot. Also, the graphics do look a lot worse when going to low preset.

Also the MacBook gets very hot. It is definitely not suited for long flight sessions.

So all in all, MSFS *works* on a MacBook Pro 16 i9 with a Radeon Pro 5500M, but the experience is not enjoyable and I would either look for another game/simulator, or invest into a dedicated windows gaming rig. (Or maybe wait for the next gen XBox which will surely run the game, although you have to buy the game a second time).
 
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Has anyone tried using MS FS2020 subscription version (XBOX Game PC Pass) on their bootcamp MBP ?

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So all in all, MSFS *works* on a MacBook Pro 16 i9 with a Radeon Pro 5500M, but the experience is not enjoyable and I would either look for another game/simulator, or invest into a dedicated windows gaming rig. (Or maybe wait for the next gen XBox which will surely run the game, although you have to buy the game a second time).
Are you using the subscription or full download version ?
 
If you game a lot get a Windows deskside system. Trying to get a Mac to play high-performance titles is an exercise in frustration. For $1000 you can get some great performance with a Windows deskside tower. FS 2020 is great on my old i9990k system with 32 GB of memory, SSD drive, and Nvidia RTX 2070. Even the higher resolutions are smooth as butter and the models perform close to the real aircraft.
 
Has anyone tried using MS FS2020 subscription version (XBOX Game PC Pass) on their bootcamp MBP ?

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Are you using the subscription or full download version ?

I'm using the Game Pass version (which is just the standard version) and it's TERRIBLE. Running on low settings at 720p it's still choppy. You need a 5600 or eGPU to even begin to touch this game.
 
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If you game a lot get a Windows deskside system. Trying to get a Mac to play high-performance titles is an exercise in frustration. For $1000 you can get some great performance with a Windows deskside tower. FS 2020 is great on my old i9990k system with 32 GB of memory, SSD drive, and Nvidia RTX 2070. Even the higher resolutions are smooth as butter and the models perform close to the real aircraft.
Yes, you are leaning me towards the PC setup.
Much as I love using the 16" MBP w/ 27" display for gaming in Bootcamp, I am now finding out that the demands of this game is too much.

So I am getting my new Dell i5 8th gen w/ 32GB RAM & dual 256GB SSD + Radeon RX460 w/ 4GB DDR + Dell Alienware 27" gaming monitor setup....
 
As a long time mac user - I have been researching mini itx systems for gaming and LOVE how imaginative and compact some of those mini itx cases are. I am considering one of those to reduce my pc foot print and still have my mac pro on the side for my work.
 
As a long time mac user - I have been researching mini itx systems for gaming and LOVE how imaginative and compact some of those mini itx cases are. I am considering one of those to reduce my pc foot print and still have my mac pro on the side for my work.

Whatever you do make sure there is plenty of space in the case and a large power supply for power-hungry GPUs. Gaming uses a lot of power from CPU and GPUs. This means heat that must be dissipated, which means airflow. You want this airflow to be large in volume, yet low in velocity unless you can handle noise. I use Noctua 200 and 140 mm fans in my case. Even at low speeds (100-600 RPM) they move a lot of air. I couple this with a big CPU heat sink that probably weights close to 3 pounds. The result is silent and fast.
 
Whatever you do make sure there is plenty of space in the case and a large power supply for power-hungry GPUs. Gaming uses a lot of power from CPU and GPUs. This means heat that must be dissipated, which means airflow. You want this airflow to be large in volume, yet low in velocity unless you can handle noise. I use Noctua 200 and 140 mm fans in my case. Even at low speeds (100-600 RPM) they move a lot of air. I couple this with a big CPU heat sink that probably weights close to 3 pounds. The result is silent and fast.
Yes, this is so true.
I just ordered a 80 Gold PSU from Dell to gain an extra 100W of power for the video card.

I also added a 120mm fan onto case.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if the new upcoming ARM / Apple Silicon could do a better job than the Intel chips?

ARM/AS would run circles around the Intel and not get hot....
 
Yes, this is so true.
I just ordered a 80 Gold PSU from Dell to gain an extra 100W of power for the video card.

I also added a 120mm fan onto case.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if the new upcoming ARM / Apple Silicon could do a better job than the Intel chips?

ARM/AS would run circles around the Intel and not get hot....

I think regarding AS you just need to look at iPad Pros and extrapolate from there. A lot of good performance at low power usage, which means lower power consumption and low excess heat.

But, when it comes to gaming titles expect the iPad and iPhone games to lead on AS versus PC titles. I think the ability to run IOS and iPadOS apps on AS Macs is a killer feature that does not get enough press.
 
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What's interesting is that this game is nearly the next Crysis in terms of how hard it hits modern hardware. It's brutal, and I love that. I'm going to get an eGPU before I even think about running it again, but I'm hoping that the next series of AMD cards (the ones the PS5 and Xbox Series X come with) comes out soon enough that Apple includes support in MacOS. I'd hate to find that the Radeon 5700XT is the fastest third party card ever supported for Macs.
 
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