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Its funny how all of the tech YTers that cover PCs and GPUs basically call the RTX xx50 and xx60 series of cards wastes of sand, yet they tend to be most popular cards for consumers
Because they're the only affordable Nvidia cards that aren't ancient trash like the 1030 and people have been somewhat tricked into thinking they need an Nvidia card by marketing. It's like how the most popular Apple laptops are the cheapest ones despite those often being horrible value even by Apple standards. Remember in 2015 when they STILL were selling the 2012 13" base model MBP for $1100? A few hundred extra could have gotten a much better much newer Retina 13" but people don't want to spend more or do research to get something that's actually good for more than a couple years.
 
Microcenter is now selling on Amazon and they are selling CPU-MB bundles. I nearly fell over when I saw that. I was going to check prices on Amazon and Microcenter bundles popped up. I do not know why they are selling there and the prices are quite a bit better in store than on Amazon. Example: Ryzen 9900X + MSI Tomahawk 870 + G-Skill 32 GB RAM is $600 at Microcenter in-store. On Amazon, they have the CPU + MB at $630. You have to add the RAM yourself.

I also noticed that Newegg is selling on Amazon now too.

I checked bundle prices on Newegg and Best Buy and it's just a huge mess. Best Buy has bundles for old CPUs and Motherboards over $1,000 so it looks like they added them a long time ago and never took them off. At the moment, MicroCenter is beating out everyone else.
 
Its funny how all of the tech YTers that cover PCs and GPUs basically call the RTX xx50 and xx60 series of cards wastes of sand, yet they tend to be most popular cards for consumers
It's kind of a question of affordability and how much I lose by going with the 4060 over the 4080 when I bought mine over two years ago. VRAM wasn't as big of a deal and the RTX 4060 was the sweet spot when accounting for wattage.

That said, if I had to replace my Acer Predator Helios Neo 16" RTX 4060, I would definitely opt for a 4080 or 5080 (whatever I can get with 16GB VRAM) for future-proofing. VRAM is becoming a real thing, supposedly.

I would probably wait for a sweet deal from HP on their MAX gaming laptop...they have been going on sale pretty routinely.
 
hat said, if I had to replace my Acer Predator Helios Neo 16" RTX 4060, I would definitely opt for a 4080 or 5080 (whatever I can get with 16GB VRAM) for future-proofing. VRAM is becoming a real thing, supposedly.
When I bought my 7800XT, I chose the AMD over nvidia simply because it was excellent at rasterization and had plenty of vram. I'm not worked up over ray tracing, so the lower performance of RT in the AMD cards didn't bother me. Nvidia eventually came out with a handful of variants with more vram, but at the time of my purchase, that was not the case.
 
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When I bought my 7800XT, I chose the AMD over nvidia simply because it was excellent at rasterization and had plenty of vram. I'm not worked up over ray tracing, so the lower performance of RT in the AMD cards didn't bother me. Nvidia eventually came out with a handful of variants with more vram, but at the time of my purchase, that was not the case.
Yeah, I am honestly hoping I get another year or two out of my RTX 4060 and will deal with whatever is out by then. Maybe Nvidia will up the VRAM on the entire line. Or maybe I end up going with AMD. I used to go AMD for Hackintosh reasons...so I am used to them as well.
 
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I was browsing through my past orders on Amazon, and I noticed this was my first dedicated Graphics Card for my first self-built PC. Pretty sure it was stupid expensive at the time :)

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Ordered the Lenovo Yoga 2-in-1, Intel 258, 32 GB, 1 TB, 4k display.

$1,829.99

Cart Threshold Savings: $50.00
eCoupon Savings: $183.00
Senior Savings: $83.25

Net $1,514.64

What's crazy is that I got different pricing on different Macs that I used. I got an MSRP over $2K on my iMac Pro and MacBook Pro but got the lower price on my Mac Studio. It sounds like they play the crazy game of pricing based on what they think that they know about you. I would not be surprised if there are additional discounts to be had but these three were sufficient for me.

I'm going to skip the motherboard/CPU/RAM upgrade on my desktop now.
 
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What's crazy is that I got different pricing on different Macs that I used. I got an MSRP over $2K on my iMac Pro and MacBook Pro but got the lower price on my Mac Studio. It sounds like they play the crazy game of pricing based on what they think that they know about you. I would not be surprised if there are additional discounts to be had but these three were sufficient for me.
If you want the best price from that kind of websites with variable pricing, you should use Firefox on a free Linux distribution. You'll be surprised of the price difference! :cool: 👍

[edit] Forgot: This even often works for amazon! ;)
 
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$1,829.99

Cart Threshold Savings: $50.00
eCoupon Savings: $183.00
Senior Savings: $83.25

Net $1,514.64
Yeah, Lenovo is funny, where they have one price, but no one really ever pays "sticker" Black Friday is a time that you'll see huge savings. I think July is also a time where they also discount for students
 
I installed Ubuntu on my M1 Pro MacBook Pro (it was surprisingly fast) and tried out Firefox and it gave me the same price as the lowest I got. I couldn't go all of the way as one of my coupons was one-time-use only.
 
Yeah, Lenovo is funny, where they have one price, but no one really ever pays "sticker" Black Friday is a time that you'll see huge savings. I think July is also a time where they also discount for students

They have the category discount: students, teachers, military, medical and seniors. I suppose I could have asked our son to order it for the medical discount or maybe it's already set up at his workplace. Shopping Windows stuff is definitely different from buying Apple gear as there are usually only a few, fairly well-known ways to get Apple discounts.
 
The ultimate tier is a little pricey, but the experience is as good as it's going to get on a cloud streaming gaming service. Why not dip your toes in for 1 month before going for a 6 month sub?
I took the plunge and bought a month. The paid tier definitely is a lot faster and easier to start the game. I'm sure the timing of my play time also contributed but overall I'm seeing some advantages over crossover, though I don't think I'll give up on crossover.
 
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There were two major issues with crossover, not show stopper ones but impactful. For some reason d3dmetel dxvk, etc may have been the cause - during some public events, as soon as I start my participation the game freezes and I have to force quit fallout 76. Also in some areas, FPS drops to the teens. I've been playing with crossover's settings, but overall Geforce Now doesn't have those headaches.
 
There were two major issues with crossover, not show stopper ones but impactful. For some reason d3dmetel dxvk, etc may have been the cause - during some public events, as soon as I start my participation the game freezes and I have to force quit fallout 76. Also in some areas, FPS drops to the teens. I've been playing with crossover's settings, but overall Geforce Now doesn't have those headaches.

Crossover is kind of a 99% solution. The main Intel program I need to run was built with Crossover and I get hangs and crashes on macOS that I don't get on Windows or running in a Windows virtual machine. It's something that I lived with for a while as it was usually just a few crashes per week and I'd just restart it.

I think that 2026 is going to be interesting with Panther Lake. Thin, light, efficient and the ability to get higher performance when needed would put Intel back in the game, particularly when AMD is more focused on the performance laptop market.
 
Crossover is kind of a 99% solution
Maybe closer to 80 to 90%. Starfield doesn't even run, I get weird graphic anomalies on fallout 4 (yes I'm a bethesda fanboy). On Atomfall, mass effect legendary editioin, AOE II (latest remaster version) all run flawlessly.

Overall I'm very happy with Crossover and I can myself using Geforce Now for situations that I cannot get crossover to behave
 
What GFN has done for me is make me start looking at building a gaming PC again :D

I have 9900X, G-Skill RAM, PSU, ThermalRight cooler and MSI Tomahawk 870E boxes sitting in the basement waiting for me to set it up. The computer isn't for me but I'll run some benchmarks on it to see how it feels. The MSI Tomahawk 870E has two Gen 5 NVMe slots and two Gen 4 so it's capable of insane storage speeds. I will put in Gen 4 and 3 drives though as they should be good enough.
 
What GFN has done for me is make me start looking at building a gaming PC again :D
the opposite, as there's less excuses for me now on the PC side. I still have my PC desktop sitting next to my desk plugged in, but its off. I fired it up yesterday to test a work problem (I had to test something that wasn't on a corporate computer build). That's largely the only use it has gotten

I'm very happy with the studio, and I don't see myself flip/flopping any time soon
 
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the opposite, as there's less excuses for me now on the PC side. I still have my PC desktop sitting next to my desk plugged in, but its off. I fired it up yesterday to test a work problem (I had to test something that wasn't on a corporate computer build). That's largely the only use it has gotten

I'm very happy with the studio, and I don't see myself flip/flopping any time soon

My hesitation is down to me really liking my M4 Mini and having my desktop connected into my preferred ecosystem. I like GFN, but I am fussy and I can feel/see the fact it's not native. The £20/month rubs me when I don't like subscriptions.

Getting a PC again will introduce friction to managing my digital things, which is mostly in my head :D

A 9800x3d / 9070 XT build is £1800 too.
 
Getting a PC again will introduce friction to managing my digital things, which is mostly in my head :D
I run a mixed setup at home, regardless what is my main computer. I have a work laptop that's windows. I use that during the day (I'm exactly typing my reply to your post on it ) :)
A 9800x3d / 9070 XT build is £1800 too.
I just paid for my daughter's fall semester tuition, so to say that I'm poor as a church mouse wouldn't be an exaggeration
 
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I run a mixed setup at home, regardless what is my main computer. I have a work laptop that's windows. I use that during the day (I'm exactly typing my reply to your post on it ) :)

I just paid for my daughter's fall semester tuition, so to say that I'm poor as a church mouse wouldn't be an exaggeration

It's only four years (hopefully).
 
the opposite, as there's less excuses for me now on the PC side.
My blood pressure normalized since I am now almost exclusively running Windows on my MBP2015 and it will stay so for a long time, I hope. I love my MacBook and it's gorgeous screen but with a decent OS. Sometimes I boot into Monterey again, just to confirm how much I am uneased with macOS bizarreries.
 
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