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Steve Adams said:
4 iPhones come through the store with this exact same issue as well, borked it's software update
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We're not talking about phones - smartphones are a different animal

If a macos update touches the firmware, yes its possible that it could brick the system, the fix unlike a bios update has been to put the mac into DFCU mode and restore it. Again not the same thing.
 
I do wonder how often failed firmware/bios updates occur. I'm not even sure if flashback capability (that used to be heavily touted) is even worth mentioning these days.
 
Steve Adams said:
I understand, I have heard about the macbook brick issues as well. I can't remember where i read/saw it. I will try to find the source for you.
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From what I've read, its because apple's update process is touching the firmware, so again that falls into my argument that a bios (or firmware) update can bork a system. The difference with Macs is DFU mode can be used to recover the machine.

Unless the PC motherboard has a rollback cmos button, you the consumer is SOL
 
diamond.g said:
I do wonder how often failed firmware/bios updates occur.
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Probably not many times, but for me its a risk vs. reward. For Pcs what exactly is being updated and does it directly impact you? Probably not, and so why risk it - at least that's how I see it.

My PC is running an old beta version of a bios (I had no idea it was a beta version), but its been rock solid, while the bios version is probably 4+ years old, I have zero reason to update it. The system is stable, fast, and all of the functionality I require.
 
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diamond.g said:
I do wonder how often failed firmware/bios updates occur. I'm not even sure if flashback capability (that used to be heavily touted) is even worth mentioning these days.
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Put it this way I won't loose sleep updating my bios. I have updated bios on every system I have owned since I have been using pcs, so 30 plus years and not once had a borked update. It's not very often in PC land that something happens other than a power outage at the exact same time the update is processing. so, update your bios on a nice day not weather that would chance a power outage.
 
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maflynn said:
Links please - that's not something I heard about
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You can just ask your favorite AI. Here's what ChatGPT returned:

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maflynn said:
From what I've read, its because apple's update process is touching the firmware, so again that falls into my argument that a bios (or firmware) update can bork a system. The difference with Macs is DFU mode can be used to recover the machine.

Unless the PC motherboard has a rollback cmos button, you the consumer is SOL
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Our build last year has the MSI Tomahawk which allows you to load BIOS from a flash drive:

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Steve Adams said:
Put it this way I won't loose sleep updating my bios. I have updated bios on every system I have owned since I have been using pcs, so 30 plus years and not once had a borked update. It's not very often in PC land that something happens other than a power outage at the exact same time the update is processing. so, update your bios on a nice day not weather that would chance a power outage.
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I haven't bricked any PCs going back to the 1990s. I've bricked my 2008 MacBook Pro 17 on an update and I was ten minutes from an Apple Store. My wife bricked a 2018 Mac mini and a trip to the Apple Store resolved it.
 
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The shiny new objects are interesting, particularly the base M5 Studio. And the availability seems interesting too. I saw a lot of posts on Reddit about buying the 256 GB RAM configurations. I would expect that some are serious given that it was in the MacStudio subreddit. I watched one video on them and there simply isn't enough information. We'll get benchmarks and more information probably in two weeks. Four at the outside when they actually ship. I don't know if Apple is seeding any early models for review.

It would be fun to have one of these (M6 mini or M5 Max Studio) just to play with and I've considered buying one, testing it and returning it if it didn't hit it out of the ballpark. But I hate returning things.

And I don't need it. My current setup is working remarkably well. My idea for getting one would be having to replace the iMac Pro next fall. So there's plenty of time to decide.

Realistically speaking, I could justify a Windows upgrade moreso than a Mac upgrade right now. But I don't need either.
 
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pshufd said:
The shiny new objects are interesting, particularly the base M5 Studio. And the availability seems interesting too. I saw a lot of posts on Reddit about buying the 256 GB RAM configurations. I would expect that some are serious given that it was in the MacStudio subreddit. I watched one video on them and there simply isn't enough information. We'll get benchmarks and more information probably in two weeks. Four at the outside when they actually ship. I don't know if Apple is seeding any early models for review.

It would be fun to have one of these (M6 mini or M5 Max Studio) just to play with and I've considered buying one, testing it and returning it if it didn't hit it out of the ballpark. But I hate returning things.

And I don't need it. My current setup is working remarkably well. My idea for getting one would be having to replace the iMac Pro next fall. So there's plenty of time to decide.

Realistically speaking, I could justify a Windows upgrade moreso than a Mac upgrade right now. But I don't need either.
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Likewise. If my current laptop wasn't having motherboard issues, I would not be replacing it. It still works fine, does everything I need and is plenty fast for the work I do. I can edit video, photo, create templates for our clothing, etc. My desktop rips through everything and is almost 6 years old too. Shiny new tech used to get me alot, now as long as it works and does it's job to my satisfaction, the corps won't get my money.
 
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