Flip Flopping between macOS and Windows

[maflynn]

She has also started hating iCloud

I'm moving away from iCloud myself. Specifically the email. Some of its my fault, but an equal portion is how Apple manages emails, spam and allows us control (hint they don't).

I signed up to ProtonMail and secured a domain name to use with it. I'm really happy with the domain name, its a named related to mail, so it appears very much like what could be a generic email provider. Coincidently. the spam coming into my iCloud account has increased, as if Apple noticed that I'm transitioning away, lol

 

[BigMcGuire]

I'm moving away from iCloud myself. Specifically the email. Some of its my fault, but an equal portion is how Apple manages emails, spam and allows us control (hint they don't).

I signed up to ProtonMail and secured a domain name to use with it. I'm really happy with the domain name, its a named related to mail, so it appears very much like what could be a generic email provider. Coincidently. the spam coming into my iCloud account has increased, as if Apple noticed that I'm transitioning away, lol

I’m very unhappy with the attachment limits for iCloud mail. That alone might make me switch back to Fastmail or proton.

 

[LeeW]

I'm moving away from iCloud myself. Specifically the email. Some of its my fault, but an equal portion is how Apple manages emails, spam and allows us control (hint they don't).

On that, we use a personal domain, our surname for email. Been using it since around 2000. I moved it from Google last year. It was a cheaper solution and more convenient for both of us to use apple mail I thought.

Google for all its faults didn't get it wrong once over many years when it came to filtering spam. Apple on the other hand makes us play wack-a-mole for them, reporting very, very obvious spam time and time again.

Of course, spam is partly our fault as well. We have used the domain for email for over 20 years now. In the early years, the issues with spam we face today were not really thought about, so our email addresses are out and are out there for all to spam and there is little we can do but have good filtering. Apple struggles. Maybe they will get better over time but not seeing it yet.

Not looked at ProtonMail for a while, last time I checked the storage space was pooled across all users which meant I needed their most expensive plan which was just too expensive for mail.

 

[LeeW]

Ok, so my wife has legitimate reasons for disliking iCloud and I don't understand it, so maybe someone here can explain why iCloud limits video uploads to a max of 15 minutes? Never really use videos so never noticed it, she did when trying to share a 45 min video of our son's wedding.

On this, it turns out the limit on the video to the Photos app is fixed, and can't be changed. 15 mins is the max. The workaround is to save them in iCloud in a folder out with the Photos and share the folder. It works, but I see photos and videos as being together, Google and OneDrive agree, but Apple doesn't

 

[TheOtherAndy]

I know this is MacOS vs Windows, but the past few weeks I have been trying to switch to Linux Mint full-time. The Intel i5-3570 machine in the basement runs flawlessly. Unfortunately, the much more recent Ryzen 5 2400G system in my upstairs office has been a nightmare. Twice now it has totally hung up while the kid has been on my lap watching his YouTube show that we watch to calm down before bed.

Each time, I've had to scramble to swap HDMI cables to the increasingly trusty base spec M1 Mac Mini that otherwise sits on my desk silently collecting dust. I dislike so much about Apple and Mac (and I fret endlessly about having only 8gb of RAM and an unreplaceable SSD), but I really can't argue with the fact that it gets the job done with a reliability that neither Windows nor Linux PCs have.

Though I would like it to stop making me put in my device password for icloud every freaking day.

 

[unrigestered]

you could try and see if Fedora is working better for you. It’s actually quite similar to macOS workflow wise if you like it’s combination of the mouse and keyboard workflow.

I’ve just recently switched to Linux and was actually surprised to like it even better than macOS, as i always thought that you‘d need a degree in computer science to even get it installed, but it’s actually quite the contrary

But of course it also depends on the apps that you’re maybe required to use

 

[The point and shoot pro]

you could try and see if Fedora is working better for you. It’s actually quite similar to macOS workflow wise if you like it’s combination of the mouse and keyboard workflow.

I’ve just recently switched to Linux and was actually surprised to like it even better than macOS, as i always thought that you‘d need a degree in computer science to even get it installed, but it’s actually quite the contrary

But of course it also depends on the apps that you’re maybe required to use

Yes, there are many linux distros that are truly plug and play now. Gone are the days of hours of terminal use. I used Linux Mint back in 2009 ish on an old Compaq laptop for my son to watch shows on while he was eating in his high chair. Worked great.

 

[TheOtherAndy]

you could try and see if Fedora is working better for you. It’s actually quite similar to macOS workflow wise if you like it’s combination of the mouse and keyboard workflow.

I’ve just recently switched to Linux and was actually surprised to like it even better than macOS, as i always thought that you‘d need a degree in computer science to even get it installed, but it’s actually quite the contrary

But of course it also depends on the apps that you’re maybe required to use

For the most part, I prefer the Windows workflow, actually. It's the Mac hardware I like . There is a Cinnamon spin of Fedora which would suit my needs. You are right though in Gnome sort of out-Mac-ing MacOS.

The problem won't be solved with another distro, unfortunately. AMD's early Ryzen chips are problematic on Linux thanks to several flaws, including a big one they won't acknowledge the existence of. Supposedly some users were having better luck after some bios updates, but in my case that's not effective.

 

[keithop]

For the most part, I prefer the Windows workflow, actually. It's the Mac hardware I like .

the more I think about it the more I think this describes me too.

Windows workflow is great for everything I do.... but I like the mac hardware from purchase experience through to unwrapping ;-) through silent laptops etc.

So that does definitely have an effect on the frequency of my flip flop.

If there was a really great macbook pro for the windows world with the same "I cant even hear any fans day to day" noise profile, I'd be happy. TBH it wouldnt even need the power of a macbook pro for what I do on a laptop.

 

[eltoslightfoot]

the more I think about it the more I think this describes me too.

Windows workflow is great for everything I do.... but I like the mac hardware from purchase experience through to unwrapping ;-) through silent laptops etc.

So that does definitely have an effect on the frequency of my flip flop.

If there was a really great macbook pro for the windows world with the same "I cant even hear any fans day to day" noise profile, I'd be happy. TBH it wouldnt even need the power of a macbook pro for what I do on a laptop.

You might be surprised out there. I can run my Asus G14 Zephyrus on silent (obviously it isn’t running at full power but it is using the 3060) and never hear the fans when I am just doing remote desktop, writing, etc.,

Now gaming is a different story, but it is quiet for office work. My bet is that other laptops do the same thing these days. The M1 was great for innovating windows laptops as well. Forced them to be better.

 

[keithop]

You might be surprised out there. I can run my Asus G14 Zephyrus on silent (obviously it isn’t running at full power but it is using the 3060) and never hear the fans when I am just doing remote desktop, writing, etc.,

Now gaming is a different story, but it is quiet for office work. My bet is that other laptops do the same thing these days. The M1 was great for innovating windows laptops as well. Forced them to be better.

ooo interesting! that gives me some hope! I'm ok with fans spinning if I'm doing something that needs some power but in normal use, remote desktop, office, ssh, vnc etc, I want it as close to silent as possible

 

[LeeW]

Gone are the days of hours of terminal use.

If you're not using terminal, you're not using Linux properly. Amateurs. 😆

 

[The point and shoot pro]

If you're not using terminal, you're not using Linux properly. Amateurs. 😆

screw that. If I can't just gui it I am not using it ha ha.

 

[transmaster]

I have been have been on the fence for something like 30 years about going Apple, I actually pre-date the Macintosh. Thanks to the iPod Touch 2G I was demon possessed by Demon Steve Jobs, or so my Android friends tell me. Several iPod Touches and an iPad got me to my first iPhone. You can look below to see how many iPhones I have had. What broke the ice was my last assembled PC it ASUS motherboard had an unrecoverable BIOS error. But I had my iPhone and it basically took over. I could not get the Motherboard or Ryzen CPU I wanted so it was the iPhone. After over a year I really didn't miss the PC at all. I got a cheap refurbished Lenovo micro desktop to operate my radios and it has been doing that job with zero problem to this day.

I have long known about the integration between all of the Apple stuff. I finally purchased an Mac-Studio. A couple of things happened to bring this integration home. I setup the Mac-Studio in my media system and turned it on. A notice popped up on the iPhone that it had detected an Mac computer. the button said continue I tabbed it . I watched with my jaw bouncing off of the floor as my iPhone setup the Mac Studio. The second thing was when I first plugged the iPhone into the Mac, and I was asked if I trusted this computer that one little thing finished my transformation. I have zero interest in assembling a new PC. I am going to upgrade to a better PC for the radios but it is going to be a AMD Ryzen system like the Mac Studio.

 

[LeeW]

screw that. If I can't just gui it I am not using it ha ha.

I have used the Linux Terminal for over 20 years managing remote servers, Terminal is all you have so you need to know it and know it well. Never would I use Linux as a desktop OS.

Even right now on my Mac as I type this there is an open terminal window, always there. I won't waste time reaching for my mouse to open an application. For example, I can move over to that terminal window and type

open -a "Google Chrome" https://macrumors.com

faster than I can reach for the mouse and click on the icon open the browser and get to this site.

 

[TheOtherAndy]

ooo interesting! that gives me some hope! I'm ok with fans spinning if I'm doing something that needs some power but in normal use, remote desktop, office, ssh, vnc etc, I want it as close to silent as possible

Microsoft Surface Go. 8gb model, either cpu (there's no real difference according to Geekbench). Very Apple-like build quality. Other fanless Windows machines are going to be bargain-basement packages (and likely slower)

 

[unrigestered]

I have used the Linux Terminal for over 20 years managing remote servers, Terminal is all you have so you need to know it and know it well. Never would I use Linux as a desktop OS.

Even right now on my Mac as I type this there is an open terminal window, always there. I won't waste time reaching for my mouse to open an application. For example, I can move over to that terminal window and type

open -a "Google Chrome" https://macrumors.com

faster than I can reach for the mouse and click on the icon open the browser and get to this site.

also faster than ctrl+1 (-9) to launch Apps that have links in the “ Dock“ or ctrl+the first one or two letters of apps (or documents) that are not in the dock?

On Mac, this process is also not much more convoluted

 

[LeeW]

also faster than ctrl+1 (-9) to launch Apps that have links in the “ Dock“ or ctrl+the first one or two letters of apps (or documents) that are not in the dock?

If you use Linux Desktop, sure if that works for you, as I said, I don't and would never use Linux as a desktop OS.

On Mac, this process is also not much more convoluted

If that works for you on Mac then fair enough. I choose to use the terminal. I don't use it only to open apps. That was just an example.

 

[The point and shoot pro]

If you use Linux Desktop, sure if that works for you, as I said, I don't and would never use Linux as a desktop OS.



If that works for you on Mac then fair enough. I choose to use the terminal. I don't use it only to open apps. That was just an example.

I have been looking at Linux desktop distros and they look really good. I am not a coder/programmer etc. I just use Windows etc. Well, I do some minor website work for people, but that's a different ball of wax. Terminal is something I used in dos. I left that behind years ago, unless absolutely needed.

 

[LiE_]

iPhone 13 Pro arrived yesterday, happy with it overall for the price (£617) as it has 99% battery health and no marks.

The Series 7 Apple Watch however was not what I would describe as "excellent condition" so that's being returned. I've bagged a stainless steel space grey 45mm series 7 cellular for £300, hopefully that comes in good condition and I'll be happy with that.

Plan is to replace the 13 Pro with the 15 Pro later this year if I'm sold on it.

There was also a deep scratch right in the center of the screen.

 

[Expos of 1969]

iPhone 13 Pro arrived yesterday, happy with it overall for the price (£617) as it has 99% battery health and no marks.

The Series 7 Apple Watch however was not what I would describe as "excellent condition" so that's being returned. I've bagged a stainless steel space grey 45mm series 7 cellular for £300, hopefully that comes in good condition and I'll be happy with that.

Plan is to replace the 13 Pro with the 15 Pro later this year if I'm sold on it.

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There was also a deep scratch right in the center of the screen.

I would have returned it as well.

 

[transmaster]

Microsoft Surface Go. 8gb model, either cpu (there's no real difference according to Geekbench). Very Apple-like build quality. Other fanless Windows machines are going to be bargain-basement packages (and likely slower)

Funny you should mention the Microsoft Surface. My main reason now for keeping a Windows machine around is my radios. All modern amatuer radio transeivers can be computer controlled. The Surface makes for a very good field setup.

 

[mi7chy]

I know this is MacOS vs Windows, but the past few weeks I have been trying to switch to Linux Mint full-time. The Intel i5-3570 machine in the basement runs flawlessly. Unfortunately, the much more recent Ryzen 5 2400G system in my upstairs office has been a nightmare. Twice now it has totally hung up while the kid has been on my lap watching his YouTube show that we watch to calm down before bed.

Do you have an Assrock mobo? Seems like a common issue that people fix by switching to different brand of mobo. Also, disable any factory over-clocking like PBO in recent mobos since it might cause instability.

https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=8954&PN=2&title=asrock-ab350-pro4-freeze-fix

Yes, there are many linux distros that are truly plug and play now. Gone are the days of hours of terminal use. I used Linux Mint back in 2009 ish on an old Compaq laptop for my son to watch shows on while he was eating in his high chair. Worked great.

Wiped Windows from my Yoga 6 to use as a Linux test bed. First tried Nobara for its gaming focus but went back to Linux Mint since it's even more polished and everything 'just works' like the volume shortcut keys. Everything is snappy and great to boot into an OS that uses just above 1GB RAM.

 

[TheOtherAndy]

Funny you should mention the Microsoft Surface. My main reason now for keeping a Windows machine around is my radios. All modern amatuer radio transeivers can be computer controlled. The Surface makes for a very good field setup.

And I see you also opted for the red accessories. Nice choice. The Surface Go is probably (strangely) my favorite device. It's a great little travel computer; fits into any bag so as not to add luggage and the kickstand/keyboard design allow it to be used in some "untraditional" positions. I frequently have the kickstand straddling my leg while I set with it crossed.

Has just enough power for me (probably comparable to a 5 year old mainstream laptop i3), although battery life could be better. An ARM version is supposedly coming next year though, along with an 11" Surface Pro (which will be interesting provided they don't take away all the bezels so you can't hold it).

Do you have an Assrock mobo? Seems like a common issue that people fix by switching to different brand of mobo. Also, disable any factory over-clocking like PBO in recent mobos since it might cause instability.

https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=8954&PN=2&title=asrock-ab350-pro4-freeze-fix



Wiped Windows from my Yoga 6 to use as a Linux test bed. First tried Nobara for its gaming focus but went back to Linux Mint since it's even more polished and everything 'just works' like the volume shortcut keys. Everything is snappy and great to boot into an OS that uses just above 1GB RAM.

Nope, it's an MSI. But it's a well known issue with the CPUs that happens on every make of motherboard. Hopefully the change I just made to the power settings in the BIOS fixes it. We'll see.

 

[The point and shoot pro]

ooo interesting! that gives me some hope! I'm ok with fans spinning if I'm doing something that needs some power but in normal use, remote desktop, office, ssh, vnc etc, I want it as close to silent as possible

I am using a dell 5406 2 in 1 as my laptop now. It has the 1175G7 chip, and Xe graphics. The fans NEVER turn on unless I am video editing. Even using AI photo editing software they do not spin.