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Id honestly rather see them get hired by a cyber security company. Put their talent to good use.
Perhaps, but there’s people that are good in cyber security and had not commit any crime (that we know). Just saying that been famous for a hack, does not makes you better than others.
 
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good luck living in a society at 17 years old where you cannot use a computer without law enforcement supervision. That's the real punishment. I can't imagine life in 20 years without this ability.
 
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I think the punk got what he deserved. There is a right way to go about informing a company of security holes in their app. He chose to break the law for intended profit. I don't think he should be praised for anything.
Do we know what the hole was? Something like this probably took a lot of social engineering, maybe also people on the inside. Might've been nothing but getting the right people to abuse their privileges. In which case, it'd be more crookery than actual security research.
 
Id honestly rather see them get hired by a cyber security company. Put their talent to good use.
All white hackers are currently employed in cyber security companies, big tech companies, etc receiving millions in salary for working in underwear for a few hours a day. They know that regardless how good are you, there are smarter people out there, and you will end up being put in custody one day. And then, there are young hackers who are just dump and will become white hackers once they get some jail time in order to understand how this works.
 
Id honestly rather see them get hired by a cyber security company. Put their talent to good use.

What they did was just a kind of phishing and some typical "pretend-to-be-someone" conversation to trick a twitter employee... they might not even wander around low-level programming.

Don't be a naive/clueless sympathizer.
 
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Cyber security companies most certainly should not hire them. First, spear phishing attacks are easy for anyone who can talk on a phone and manipulate to execute. Second, they weren’t smart enough to avoid getting caught, so it’s obvious they don’t know enough about cyber security to use private systems and avoid detection. Third, and most importantly, these people were doing this with malicious intent to scam people. They need reform before trusted with legitimate security concerns.
 
this might be the wrong takeaway but who the hell falls for a trillion-dollar corporation saying they'd double your bitcoin? i mean come on
Same people that are easily brainwashed by other nonsense.
 
I disagree, take it away. He began his adult life as a scammer - that’s the kind of personality that is a plague upon society. They actively prey upon the rest of us, forcing us to spend an inordinate amount of effort to protect ourselves from them. Literally everything in your life is affected and reflected in the price paid by the end user of every good and service you buy (loss prevention, cyber security, etc.). We don’t catch many of these people. Those that do need to be held accountable. Some 17 year old punk isn’t going to learn **** by the time he’s 20.
I dont know you age, but try imagining what was your mindset 10 or 15 years ago. Try looking at you when you were young. Were your priorities in life back then the same as they are now? Were you smarter then? Did you see the world as you see it now? People change by definition and I cant see how for non-violent offence it its worth taking the life away from a 17 years old person, just because he was dump enough to put in place an online scam that didnt hurt physically anyone. Ofc, he needs to be punished but serving a reasonable time in military style camp is more than sufficient.
 
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I don't see how 3 years is overkill. More than likely, he will only serve a fraction of the imposed sentence. He is lucky he didn't get more time.

Anne Sacoolas ran over and killed Harry Dunn through gross criminal negligence. Then she fled to America to escapr justice. The punishment currently being suggested for her is... COMMUNITY SERVICE!

If killing a guy gets you community service then a third rate bitcoin scam should warrant promising to not do it again.
 
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Security status or not, I don't rightfully see how Twitter (as a company) is to blame for what happened. The individuals that broke the law are to blame.
Correct. Thank you for stating what is not a popular opinion these days; sometimes bad guys are bad guys, and the consequences they reap are deserved.

You have people on here saying he shouldn't go to jail but, rather, should be given a cyber security job. These people have no conception of morality, of right and wrong. This person tried to defraud people out of their property..it's not a matter of skill, its a matter of morality, ethics. Yes, let's reward the evil, thieving person because they're really technologically talented.

It's no wonder our society is so ill. We have people that want to reward scammers.
 
Anne Sacoolas ran over and killed Harry Dunn through gross criminal negligence. Then she fled to America to escapr justice. The punishment currently being suggested for her is... COMMUNITY SERVICE!

If killing a guy gets you community service then a third rate bitcoin scam should warrant promising to not do it again.
I am not really a fan of plea bargaining. I am also not a fan of using logical fallacy to try and rationalize the irrational of your example.
 
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Do we know what the hole was? Something like this probably took a lot of social engineering, maybe also people on the inside. Might've been nothing but getting the right people to abuse their privileges. In which case, it'd be more crookery than actual security research.
If the punks didn't have inside help, I doubt they would have been successful.
 
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Poor Kid!

Here in Germany a driver killed a 19y old girl. He was drunk, drove a car, then hit her...

Long story short, all he got was a 5000€ fine, and could even keep his driving license. Probably not much different in the US.

And a Twitter Hacker, lol - A HACKER, better call him Scammer, get 3ys.

That doesn’t mean the punishment for the hacker was excessive. It seems more than fair. It simply means the punishment for the drunk driver wasn’t enough. It wouldn’t be enough even without comparing it to anything else.
 
Depends, is he a script kiddy or part of an APT. Most likely a script kiddy. Not only that, he didn’t report it but decided to use it for malicious and personal gain. This creates risk for any organisation who employees him in a security role. You’ll be giving them an admin account and a known history of malicious activity.
Not biased at all lol. Nice assumption making there
 
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Poor Kid!

Here in Germany a driver killed a 19y old girl. He was drunk, drove a car, then hit her...

Long story short, all he got was a 5000€ fine, and could even keep his driving license. Probably not much different in the US.

And a Twitter Hacker, lol - A HACKER, better call him Scammer, get 3ys.
That’s obscene. A fine for killing a kid? Maybe we should be using a benchmark that isn’t absolutely ******* insane.
I am not really a fan of plea bargaining. I am also not a fan of using logical fallacy to try and rationalize the irrational of your example.
like it or not, the justice system cannot function without plea bargaining.
 
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Well, I guess if you fell for this the "fool and his money are soon parted" rings very true. A reasonable person would have concluded this was not real.

Edit: I love the downvotes on my comment. This isn't supporting the scum that did it, but at the same time you need to be able to think for two seconds before jumping on the greed train.
 
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That doesn’t mean the punishment for the hacker was excessive. It seems more than fair. It simply means the punishment for the drunk driver wasn’t enough. It wouldn’t be enough even without comparing it to anything else.
I just wanted to express, that this and many other punishments are simply out of proportion, and that generally sucks.
Same same in every country.

As Apple I would also sue or fire the involved employees for being that stupid, for handing out corporate logins over twitter, and thats not hacking, thats scamming.
 
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