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Why are you calling this a foldable iPhone? It's a foldable iPad!
 
1. This is a DAY ONE purchase.
2. This is NOT a Jobs vs Cook issue. It wasn't (or barely) even possible in the Jobs era.
3. This WILL be the fastest selling iPhone release - a lot of waiting/frustrated customers.
4. My biggest hope is that it is an iPadOS device at heart - not just limited iPad OS availability.
5. PLEASE support the Apple Pencil.
 
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It's not the one for me, but I am excited that Apple is playing around with new form factors and embracing that there may be different devices for different people.
 
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As someone who fully plans to pre-order this thing instantly, I'm lowkey a bit glad that they might just skip Face ID. I don't feel that technology was really ever that useful, too many times that I'm trying to just pick up my phone or check something quick and suddenly it's complaining that it couldn't read my face or getting itself 'locked out' to the passcode because I touched the phone while it was flat on a couch so it 'missed' the face scan.
I really hope TouchID makes its way back to the regular iPhone. It was so much better than FaceID has ever been for me. There isn't much that would be an instant buy on a new phone these days, but bringing TouchID back will 100% result in me buying a phone. But I also do not want a foldable, so I really hope they bring it back to the normal form factor as well then.
 
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I’ve found Face ID far more reliable than a fingerprint reader but I use my hands for a living.
That's the thing though. It's really dependent on the user. For me TouchID (with home button) was a vastly superior experience than FaceID. I end up having to enter my passcode way more often than I ever did with TouchID. But... My mom barely has a fingerprint, so for her FaceID is superior. I'd love a phone that just has both and you can choose, or set multiple levels where in some cases you need to authenticate both. But that shouldn't be required.
 
1. This is a DAY ONE purchase.
2. This is NOT a Jobs vs Cook issue. It wasn't (or barely) even possible in the Jobs era.
3. This WILL be the fastest selling iPhone release - a lot of waiting/frustrated customers.
4. My biggest hope is that it is an iPadOS device at heart - not just limited iPad OS availability.
5. PLEASE support the Apple Pencil.
1. For some. We’ll see how many.
2. Jobs would have never built it even if he had the tech available in his era.
3. No. Not even close. The price alone will make it a sliver of the iPhone market.
4. Doubtful.
5. Doubtful.
 
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Fixed it.
 
Sweet Jesus, Apple are really doing it. *sigh*. o_O

Whatever happened to the Apple who was a trend setter, not just a follower?

Steve Jobs is turning in his grave about now lol.
Like how Apple made the first smartphone? Tablet? MP3 player? VR headset? Apple is almost never the first to market in any product category. I met Steve Jobs in 2007. This is exactly the kind of thing he’d want to be the first to perfect.
100% agree. I could never get Touch ID to work more than 1-2 days at a time, because I wash my hands 20+ times a day. This causes my skin to dry out & crack, so my fingerprints "change" frequently.

Face ID is so much more reliable for me.

That's the thing though. It's really dependent on the user. For me TouchID (with home button) was a vastly superior experience than FaceID. I end up having to enter my passcode way more often than I ever did with TouchID. But... My mom barely has a fingerprint, so for her FaceID is superior. I'd love a phone that just has both and you can choose, or set multiple levels where in some cases you need to authenticate both. But that shouldn't be required.
I agree, we should just have both. But I fail to see a scenario where Face ID doesn’t work.
 
As a motorcyclist, it's a hassle having to remove my helmet just to check something on my phone.
You ride your motorcycle with bare hands? For the record, that impedes Face ID for only a single scenario. If I do any welding, machining, moving material around etc, the fingerprint reader doesn’t work whatsoever for days or weeks.
 
I agree, we should just have both. But I fail to see a scenario where Face ID doesn’t work.
Well, here's where FaceID fails on me:

1. In the morning. Sometimes right when I wake up, I want to check my phone. If I'm particularly groggy my eyes don't always want to open enough for FaceID to work properly. So I have to type in my passcode many mornings where I otherwise wouldn't with TouchID.
2. Unlocking my phone in my car for my friend to change songs. Could just reach over and touch it without looking with TouchID, but with FaceID I have to literally take my eyes off the road just to unlock it for them. Just ran into this one again a couple days ago.
3. I always have to pick up my phone or awkwardly lean over it to unlock it if it's on the table. Sometimes I just want to use it like a calculator on the desk and picking it up (while not a huge deal) is more effort than just resting my finger on the home button used to be.
4. Not really a fail, but a slight annoyance... It's effectively slower even if it processes the unlock faster than TouchID (If TouchID works well for you like it does for me). With TouchID I could have it unlock entirely and on the home page before my eyes even see it, but with FaceID I have to wait until it responds to seeing my face even if I've already swiped.

Granted those are small things overall. But together they kind of add up. TouchID was always pretty flawless for me. I very very rarely had it fail to authenticate. With FaceID I'm typing in my passcode almost daily for some reason or another so it's just a worse experience for me. In the end it all comes down to how you use it, and how each works for you, But TouchID in the homebutton was a nearly perfect execution for how I used the phone. So almost any change to that was going to make the experience worse for me. That was peak iPhone experience in my opinion (especially combined with 3DTouch which they also decided no one needed...)

Give me a modern flagship iphone (not a budget one) with a TouchID Home Button, 3DTouch, and the headphone jack back and I'll buy that the day it drops. I don't even care if that means the Chin comes back. (I'd also like 2TB storage so I can keep my entire music library just on it without losing space for pictures and other things too).

Sorry that got a bit long lol
 
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Well, here's where FaceID fails on me:

1. In the morning. Sometimes right when I wake up, I want to check my phone. If I'm particularly groggy my eyes don't always want to open enough for FaceID to work properly. So I have to type in my passcode many mornings where I otherwise wouldn't with TouchID.
2. Unlocking my phone in my car for my friend to change songs. Could just reach over and touch it without looking with TouchID, but with FaceID I have to literally take my eyes off the road just to unlock it for them. Just ran into this one again a couple days ago.
3. I always have to pick up my phone or awkwardly lean over it to unlock it if it's on the table. Sometimes I just want to use it like a calculator on the desk and picking it up (while not a huge deal) is more effort than just resting my finger on the home button used to be.
4. Not really a fail, but a slight annoyance... It's effectively slower even if it processes the unlock faster than TouchID (If TouchID works well for you like it does for me). With TouchID I could have it unlock entirely and on the home page before my eyes even see it, but with FaceID I have to wait until it responds to seeing my face even if I've already swiped.

Granted those are small things overall. But together they kind of add up. TouchID was always pretty flawless for me. I very very rarely had it fail to authenticate. With FaceID I'm typing in my passcode almost daily for some reason or another so it's just a worse experience for me. In the end it all comes down to how you use it, and how each works for you, But TouchID in the homebutton was a nearly perfect execution for how I used the phone. So almost any change to that was going to make the experience worse for me. That was peak iPhone experience in my opinion (especially combined with 3DTouch which they also decided no one needed...)

Give me a modern flagship iphone (not a budget one) with a TouchID Home Button, 3DTouch, and the headphone jack back and I'll buy that the day it drops. I don't even care if that means the Chin comes back. (I'd also like 2TB storage so I can keep my entire music library just on it without losing space for pictures and other things too).

Sorry that got a bit long lol
It’s comical how polar different people we can be 🤣🤣🤣 3D Touch for me, was the worst thing ever brought to a phone. It provided absolutely nothing, and made everything worse. Also, I wish headphone jacks never existed at all. Ever. I’m with you on the 2tb drive though. I currently have 1tb and wish I had more, and that it was reasonably priced.
 
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You ride your motorcycle with bare hands? For the record, that impedes Face ID for only a single scenario. If I do any welding, machining, moving material around etc, the fingerprint reader doesn’t work whatsoever for days or weeks.
You said you failed to see a single scenario where Face ID doesn't work.

I gave you a scenario.
 
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It’s comical how polar different people we can be 🤣🤣🤣 3D Touch for me, was the worst thing ever brought to a phone. It provided absolutely nothing, and made everything worse. Also, I wish headphone jacks never existed at all. Ever. I’m with you on the 2tb drive though. I currently have 1tb and wish I had more, and that it was reasonably priced.
That's honestly why it annoys me so much when a lot of people just declare the way they like it to be the only way people should have. It's so damn short sighted lol. Neither of our preferences are wrong, but they are right for ourselves.

I'm curious though why 3D Touch was terrible for you? Personally I think the big issue was that people didn't think or know how to use it, but in my opinion it's vastly superior to the long presses we have now. The phone always gets confused whether I'm trying to long press/swipe, or something. With 3D Touch, it provided the phone with another input to help it determine what you are trying to do. If I started pressing, then it reacted both faster, and more correct every time.

Also, why the hate on headphone jacks lol? For me I like it because of the universal/non-proprietary nature of it. Wireless headphones require batteries, which go bad, which makes you have to buy again. It requires you to spend more money in the long run. I still have headphones that are over 20 years old at this point and still work great (if I have a headphone jack to plug them into.) At least for me, it's more about not having things be so disposable. But I do still have and enjoy my AirPods, but they are never going to sound as good as my old wired headphones. The convenience is nice though.
 
That's honestly why it annoys me so much when a lot of people just declare the way they like it to be the only way people should have. It's so damn short sighted lol. Neither of our preferences are wrong, but they are right for ourselves.

I'm curious though why 3D Touch was terrible for you? Personally I think the big issue was that people didn't think or know how to use it, but in my opinion it's vastly superior to the long presses we have now. The phone always gets confused whether I'm trying to long press/swipe, or something. With 3D Touch, it provided the phone with another input to help it determine what you are trying to do. If I started pressing, then it reacted both faster, and more correct every time.

Also, why the hate on headphone jacks lol? For me I like it because of the universal/non-proprietary nature of it. Wireless headphones require batteries, which go bad, which makes you have to buy again. It requires you to spend more money in the long run. I still have headphones that are over 20 years old at this point and still work great (if I have a headphone jack to plug them into.) At least for me, it's more about not having things be so disposable. But I do still have and enjoy my AirPods, but they are never going to sound as good as my old wired headphones. The convenience is nice though.
I didn’t like 3D Touch because I didn’t find it useful for my workflow and it inadvertently kicked in when unwanted. It’s been a while and I believe you could turn it off but I used to work on peoples phones all the time and found it incredibly annoying.
As far as headphone plugs, on something that has plenty of room. A tower, a Mac mini even maybe. But I don’t want to waste the space on an antique port where space is a premium on a phone or laptop. I’d much rather have more battery, SD card slot, usb port etc than something I literally haven’t used in over 10 years.
 
That's...not an iPhone anymore.

Sort of unfair that we're getting some sort of a folding Apple phone (or "iPhone" if they want to call it that) for the 5 people who want one, but not a normal-sized iPhone. Both are minorities, I just feel like a small, iPhone 5 sized version of an iPhone in 2025/2026 is something people want more than a folding tablet.
"5.5-inch outer display that is similar to a typical iPhone scree"

that's literary close to the iPhone 13 mini's screen no?!

why would Apple be aiming for the Oppo N1 and N2 size for a foldable?!
 
"5.5-inch outer display that is similar to a typical iPhone scree"

that's literary close to the iPhone 13 mini's screen no?!

why would Apple be aiming for the Oppo N1 and N2 size for a foldable?!

Apple themselves said on stage back in 2012 that the iPhone 5 (4") is the ideal size for a phone. The 13 mini is already too big.
 
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