Foldable iPhone Leak Reveals New Camera Details

[EugW]

Still, a very small percentage, no?

In Korea foldables overall represent something like 10-15% of phone sales. However, apparently the growth in sales has stalled, probably partially because a big chunk of the younger demographic has switched to iPhones. Samsung phones are seen as old people phones.

BTW, foldable phones are very heavily featured as product placements in Korean TV shows, with the average income characters using the Flips and the high income executive type characters using the Folds. However, I also see a ton of iPhones as product placements too. Interestingly though, whereas in North America where iPhone users are almost always relatively decent people in the shows, I recently saw a Korean show where the iPhone user was a psychopath and serial killer, whereas the normies were using Android phones. Must have been sponsored by Samsung or something. 🤪

 

[steve09090]

In Korea foldables overall represent something like 10-15% of phone sales. However, apparently the growth in sales has stalled, probably partially because a big chunk of the younger demographic has switched to iPhones. Samsung phones are seen as old people phones.

BTW, foldable phones are very heavily featured as product placements in Korean TV shows, with the average income characters using the Flips and the high income executive type characters using the Folds. However, I also see a ton of iPhones as product placements too. Interestingly though, whereas in North America where iPhone users are almost always relatively decent people in the shows, I recently saw a Korean show where the iPhone user was a psychopath and serial killer, whereas the normies were using Android phones. Must have been sponsored by Samsung or something. 🤪

No doubt it is increasing, but I don’t feel they have really nailed it yet to make it compelling for the majority.

I mean the Z Fold is just being released now. Have you seen the phone wobble on a desk? Did not someone even test this?

 

[EugW]

No doubt it is increasing, but I don’t feel they have really nailed it yet to make it compelling for the majority.

I mean the Z Fold is just being released now. Have you seen the phone wobble on a desk? Did not someone even test this?

Yes, but what I was saying is that it's the Flip type folding phones that are popular, presumably because they are way cheaper than the Fold type folding phones and they also have a small footprint.

The Fold type folding phones are much, much less popular.

 

[steve09090]

Yes, but what I was saying is that it's the Flip type folding phones that are popular, presumably because they are way cheaper than the Fold type folding phones and they also have a small footprint.

I can't argue with that. If I were in the market, it would be something I would be more likely to consider. Although, until they reach the same level of longevity, they would have to be priced much closer to the current candy bars. I'm not sacrificing the strength and longevity of the phone for the size. I'm no longer in the year by year market.

The Fold type folding phones are much, much less popular.

For people who don't want a tablet, then I can see them being attractive, but they have become one of those products that is not the best in either area. So I can see your point.

 

[JoeSilver]

I couldn’t care less about the USA. But yeah, I was talking about global. And this was about phones, not tablets.

So, according my AI-assisted research, 35% of the global iPhones revenues are generated in the US, which means that if a small percentage of US customers are interested in a foldable, that would still be a sizeable source of revenue, regardless of what the rest of the world wants. Plus, often the rest of the world follows the American trend.

The reason why I mentioned tablets, is because foldables are likely to become mini-tablets while still maintaining the functions and roughly the size of an smartphone, therefore making the distinction between the two kinds of devices blurrier.

According to ChatGPT, the global sales of flip screens is less than 2%, with predictions to increase to less than 5% by 2028. So I guess it’s not insignificant in terms of $’s, but still niche.

Another way of seeing it is that they will double in less than 3 years, which extrapolated to the next 10 years make a large chunk of the market. Remember that once a technology picks up, its adoption can become exponential.

And it's important to stay ahead of the curve when the market shifts.

 

[steve09090]

Another way of seeing it is that they will double in less than 3 years, which extrapolated to the next 10 years make a large chunk of the market. Remember that once a technology picks up, its adoption can become exponential.

And it's important to stay ahead of the curve when the market shifts.

Probably the perfect timing for Apple to bring in a foldable that isn’t compromised as the current ones are with massive weird camera bumps, crappy plastic screens that ALL have a crease and varying levels of good to rubbish use of a second display.

We shall see I guess.