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Apple's foldable iPhone still faces production hurdles that leave its exact launch timing undecided, according to a new report from DigiTimes, even as Foxconn carries out what supply chain sources describe as "final mass-production adjustments."

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The report says Apple has assigned Foxconn to lead the device from new product introduction (NPI) through to mass production, citing the assembler's experience with precision structural components and large-scale production tuning. One industry source claimed Foxconn is the only Apple partner with a realistic chance of meeting the expected production target.

The framing sits somewhat against recent reporting. Foxconn began trial production in April, Apple subsequently raised its order to around 10 million units on the back of resolved hinge and circuit board problems, and just two weeks ago a China Securities Journal report aggregated by DigiTimes said the device was already in mass production with no delay envisaged. Today's report instead says the engineering validation phase may have caused a delay of one to two months, with the hinge structure and display durability testing remaining the principal bottlenecks.

The foldable iPhone is still, at the very least, expected to be unveiled alongside the iPhone 18 Pro models in September, with a book-style design, an inner display of around 7.7 to 7.8 inches, a 5.5-inch cover screen, a thickness of roughly 4.5mm, and a starting price above $2,000.

Article Link: Foldable iPhone Still Faces Production Hurdles, Report Says
 
This keeps changing every week, if its in mass production their are no issues or it wouldn't be in mass production. I cannot wait to pre order. Pointless post.
 
Besides the fact that the phone will have some issues due to the 4:3 form factor (many apps will probably not adapt very fast), I will probably wait for the second foldable phone due to potential mechanical issues (that Apple will probably want to downplay). Also the price will probably be a no-go due to memory…
 
Wait for the second generation and leave this one to the usual YouTube blokes.
1. The 1st Generation: The Overpriced Prototype


What it actually is: A flex for tech influencers and people with more money than patience.


The reality: It’s thick, heavy, battery life is atrocious, and the crease in the middle looks like a miniature Grand Canyon. You open it twice to show off to your friends, and on the third time, a stray dust particle under the screen completely destroys the display.


The verdict: Never buy Gen 1 unless you enjoy crying at Apple Store Genius Bars.


2. The 2nd Generation: The Apology Tour


What it actually is: Apple (or any tech giant) fixing the catastrophic hardware flaws from Gen 1.


The reality: They fix the hinge so dust doesn't instantly ruin your life, make it 1 millimeter thinner, and call it "revolutionary." However, the software is still half-baked, the cameras are stripped down to fit the chassis, and the price tag is still absurdly high. It's the "Sorry we used you as a lab rat last year" model.


3. The 3rd Generation: The Actual Finished Product


What it actually is: The moment the device becomes a real consumer product instead of a gimmick.


The reality: By Gen 3, three crucial things happen:


1. Hardware Maturity: The crease is finally tolerable, the hinge actually lasts, and the chassis isn't built like a brick.


2. Software Optimization: iOS actually knows what to do with a folding screen instead of just stretching regular apps like ugly accordions.


3. Supply Chain Efficiency: Component costs drop, meaning they can actually put proper cameras and battery capacity into the thing without making it cost as much as a used car.
 
Besides the fact that the phone will have some issues due to the 4:3 form factor (many apps will probably not adapt very fast), I will probably wait for the second foldable phone due to potential mechanical issues (that Apple will probably want to downplay). Also the price will probably be a no-go due to memory…
I am sure they will be updated fairly quickly however I think the prices are only going one way so getting the first version for me is the best option just add Apple Care.
 
Availability might be limited to a few countries in the first 2 to 4 weeks before it becomes available globally, similar to the iPhone X launch.
 
I understand that there are some people who genuinely will find a foldable phone useful, as well as some people who have discretionary income and like to buy new products for the enjoyment of owning something novel, but with the inherent crease and durability issues, it seems to me to be a "me too" item from Apple. But I also underestimated the popularity of iPad, too.
 
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What will be interesting is app developers having to adapt to a 3rd type of device that many won’t be adopting in order to utilize the novelty. Probably will be re-living the time when tablets just had enlarged phone apps. Now will be tablets apps shrunk down to 2 phone screens.
 
As long as I have been following Apple rumors, so for about the last 15 years, DigiTimes has been completely and always full of it.
Anyone remember the teardrop design of the iPhone 5… Which actually was just the iPhone 4S?
Or when they said there absolutely would be no chance of an iPad mini with a retina display… Two days before Apple introduced the iPad mini with a retina display?
Or “AirPods Lite”?


Also, if Apple actually plans on announcing and releasing the iPhone fold this fall, all of the validation testing has long been over, and it absolutely is in mass production.
 
Another iPhone fold DOA report idk who gonna get this it's just like iPhone Air experiment same way with double price iPhone Air
 
1. The 1st Generation: The Overpriced Prototype


What it actually is: A flex for tech influencers and people with more money than patience.


The reality: It’s thick, heavy, battery life is atrocious, and the crease in the middle looks like a miniature Grand Canyon. You open it twice to show off to your friends, and on the third time, a stray dust particle under the screen completely destroys the display.


The verdict: Never buy Gen 1 unless you enjoy crying at Apple Store Genius Bars.


2. The 2nd Generation: The Apology Tour


What it actually is: Apple (or any tech giant) fixing the catastrophic hardware flaws from Gen 1.


The reality: They fix the hinge so dust doesn't instantly ruin your life, make it 1 millimeter thinner, and call it "revolutionary." However, the software is still half-baked, the cameras are stripped down to fit the chassis, and the price tag is still absurdly high. It's the "Sorry we used you as a lab rat last year" model.


3. The 3rd Generation: The Actual Finished Product


What it actually is: The moment the device becomes a real consumer product instead of a gimmick.


The reality: By Gen 3, three crucial things happen:


1. Hardware Maturity: The crease is finally tolerable, the hinge actually lasts, and the chassis isn't built like a brick.


2. Software Optimization: iOS actually knows what to do with a folding screen instead of just stretching regular apps like ugly accordions.


3. Supply Chain Efficiency: Component costs drop, meaning they can actually put proper cameras and battery capacity into the thing without making it cost as much as a used car.
I know you are exaggerating for comic effect, but the truth is that this isn’t really how any recent first-generation Apple products have worked at all.
I can’t remember a recent first-generation Apple product where they changed that much in the second or third generation.
The first generation Apple Watch? Not only cheaper then the second generation, but pretty close to the same design, materials, etc., used to this day.
The first generation AirPods? Other than some design tweaks, basically the same as the basic AirPods 4 that exist today.
The first generation airtags? Again, pretty much the same as the second generation, other than some tiny improvements.
Even the second generation iPhone, the iPhone 3G, had an absolutely identical screen, camera, processor, amount of RAM, and everything else to the original iPhone. The only thing new is a significantly smaller battery, the 3G radio, and GPS. Other than that, it’s hardware was absolutely identical spec for spec with the original.

To start with this ridiculous post, Samsung is the one providing the screens, and they are on their eighth generation of folding devices. Your post implies that Apple is going to have to start from the first generation, like going back to the first galaxy fold back in 2019, but that is just not the case. The folding iPhone is going to be very similar to the folds that Samsung have been releasing the last three years.
Secondly, it’s very likely the second generation and the third generation, if they change much at all, will mostly be chip swaps and camera upgrades. Think X to XS, the only thing that really changed was an added gold color and the A12 instead of the A11.

Thirdly, you are absolutely delusional if you think the retail price of the second or third generation is going to be going down. If anything, it will be the opposite. Remember, the iPhone X started at $999 and people were convinced that price would come down. It has not, it’s likely to go up even further this fall.
 
1. The 1st Generation: The Overpriced Prototype


What it actually is: A flex for tech influencers and people with more money than patience.


The reality: It’s thick, heavy, battery life is atrocious, and the crease in the middle looks like a miniature Grand Canyon. You open it twice to show off to your friends, and on the third time, a stray dust particle under the screen completely destroys the display.


The verdict: Never buy Gen 1 unless you enjoy crying at Apple Store Genius Bars.


2. The 2nd Generation: The Apology Tour


What it actually is: Apple (or any tech giant) fixing the catastrophic hardware flaws from Gen 1.


The reality: They fix the hinge so dust doesn't instantly ruin your life, make it 1 millimeter thinner, and call it "revolutionary." However, the software is still half-baked, the cameras are stripped down to fit the chassis, and the price tag is still absurdly high. It's the "Sorry we used you as a lab rat last year" model.


3. The 3rd Generation: The Actual Finished Product


What it actually is: The moment the device becomes a real consumer product instead of a gimmick.


The reality: By Gen 3, three crucial things happen:


1. Hardware Maturity: The crease is finally tolerable, the hinge actually lasts, and the chassis isn't built like a brick.


2. Software Optimization: iOS actually knows what to do with a folding screen instead of just stretching regular apps like ugly accordions.


3. Supply Chain Efficiency: Component costs drop, meaning they can actually put proper cameras and battery capacity into the thing without making it cost as much as a used car.
Spoken like someone who has never owned a foldable smartphone. None of what you've mentioned in your "The reality" section is even remotely true, not over the past few years anyway.
 
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As for the thrid gen being mature, I still feel burned by iPad 3.
Yeah, I really don’t understand all of the “first generations are bad. Don’t get them”posts. It all seems over-exaggerated to me.

Almost all of the Apple products that actually truly have had terrible first generations, Apple has done absolutely nothing to fix. The HomePod, the AirPods Max. their second generations were pretty much identical, and in the case of the second generation HomePod worse in some aspects.


Most of Apple’s first-generation products actually have pretty damn good quality control, likely because they are worked on so heavily. The first-generation iPhone and iPad, even to this day, hold up like tanks. And even though neither received very long software support, likely because it was 2007 and 2010 and no devices received very long software support, they were not bad purchases when they were on the market.
The first generation iPad was the fastest selling tech device in history at the time, I don’t think they were that many people regretting their purchases.
The third generation iPad… That cannot be said about. It had overheating issues, it had graphics issues, it had an underpowered chip, and it was only on the market for six months.
The third generation iPhone, has been pretty much diminished to a tiny little blip in its history. It was absolutely not as impactful as the first two generations, and far from as interesting or long lasting as its successor in the iPhone 4.

To me, most of the posts that yammer on about how first generations are bad and no one should buy them mainly seem to just have a vendetta against foldable devices and for some reason, have an interest in Apple failing at one. I don’t get it.
But we saw these exact same types of comments when the first iPod, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, AirPods, HomePod, and especially the Vision Pro were introduced. People just want Apple to fail. They always have. It gets their jimmies all juicy.
 
Spoken like someone who has never owned a foldable smartphone. None of what you've mentioned in your "The reality" section is even remotely true.
Well, at least since 2019. All of these things were absolutely true when Samsung introduced their first folding device. But that was almost a decade ago. It would be like saying that Apple shouldn’t make the iPhone because the Newton failed in the previous decade. It would be a ridiculous argument.
 
Unannounced new product has production issues… surprise! We call this “engineering”. It takes time to flush out the gremlins.
 
What will be interesting is app developers having to adapt to a 3rd type of device that many won’t be adopting in order to utilize the novelty. Probably will be re-living the time when tablets just had enlarged phone apps. Now will be tablets apps shrunk down to 2 phone screens.
I mean, not really. The folding iPhone is rumored to have an extremely similar screen and aspect ratio to the first five generations of the iPad mini.
Also, app developers have been building for different size classes for years and years now, Apple has been promoting adaptable apps for the last several years, especially at this year’s WWDC.
It’s very likely that making a proper iPhone fold application will take a couple clicks in Xcode.

We are a long way from the days of the iPhone having one single screen size to develop for, and any change that screen size breaking or requiring letterboxing of all sorts of apps.
 
Well, at least since 2019. All of these things were absolutely true when Samsung introduced their first folding device. But that was almost a decade ago. It would be like saying that Apple shouldn’t make the iPhone because the Newton failed in the previous decade. It would be a ridiculous argument.
Right, I'm not talking about 2019. They had to start somewhere with the first foldable. I don't know anyone who bought the 1st gen Samsung Fold because overall it was garbage, but it was a start. I know people who bought the 2nd gen on though.
 
Right, I'm not talking about 2019. They had to start somewhere with the first foldable. I don't know anyone who bought the 1st gen Samsung Fold because overall it was garbage, but it was a start. I know people who bought the 2nd gen on though.
Yes, I know.
Some of the more, shall we say, cynical posters in this thread seem to be under the belief that Apple is starting from square one, as in Apple is starting from where Samsung was a decade ago, and the last 10 years of updates, improvements, changes, etc. are not going to be taken into account.
When the reality is, it’s currently rumored that the iPhone fold is going to be more durable, more repairable, and more advanced than even the latest galaxy folds that were just introduced yesterday.
 
Yes, I know.
Some of the more, shall we say, cynical posters in this thread seem to be under the belief that Apple is starting from square one, as in Apple is starting from where Samsung was a decade ago, and the last 10 years of updates, improvements, changes, etc. are not going to be taken into account.
When the reality is, it’s currently rumored that the iPhone fold is going to be more durable, more repairable, and more advanced than even the latest galaxy folds that were just introduced yesterday.
Agreed. It makes no sense to think that Apple is starting from square one here. Far from it.
 
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