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Foldable 'iPhone Ultra' Still Likely to Be Missing These Five Features
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I still think Apple should wait until it has triple cameras and Face ID to release it. The average person wasn’t expecting a foldable iPhone possibly ever, let alone this fall. So waiting until it lives up to the “Ultra” name would help it fend off inevitable criticism. If the average person can figure out what they don’t like about it in 5 seconds (outside of a foldable just not being for them), then those are features that should have been added.
This assumes Apple does call it the Ultra. Otherwise who cares, it isn’t Ultra. Ultra is supposed to be above the Pro in every way… don’t confuse people with obvious misses compared with the “lower” Pro.
This assumes Apple does call it the Ultra. Otherwise who cares, it isn’t Ultra. Ultra is supposed to be above the Pro in every way… don’t confuse people with obvious misses compared with the “lower” Pro.
SteveJUAE
macrumors 601
China, Hong kong I think they do not have esim and Iphones are dual physical nano sims there
else
Generally dual physical nano sims are preferred in the far east and not having at least one physical sim could be an issue for many.
They can't put FaceID in because they'd need an array on the inside too, otherwise you'd be forever opening and closing the phone to authenticate things.
TouchID is a conscious design choice, not a concession.
Let’s look at the iPhone Fold for a moment as if it were two separate devices.
As an iPhone
This is ultimately the key question with the iPhone Fold: Does the convenience of having both form factors in a single device outweigh all the compromises required to make that possible?
As an iPhone
- Thicker and heavier than a traditional iPhone
- Narrower and more awkward outer display
- Less comfortable to use one-handed
- Bulkier in your pocket
- Possible compromises in battery capacity
- Potential compromises in camera hardware
- More limited internal space due to the folding mechanism
- Potentially worse thermal performance
- Less rigid and solid than a traditional slab phone
- More expensive to repair
- Much smaller display than a traditional iPad and even iPad mini
- Less ideal aspect ratio for productivity
- Potentially less comfortable for long reading sessions
- Less suitable for watching movies and other video content
- Limited space for multitasking
- Smaller keyboard and typing experience
- Less practical for creative work
- Does not support Apple Pencil
- Smaller battery than a traditional iPad
- The crease is visible and noticeable while using the display
- The folding design may make it less stable when used on a desk or lap
- A more fragile and complex structure
- A folding mechanism that can wear out over time
- Greater risk of damage from drops
- A more vulnerable display
- More expensive repairs
- More moving parts that can potentially fail
- Possible dust and debris issues around the hinge
- Water resistance may be more difficult to achieve
- Higher manufacturing complexity
- A significantly higher price
- Potentially shorter long-term durability compared to traditional devices
This is ultimately the key question with the iPhone Fold: Does the convenience of having both form factors in a single device outweigh all the compromises required to make that possible?
chars1ub0w
macrumors 6502a
Iridescent Caterpillar
macrumors newbie
You could have just said, "I can't afford this device."
IIGS User
macrumors 68000
And until I just read the article here I didn’t put no mm wave support as it uses the C2 modem.
The compromises seem to pile up. Thinner feature set for a much greater cost and the only real upside is portable screen real estate.
Ya know. I had a really real year and this thing drops on a personal anniversary for me when I usually “treat” myself to something. So price be damned if the feature set was rich enough this might be something I would have given some consideration.
But the combination of lacking features. No Face ID. Less capable camera (the camera is an important feature to me). The rumor that it’s going to ship with one of the processor cores disabled for the sake of thermal management is another ding. Not that I would probably even notice but still. Factor in the considerably higher price and it seems like an awful lot of compromises.
So no, this will be a pass for me. Sitting here with a couple extra bucks burning a hole in my pocket, an excuse to spend it, and LOOKING for something to spend it on it’s gonna be the 18PM for me which is a carrier trade in for me at minimum expense.
I know that if I got it I would miss the features in the PM and wish I had gone in that direction. So I’ll be going there.
The compromises seem to pile up. Thinner feature set for a much greater cost and the only real upside is portable screen real estate.
Ya know. I had a really real year and this thing drops on a personal anniversary for me when I usually “treat” myself to something. So price be damned if the feature set was rich enough this might be something I would have given some consideration.
But the combination of lacking features. No Face ID. Less capable camera (the camera is an important feature to me). The rumor that it’s going to ship with one of the processor cores disabled for the sake of thermal management is another ding. Not that I would probably even notice but still. Factor in the considerably higher price and it seems like an awful lot of compromises.
So no, this will be a pass for me. Sitting here with a couple extra bucks burning a hole in my pocket, an excuse to spend it, and LOOKING for something to spend it on it’s gonna be the 18PM for me which is a carrier trade in for me at minimum expense.
I know that if I got it I would miss the features in the PM and wish I had gone in that direction. So I’ll be going there.
I was talking about the device, while you’re attacking me with personal insults. Why?
Does it get under your skin when I criticize this device? Am I not allowed to criticize it? You can be sure I’m going to keep criticizing it now and in the future.
As for your low blow of a comment: I’m pretty sure I can afford this device a lot more easily than you can. You probably need a credit card to buy it and will be paying off that debt for years. Meanwhile, I could buy a whole warehouse full of these without taking out a single loan.
But maybe that’s exactly why I’m wealthy: because I don’t buy useless gimmicky devices on credit.
So just be quiet.
MrMacintoshIII
macrumors 6502a
I’m simply curious: What are you using it for that makes this a deal-breaker? For me i’t just a fast access to calculator.
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TechRunner
macrumors 68030
Whatever people think of missing features, I guarantee you that when your non-tech friends next week asks “have you seen the new iPhone”, they won’t be talking about the 18 Pro.
Yes, having options for people with other tastes and opinions than one self makes the world such a complicated place.
I just hope it will be available where I live at launch, would hate having to wait months to get it here.
MrGimper
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k1121j
macrumors 68020
Like law enforcement, they can force you to unlock your phone with Touch ID but not Face ID
no Apple Pencil support in iPad mode, no Face ID and no telephoto lens is how you get me to not buy it. And I have been waiting to buy it since it was first rumored.
TracerAnalog
macrumors 65816
You know what I won’t be missing? These endless posts about the alleged iPhone Ultra/Fold/Duo.
By the way, is there any news about the IP68 rating of the Duo? 😅
By the way, is there any news about the IP68 rating of the Duo? 😅
jayducharme
macrumors 603
What surprises me the most about this is the lack of stereo speakers. For an iPad-like display made up of two halves geared for content consumption, that would seem like standard equipment.
Razmatazz
macrumors newbie
Made me laugh, ironically, as I don't have to care about that any more.
As for the Ultra or whatever it actually ends up being called, I prefer a small form factor so this certainly isn't a phone for me. Just following the news out of design curiosity.
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