Foldable iPhone's Display Sizes Leaked

[darkslide29]

I realize that this is *just me* but I spend probably < 50 mins/day on my phone, at most, and we already tried the hiptop thing on the 00’s and outside of that one popular Verizon phone that folded in two axis’.

Does anyone need this?

I rather think the Air/razr redux is going to be wildly more popular.

If you’re only using your phone 50 minutes per day, this might not be for you. It would be hard to justify paying 2x the price of an iPhone Pro. Unless you use a iPad more than your phone, then this could potentially be your two-in-one.

I feel self conscious now because my weekly usage report puts me at 6+ hours per day

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

5.5” outer. Might this be as small as an iPhone Mini when folded?

no, 5.5 inches is only the diagonal measurement.
it’s likely apples outside display will be significantly shorter, but significantly wider than Samsung’s solution to provide a more natural aspect ratio for the internal display.
so the actual screen area on the outside display will likely be similar to today’s current Pro Max, just with a different shape.

 

[darkslide29]

5.5 is only the measurement diagonally, it says absolutely nothing about the aspect ratio.
Rumor is that the internal display will be 7.8 inches with a 4X3 aspect ratio. so almost identical to the iPad mini fifth generation and previous.
The outside display is likely to take on a much shorter but much wider 3X2 aspect ratio.
so it’s likely that even while it might only measure at 5.5 inches diagonally, the actual usable screen space will be a lot more similar to today’s Pro Max than a Mini.

not really comparable to Samsung‘s solution, which is that the outside display is tall and narrow. apple’s outside display will be short and wide.

Im intrigued by your insight and am just having a tough time imagining the usable space to be closer to the Pro Max than Mini. I’m sure they trialed many sizes and chose this for a reason.

 

[GioGiusi]

I understand the frustrations with Cook and the lack of innovation while going all in on Vision Pro. And I also get being annoyed that Samsung is already on their 5th (?) gen foldable. But Apple always plays the long game and waited for the bend/hinge technology to be good enough for Apple, and here we are. I’m excited and looking forward to finally see something different than the typical rectangle phone. We’re here as enthusiasts for the latest rumors, after all.

LMAO my frustration with Tim Cook is that he is ditching Apple’s mantra by releasing worthless products like Vision Pro and foldable phablets for no other reason than the price tag.

 

[darkslide29]

LMAO my frustration with Tim Cook is that he is ditching Apple’s mantra by releasing worthless products like Vision Pro and foldable phablets for no other reason than the price tag.

That’s fair and overall I agree with you. I’ll take the disagree reaction, but I agree with you for the same reason I’m mad I paid an extra $100 for my max because they didn’t want to offer the lower storage option.
I guess I just want to be excited about something, anything again.

 

[GioGiusi]

People are going to love the folded size and hate the unfolded size when they realize that this is way too small to be useful for anything. You don’t need two phones side by side. That’s not a tablet, and cannot be used as a tablet. Not even if you pretend.

 

[kaplag]

5.5” outer. Might this be as small as an iPhone Mini when folded?

5.5" and 7.8" are screen sizes but does not tell us the aspect ratio. The thing is some aspect ratio combinations with these two constants of diagonal measures are impossible.

One such impossible combination is a 5.5" outer screen with an iPhone mini aspect ratio. It just doesn't work with a single fold device.

Here's a possible combination that seems most likely to me:

• Make the 7.8" inner screen close to a normal iPad mini aspect ratio.
• The resulting 5.5" folded screen is about as physically wide as the 16 pro max but a bit shorter than an iPhone 13 mini.

No one else in the industry is doing this, are they?

What's interesting about this is Apple maybe even market this as one-handed usable since, although wide, it's not as far to reach top elements. They would also then market how iPad like it is unfolded and how much better this aspect ratio is for watching movies than all there other competitors who ship an oddly square aspect tablet fold.

It's intentional, different, and ownable. And while it looks weird folded... Apple did release the 3rd Generation iPod nano.

So far this is the most logical option and no one else has actually mocked up something trying to use real world measurements and constraints aside from me. Happy to have anyone else try and prove me wrong with other actually possible options if these screen sizes are for real.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

Im intrigued by your insight and am just having a tough time imagining the usable space to be closer to the Pro Max than Mini. I’m sure they trialed many sizes and chose this for a reason.

like this…

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/rumoured-iphone-fold-size-concept-drawing-and-renders.2456447/

also keep in mind the screen resolutions already leaked, it points to the screen being significantly wider than the 12 Mini.

 

[kaplag]

People are going to love the folded size and hate the unfolded size when they realize that this is way too small to be useful for anything. You don’t need two phones side by side. That’s not a tablet, and cannot be used as a tablet. Not even if you pretend.

The original iPad mini screen size was 7.9. This is 7.8. I don't really get your comment. Is it about the awkwardly square aspect ratio people are mocking up without actually using real world dimensions? Or you just think iPad mini is not a valid tablet size. People seem to like it and I can see even more value in an iPad mini that fits in your pocket for illustrators and people who like to read.

 

[erihp]

5.5” outer. Might this be as small as an iPhone Mini when folded?

sounds huge.

wish they'd make a 13 mini sized phone that folded in half.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

People are going to love the folded size and hate the unfolded size when they realize that this is way too small to be useful for anything. You don’t need two phones side by side. That’s not a tablet, and cannot be used as a tablet. Not even if you pretend.

it will literally be almost identical in screen size to the first five generations of iPad mini, I think people will find it perfectly acceptable.
7.8 inches with a 4X3 aspect ratio and a resolution of 2713X1920.
The original iPad Mini was 7.9 inches with a 4X3 aspect ratio at a 2048X1536 resolution.
so not only will the screen be almost identical in size and aspect ratio, it will be significantly higher resolution as well.

 

[nfl46]

So glad Apple is going through with their foldable!

 

[kaplag]

like this…

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/rumoured-iphone-fold-size-concept-drawing-and-renders.2456447/

also keep in mind the screen resolutions already leaked, it points to the screen being significantly wider than the 12 Mini.

Duuuuuuuuuuuude. You did it!

We both came to the same conclusion separately but your mocks are way more legit and technical than my crumby rough mock

I thought I was the only person obsessing over how these measurements don't make sense in real life unless the outer display ends up being short and squat.

I think we need to be friends.

Here was my rough mocks once I worked out that the width of the folded phone would be about as wide as the pro max and that it resulted in a more tablet like aspect ratio for the inner display.

I had made this web app for playing around with different aspect ratios with fixed inner and outer screens where then maybe the gap from the hinge was one unknown. https://codepen.io/kaplag/full/ogXaxLB Once I realized an iPhone mini aspect ratio for the outside screen just wouldn't be physically possible this was the next logical conclusion.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

5.5" and 7.8" are screen sizes but does not tell us the aspect ratio. The thing is some aspect ratio combinations with these two constants of diagonal measures are impossible.

One such impossible combination is a 5.5" outer screen with an iPhone mini aspect ratio. It just doesn't work with a single fold device.

Here's a possible combination that seems most likely to me:

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• Make the 7.8" inner screen close to a normal iPad mini aspect ratio.
• The resulting 5.5" folded screen is about as physically wide as the 16 pro max but a bit shorter than an iPhone 13 mini.

No one else in the industry is doing this, are they?

What's interesting about this is Apple maybe even market this as one-handed usable since, although wide, it's not as far to reach top elements. They would also then market how iPad like it is unfolded and how much better this aspect ratio is for watching movies than all there other competitors who ship an oddly square aspect tablet fold.

It's intentional, different, and ownable. And while it looks weird folded... Apple did release the 3rd Generation iPod nano.


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So far this is the most logical option and no one else has actually mocked up something trying to use real world measurements and constraints aside from me. Happy to have anyone else try and prove me wrong with other actually possible options if these screen sizes are for real.

this is exactly what it will be and the leaked screen resolutions support it.
it also has been done before…

this is basically a very small version of what Apple‘s doing, I’m pretty sure this phone has a 3.5 inch outside display and a 6 inch internal display, but unlike most foldable, it’s at an actual standard tablet aspect ratio.
this is exactly what Apple will do.

 

[rman0726]

There's some amazing renders by @iZac in the below thread.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/rumoured-iphone-fold-size-concept-drawing-and-renders.2456447/

I can see why apple is pursuing that particular form factor; to keep their aspect ratios consistent; but the passport shape is going to take a lot of getting used to for people.

Wish MacRumors would use some of those renders as their stock folding picture instead of the awful one they keep using. lol

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

Duuuuuuuuuuuude. You did it!

We both came to the same conclusion separately but your mocks are way more legit and technical

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wasn’t me, the original poster of that thread made those mock ups. But yes, it does make sense, and is definitely how they will differentiate they’re foldable.

 

[MichaelAdam]

What I am curious about is what will be the weight and the thinness …
But for now I am not happy with the 5.5 screen but never say never once it’s on my hand

 

[F-Trunks]

ohhh man. i can't wait for this spectacular failure lol. How many "Gates" will come from this.

 

[1037]

Who is this phone really for?

 

[kaplag]

this is exactly what it will be and the leaked screen resolutions support it.
it also has been done before…

this is basically a very small version of what Apple‘s doing, I’m pretty sure this phone has a 3.5 inch outside display and a 6 inch internal display, but unlike most foldable, it’s at an actual standard tablet aspect ratio.
this is exactly what Apple will do.

Ah I never saw screen resolution leaks. Just always saw the same stuff about a physical diagonal measures so I ended up doing all this extra work trying to simulate and figure out what possible aspect ratios are. Having the actual pixel dimensions would have made that part cake.

But yea, also had never seen this device. It seems... kinda dumb? I mean It's got all the bad qualities of the flip style folds where basically the outer screen is nearly useless and you'll always be flipping it to do basic things. Then it's not really large enough to get the benefits of a tablet device. It's just an oddly shaped normal phone size when opened.

To be honest I don't know how I feel about all of this as a small phone person.

I really just want an updated mini–no fold. But I can see why Apple would want a product that can possibly appeal to multiple markets. It can be appealing to the "I want new and shiny" people that just like the idea of an expensive folding phone. The iPad mini people who maybe wished they could fit an iPad in their pocket.... and maybe it can appeal to the "I want a small phone with no compromises" crowd. I see the potential if it has Apple Pencil support. An ultra portable digital sketch book would be rad.

But for me personally I don't know this hits the mark for small phone. The more narrow 13 mini body is what makes holding it so much easier than wide phones. And while you'd not have to reach as far for controls (it's almost like always in reachability mode) it still might not be pleasant. I might still end up prioritizing the default onehandability. Maybe I'll feel different in person.

 

[JapanApple]

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[lilkwarrior]

Clam-shell I understand. Two screens on one phone though, it seems over-complicated, over-engineered and gimmicky.

It’a not. There’s been many benefits of foldables including even bifold towards the anticipation of this foldable phone option being pursued by Apple to further accommodate prosumers and productive mobile phone users.

Such segments absolutely benefit from the form factor compared to the slab phone factor.

 

[JapanApple]

So glad Apple is going through with their foldable!

I agree.........So glad Apple is going through with the foldable; the only reason to shut up people's comments about Samsung, etc., foldables. Frankly speaking. I can careless if it's good or not. If successful Company grows bigger, and stock values increase. If not, there is always the form factor that we use now; the company still grows in value as it currently is.

 

[richinaus]

just hoping it doesnt have the same plastic screen appearance the new Samsung fold has [and always has had].

 

[kaplag]

Who is this phone really for?

1. People who love iPad mini, wish it could fit in their pocket, and don't want also carry around a phone.
2. People who want a "no-compromise small phone". I can have a one handed phone when I'm mobile and then open it up to a bigger screen when I can sit with two hands.
3. People who like shiny and different but want Apple to do it.

Other folding phones don't really hit these marks.

1. Flip phones are unusable folded and just an normal phone size unfolded.
2. Other Fold style phones are normal giant phones already and then unfold into a terrible tablet aspect ratio.