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I'm a developer myself and just thought I'll let you guys know, the 3.0 firmware will not be released next monday. This is obvious if you have access to the developer forums, the current version of the 3.0 firmware is loaded with bugs. Not to mention that Apple usually asks developers to submit apps weeks in advance before the release.

So at this point the most likely date is when the new hardware is release so probably some time in July.
 
I'm a developer myself and just thought I'll let you guys know, the 3.0 firmware will not be released next monday. This is obvious if you have access to the developer forums, the current version of the 3.0 firmware is loaded with bugs. Not to mention that Apple usually asks developers to submit apps weeks in advance before the release.

So at this point the most likely date is when the new hardware is release so probably some time in July.

I generally agree with this, as a developer.

I could see Apple giving us one more Beta during WWDC, then over the next month tie things up.
 
I'm a developer myself and just thought I'll let you guys know, the 3.0 firmware will not be released next monday. This is obvious if you have access to the developer forums, the current version of the 3.0 firmware is loaded with bugs. Not to mention that Apple usually asks developers to submit apps weeks in advance before the release.

So at this point the most likely date is when the new hardware is release so probably some time in July.

Um...about the apps part...apps have had to support 3.0 for at least two weeks now if they were updated or resubmitted to the app store.
 
It'd be cool if Apple has some more "unannounced" features in 3.0 that they're waiting for WWDC to announce before the developers get the final few betas... :D
 
It will be late June at the EARLIEST, most likely mid July if the new iPhone comes out then. I expect we may see a Beta 6 next Monday for developers with bug fixes and any new features they may add, but it's insane to believe we'll see a worldwide launch of 3.0 following WWDC.
 
I tend to agree. I hope Beta 5 isn't the final beta. I'm sure they're going to show off video recording with the new iPhone and send out a beta 6 on Monday. Then we'll probably get a few more betas through the month and then the final version will be ready in early July. Just my thoughts.
 
It'd be cool if Apple has some more "unannounced" features in 3.0 that they're waiting for WWDC to announce before the developers get the final few betas... :D

This thread needed to be done. I feel the same as the above quote. They will unveil additional features, release a new beta the work with the developers at WWDC.
 
I'm a developer myself and just thought I'll let you guys know, the 3.0 firmware will not be released next monday ... the most likely date is when the new hardware is release so probably some time in July.

The cheerful optimist in me wants to scream, shout that you're wrong, and possibly stone you.

However, the realist in me is giving a solemn nod of agreement and adding a "+1" to your statement. :(
 
Personally, I don't mind waiting for a 3.0 release if that means it won't be buggy. However, I don't really want to wait until mid-July. Late June-Early July sounds fine but mid-late July just seems like a mistake with the Pre available soon.
 
I wonder if Apple will avoid the craziness of last year, when they released the iPhone 2.0 OS upgrade at virtually the same time they started selling the iPhone 3G

Would be cool to spread that out a bit... Release the iPhone 3.0 OS upgrade a week before the new hardware launch...
 
I wonder if Apple will avoid the craziness of last year, when they released the iPhone 2.0 OS upgrade at virtually the same time they started selling the iPhone 3G

Would be cool to spread that out a bit... Release the iPhone 3.0 OS upgrade a week before the new hardware launch...

I think that crazyness was due to the release of MobileMe, when royally screwed things up.
 
hasn't this all been said on the thread where someone asked if it was feasible?

did it really need another thread just to answer the question? speaking as a non-developer that is ;)
 
I think that crazyness was due to the release of MobileMe, when royally screwed things up.
The biggest issue, IMO, was when people upgrading their original iPhones to 2.0 were held in limbo. After the upgrade, iTunes had to "reactivate" their phone, and the activation servers were overwhelmed (between everyone doing the 2.0 upgrade and everyone else buying iPhone 3Gs and getting them activated in the stores), so sometimes it took HOURS before those upgrading their original iPhone to 2.0 could use their phones again! :eek:

MobileMe was definitely crazy too!
 
I wonder if Apple will avoid the craziness of last year, when they released the iPhone 2.0 OS upgrade at virtually the same time they started selling the iPhone 3G

Would be cool to spread that out a bit... Release the iPhone 3.0 OS upgrade a week before the new hardware launch...

i would think they would do the opposite....release the new iPhone, then put the 3.0 software out a few days afterwards

if they released the 3.0 software for current phones before they release the new phone, they run the risk of having people realize how much the software upgrade improves their phones, thus possibly stopping them from spending money and upgrading the hardware itself.

...but maybe im reading too far into it :)
 
As a developer (since everyone else is adding that to their sentences), I say that 3.0 beta 5 is fairly stable, but there are some bugs that need to be hammered out. However since it has been so long since beta 5 was released, it is possible Apple has sorted those out and will get us beta 6 during WWDC so they can wrap up testing in a week or so.

And MMS still doesn't work on AT&T, driving me crazy.
 
Why not? I just checked the App Store and 2 of my apps are for 3.0 OS updates. Plus if you haven't noticed in iTunes it says it will check for next software update on 6/8/2009.
 
Why not? I just checked the App Store and 2 of my apps are for 3.0 OS updates. Plus if you haven't noticed in iTunes it says it will check for next software update on 6/8/2009.

so what that doesn't make a difference, itunes checks like every 2 weeks mine says 07/06/09
 
Good, I hope they take their time and release a stable and bug free OS unlike 2.0 that sucked last year.
I know everyone is excited about the new features but if it runs like crap then what good is it?
 
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