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iPhone 16 Pro Max For those that Say the 16 Gen is a Bad Upgrade

Cyberguycpt

Cyberguycpt

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Are we not considering that not everyone has a 15th Gen or even a 14th Gen iPhone. On average 61% of IPhone users keep their phone for 2 or more years. At my job all 9 of us have IPhones and I’m the only idiot that needs to upgrade yearly. Most of my workers are over 45 and still have IPhones with a home button. I could only imagine if I went from and IPhone 10 to this one. It would have been mind blowing.
 
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As a 13 Pro Max owner the 16 Pro Max is a MASSIVE Upgrade. It’s all the 15 Pro Max owners who are upset posting that it’s NOT a Good Upgrade.

#1. it’s a bigger Display HELLO !
#2. 8GB of LPDDR5X RAM running at 7500Mhz Vs the 15 Pro Max LPDDR5 RAM runs at 3200Mhz Hello !
#3. 4K HDR @120 FPS video, 15 Pro Max ain’t doing that.
#4. WIFI 7
#5. ARM 9.2 vs ARM 8.6 on the 15 Pro Max
#6. New Stronger Glass
#7. 48MP Ultra Wide faster camera with a dedicated button. The 15 Pro Max is 12MP Ultra Wide.

ill stop here it a massive improvemen.
 
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Cyberguycpt said:
Are we not considering that not everyone has a 15th Gen or even a 14th Gen iPhone. On average 61% of IPhone users keep their phone for 2 or more years. At my job all 9 of us have IPhones and I’m the only idiot that needs to upgrade yearly. Most of my workers are over 45 and still have IPhones with a home button. I could only imagine if I went from and IPhone 10 to this one. It would have been mind blowing.
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Yeah idk why people with a 15 freak out about no major update. It's not like you need to upgrade your phone every year & most people aren't. My 13PM still runs perfectly really, I just damaged the camera thru my own fault & have the money to get a new one. My mother is still on a ten and really wants the new one
 
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Yeah idk why people with a 15 freak out about no major update. It's not like you need to upgrade your phone every year & most people aren't. My 13PM still runs perfectly really, I just damaged the camera thru my own fault & have the money to get a new one. My mother is still on a ten and really wants the new one
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Exactly, I think it is kind of a flex that someone could say that their year old phone is still running great and no need to upgrade. I can remember on previous iPhones where there was some clear issues that people were flocking to upgrade the iPhone, remember Antenna Gate or Bend Gate, battery Gate. The 15 Pro/Max was just that good.
 
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TheRealAlex said:
As a 13 Pro Max owner the 16 Pro Max is a MASSIVE Upgrade. It’s all the 15 Pro Max owners who are upset posting that it’s NOT a Good Upgrade.

#1. it’s a bigger Display HELLO !
#2. 8GB of LPDDR5X RAM running at 7500Mhz Vs the 15 Pro Max LPDDR5 RAM runs at 3200Mhz Hello !
#3. 4K HDR @120 FPS video, 15 Pro Max ain’t doing that.
#4. WIFI 7
#5. ARM 9.2 vs ARM 8.6 on the 15 Pro Max
#6. New Stronger Glass
#7. 48MP Ultra Wide faster camera with a dedicated button. The 15 Pro Max is 12MP Ultra Wide.

ill stop here it a massive improvemen.
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Man loving the new screen. Just mad I didn’t order a case to be here on launch. Been babying it all day. lol. And it definitely feels snappier. Initially was not going to upgrade because I felt like there was no need, but I’m definitely glad that I did it anyways.
 
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Even those coming from 12 or 13 Pro/Max, it's an incremental upgrade. The 8GB RAM holds the 16 Pro/Max back.

The 48MP sensor came with the 14/15 series. The 15 Pro/Max added 8GB. The 16 series is kinda meh, especially for Pro/Max.
 
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TheRealAlex said:
As a 13 Pro Max owner the 16 Pro Max is a MASSIVE Upgrade. It’s all the 15 Pro Max owners who are upset posting that it’s NOT a Good Upgrade.

#1. it’s a bigger Display HELLO !
#2. 8GB of LPDDR5X RAM running at 7500Mhz Vs the 15 Pro Max LPDDR5 RAM runs at 3200Mhz Hello !
#3. 4K HDR @120 FPS video, 15 Pro Max ain’t doing that.
#4. WIFI 7
#5. ARM 9.2 vs ARM 8.6 on the 15 Pro Max
#6. New Stronger Glass
#7. 48MP Ultra Wide faster camera with a dedicated button. The 15 Pro Max is 12MP Ultra Wide.

ill stop here it a massive improvemen.
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There is more. The changes are under the surface:

#8. better cooling system
#9. better processor
#10. faster charging (Which I do not care)

..and I think I forgot something as well.
 
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No, temperatures are higher but it is not throttling anymore. So that is upgrade for me
 
The iPhone 16 still got a much less versatile camera system that was crippled by Apple on purpose to differentiate between the Pro and the regular models: The similarly priced 15 Pro from last year still offers twice the amount of focal length equivalents compared to the 16. The 16 is missing the 28mm, the 35mm, and of course the 77mm/120mm focal lengths.

In the real world very few users care about a "better cooling system" or a better SoC, most users have no idea whether their device is powered by a Qualcomm SoC, Exynos, or even that Apple designs their own. There is no faster wired charging either, this was tested and proven to be a wrong rumor by now. (Ok, there is faster wireless charging.)

And please try to find a single iPhone user in the world who knows or cares about whether their iPhone supports Wifi 7. Most people use whatever Wifi their cheap ISP provided routers come with.

What users are more likely to notice is an additional zoom lens or a smoother UI in 120Hz. And for people who want to use the Pro features like Proraw, log video, the older 15 Pro still offers all that and was available with solid carrier promotions for the last few weeks.

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As a 13 Pro Max owner the 16 Pro Max is a MASSIVE Upgrade.
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Yet the number one massive upgrade you cite is an increase in display size from 6.7" to 6.9" immediately followed by a clock speed increase of the memory, that's really creative I'll give you that. Filming 4k at 120fps is another massive upgrade you mention, remind me how that will make a difference for you in filming 4k video?

Your post comes down to bigger number better than smaller number. Except for the stronger glass, which jerryrigeverything just made a video about showing it scratches at level 6 with deeper groves at level 7.

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Are we not considering that not everyone has a 15th Gen or even a 14th Gen iPhone.
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And for those a 14/15 or 15 pro would still be a fantastic upgrade at a lower price point.
 
And for those a 14/15 or 15 pro would still be a fantastic upgrade at a lower price point.[/QUOTE]



Agreed, but many would probably want to future proof as well. I have AT&T they are offering $1000 off the new iPhone Pros with trade in of a IPhone 12 or higher. You can basically trade in a 12 and get the IPhone 16 Pro for free with 36 monthly credits. At that point why get a 14 or 15.
 
Upgraded my 12 pro to 16 pro and my findings are….. It’s OK, but I could’ve gone another year without the upgrade. Being a senior citizen, call quality is needed, texting, Apple Pay, some photos, and some YouTube, along with banking apps is all I really care about. This new one will be a keeper for the next four years unless I croak. 🤪
 
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The iPhone 16 still got a much less versatile camera system that was crippled by Apple on purpose to differentiate between the Pro and the regular models: The similarly priced 15 Pro from last year still offers twice the amount of focal length equivalents compared to the 16. The 16 is missing the 28mm, the 35mm, and of course the 77mm/120mm focal lengths.
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Of course. It only has two actual lenses. Anything else is just cropping. The Pro has three lenses.
 
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Of course. It only has two actual lenses. Anything else is just cropping. The Pro has three lenses.
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The hardware of the iPhone 16 is perfectly capable of providing 28mm and 35mm at full 12MP resolution, Apple disabled it in software on purpose. This has nothing to do with the third lens as that only provides a single focal length equivalent yet iPhone 16 is missing three.
 
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an upgrade is still an upgrade, even it is incremental its still an upgrade. Judge it urself and experience it yourself before deciding . instead getting easily sway by opinions and whatnot.
 
14+ to 16 Pro = major updates (AOD, WiFi, SOS, Camera, 4K.....)

Real reason:
Apple Card financing made me do it (upgrade every other year).
 
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