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I prefer to...

  • jailbreak

    Votes: 126 42.3%
  • not jailbreak

    Votes: 172 57.7%

  • Total voters
    298
I have jailbroken it before the 4.2 update just to see what it had to offer from when i had my iphone 3g and had that jailbroken. After there was nothing really much that i personally would use or interested me i just decided to go back to stock. I mean the only thing really was the nice lock screen but just felt like some others have said that theres really no reason to jailbreak it. iOS 4.x.x is to me really nice how it out the box.
 
love my jaibreak

mostly do it so that i can disable that horrid multi-tasking, without it the phone is so much faster! Also the themes and video wallpapers also sweeten the deal. You gotta understand though that the majority of people on these forums are old timers that don't like to tamper and just use their phone...as a phone! lol
 
Phone or Boyfriend

Ladies if you had one choice between your phone or boyfriend for the rest of your life what would it be?:apple:
 
I love jailbreaking because of all the second rate apps and garish themes!

On a more serious note, I don't like jailbreaking but I've done so just for My3G, because I want to use my data.
 
SO the final answer to your question is:

Maybe not but you are totally unable to bring factual / objective and valid arguments which is not giving you credibility.

I'm not beign ignorant to your reasons, your reasons are totally irrationnal and unfactual....

Jailbreaking benefits are facts

- Possibility to install third party apps
- Total control over your device
- ETC ETC

I am bringing my personal opinion to the table, I could argue both for and against, right now I haven't jailbroken so these are my reasons. This thread is asking for REASONS why people don't jailbreak.

When a person decides to do something, they often rely on opinion over facts - in this case to JB. Opinion will take into the facts they know, and any previous experiences.

On the face of it their PRIOR knowledge puts them off because of all the reasons I stated. Obviously a community such as MR will have researched the facts rather than relying solely on opinion.

The facts DO show that it there is hardly any disadvantage of jailbreaking. However my OPINION (and at the end of the day that's what I will always make my decisions on), says that I shouldn't JB.

Right that should of cleared up the confusion of FACTS v OPINION...

- Jailbreaking does not make your device any slower?

I agree that jailbreaking does not make the device any slower, however the things you do AFTER jailbreaking can make your device slower and unstable. Let's face it why jailbreak, when the only add ons you want will make your device slower (Substrate).

- Jailbreaking only takes 10 seconds?

Then you have to add the add ons that you want, then read round for guides on how to get certain add ons / apps to work. Which takes time.

People who have never jailbroken would probably not be bothered with this, but ex-JBers may not want to go through the hassle again. - this is an opinion, my opinion but it's part of the fact that says "people think that it takes too long."

- Warranty is intact?

I have sent back two devices which were previously jailbroken and both got replaced. However the general assumption of the public is that it does void warranty, (just look at the amount of threads that say "Does it void warranty?").

Here's a scenario: Your devices breaks when on holiday, you have no access to a computer to restore, and you need it for the remaining holiday, would you just walk to an apple store with a JB device? (I know there are story's that this is fine - but simply for piece of mind).

- Battery life is not reduced?

Are you seriously asking for facts that battery life is reduced? The simple fact that more processes are getting processed via the device (substrate), means that more battery will be consumed. Again this is my opinion, if this were not true - where would I get this view from?

- A device that is JB is just as likely as a non-JB device to crash?

This again is to what you download on your device, but of course why jailbreak if your not going to download things for it? In my personal experience my phone which is roughly 4 months old has never crashed / gone in safety mode. Whereas my previous device which was jailbroken would often go into safety mode, would get stuck in loops when trying to jailbreak.

- Ignorant people like simplicity?

Fact? or just your opinion? where are you getting this from?

Simplicity is not just for ignorant people, my grandparents would pay more for something which is simpler to use, not because they are ignorant, but because they can't cope with using a more complicated device.


To sum this all up, people rationalize whether they should JB or they should not JB. Each person has their own opinion, and it can change - I'm proof of this (if your going to ask for evidence).

Remember this thread is asking why people don't jailbreak, not what are the disadvantages of jailbreaking.
 
I only JB for unlocking purposes but i don't need that anymore and therefore haven't JB since iPhone 3G
 
I DON'T WANT TO JAILBREAK MY iPhone 4!
Because I don't want to wait for an update, to have a lot of crashes. And I prefer to pay 50$ for ALL the apps I NEED, than to cheat them :)
 
I DON'T WANT TO JAILBREAK MY iPhone 4!
Because I don't want to wait for an update, to have a lot of crashes. And I prefer to pay 50$ for ALL the apps I NEED, than to cheat them :)

That's perfectly laudable, but your device is capable of things that it cannot do with applications you purchase from the Apple store.

In my case, I want a good call and text firewall. The only way to have one is to jailbreak.

I was able to restrict my calls even as far back as the old Motorola V3i and Motorola Q9h, but I cannot do it via the firmware or anything in the Apple store unless I jailbreak my iPhone 4.

This is a legitimate and much sought after service that simply isn't provided with the out of the box iPhone 4.
 
Its your choice to do what you want with your phone but to put out false assumptions that you will not be able to make phone calls cause your iphone is JB is pretty ignorant.
Also jailbreaking is not illegal.

- I did not put out assumptions (do you know the meaning of that word?) that I will not be able to make phone calls because my phone is jailbroken. I stated that the risk of malfunction is greater with a jailbroken phone than with a phone that is not jailbroken.
Also, what do you know about the laws in my country of residence?
 
1,000,000+ Everyday there is a thread that starts

I wanna Jailbreak how?

My JB phone rarely crashes, not Slow no Battery issues. If Apple ever figures out how to lock me out of JB I'd say that will be my last iPhone.

it's not for everybody and I don't think it should be.

Same with me.
All of these people saying performance issues always happen you are just wrong.
Try jailbreaking and optimizing and you will see a speed increase.
The way i see it is that apple didnt include everything you want originally, but also added some stuff u may not want.
 
I used to be anti jailbreak but one day I did it and its the best thing ive ever done to my phone. Also, jailbreaking doesnt automatically mean free apps and cheating the app store out of money. I dont do that and many seem to think thats what JB is for. I cannot live without some of my jailbroken tweaks:

Bite SMS - compose/reply text messages from any app/lock screen. Also set custom text tones.

MyWi - Turn my phone into a wireless hotspot to use internet on my laptop when there isnt any internet where I am.

Infini Dock - Scroll left and right on your dock. I keep my main dock the phone, text, safari, ipod, and camera. Scroll to the left and I have webpage bookmarks. Scroll to the right I have all my folders. Keeps my phone simple and looking good without the crappy looking folders everywhere.

Snap Tap - Can use volume buttons to snap a pic instead of touch the damn screen.

Weather Icon - Shows the current temp on apples weather icon and the picture changes with the weather.

With all this plus more Ive had zero crashes and completely normal battery drain. People who bash JB just plain havent tried it or didnt give it a chance plain and simple.
 
Yes, it is (in my country of residence). I stated this in one of my earlier posts.

+45 60947576

That is the number of a firm called, simply, iPhoneUnlocking. They're right in the middle of Copenhagen.

What they are doing is unlawful? How do they get around it?
 
www.iphoneunlocking.dk

Looks like they have a pretty healthy business going on, unlocking and jailbreaking in Copenhagen.

I'd like more details about this. I think that the poster who is saying that it is illegal in Denmark must have misunderstood something that somebody has told him, or the person was referring to something slightly different, like modifying a phone specifically to use data in a manner that the contract with the provider does not allow.
 
i really dont think it is illegal in any country. people use to say it was in america too but it really was niether legal nor illegal. apple said we dont want it and apple lovers that will give their life for apple spreaded that it was illeagal even tho it wasnt ever.
 
i really dont think it is illegal in any country.
Well, there's certainly a lot of visible evidence that it appears to be perfectly legal in Denmark.

I do not want to appear to contradict the poster who said that it was illegal. It seemed so astonishing that I looked around a bit, that's all.

It could still be illegal in Denmark, though unlikely, and it's possible somebody told him something that was misunderstood.
 
I doubt you know much about the laws in your country.

- That's a pretty arrogant attitude...

Applejuiced said:
I'd like you to show me someone in any country that got in trouble for jb.

- I do not know of anyone who has gotten in trouble for jailbreaking. Just like I don't know of anyone who has gotten in trouble for murdering a person with that person's consent (another thing which is illegal in Denmark).
The fact that I don't know of anyone who has gotten in trouble for any given activity does not make that acitivity legal.

George Knighton said:
+45 60947576

That is the number of a firm called, simply, iPhoneUnlocking. They're right in the middle of Copenhagen.

What they are doing is unlawful? How do they get around it?

- Yes, it is unlawful to jailbreak. Everyone can "get around" something illegal if it is not tried in a court of law. Believe it or not, illegal activities do occur - often without consequences. Du you, in your country, have a perfect legal system where nothing illegal ever occurs?

George Knighton said:
www.iphoneunlocking.dk

Looks like they have a pretty healthy business going on, unlocking and jailbreaking in Copenhagen.

- I think so, yes. But then again, so do various underground pushers who are selling ecstasy and marijuana. The fact that they "have a pretty healthy business going on" does not make their business legal.

George Knighton said:
I'd like more details about this.

- Certainly. Here is the Danish copyright law:
https://www.retsinformation.dk/Forms/R0710.aspx?id=129901
And here is an article from a respected Danish newspaper in which a specialized lawyer, who is on the board of directors of the association "Danske IT-advokater" (translates to: Danish IT lawyers), and a security expert states that jailbreaking is illegal and that you can be legally pursued for it:
http://www.business.dk/tech-mobil/du-maa-ikke-pille-ved-iphone-i-danmark

If you do not understand the language, you can use Google Translate to translate the websites (although this translation won't be perfect).


George Knighton said:
Well, there's certainly a lot of visible evidence that it appears to be perfectly legal in Denmark.

- I haven't seen any...


As I understand the situation in the United States, the reason jailbreaking is legal is that there has been made an amendment to your copyright law, which grants users the right to jailbreak. We have no such amendment in Denmark.
 
As I understand the situation in the United States, the reason jailbreaking is legal is that there has been made an amendment to your copyright law, which grants users the right to jailbreak. We have no such amendment in Denmark.
Apple challenged under copyright law, and lost. There wasn't really an amendment as much as there was a binding interpretation of the law by the Library of Congress and the federal court system.

Thank you very much for the link, which certainly helps us to understand better the position you are taking. I do not understand the differences between how Danish law is used and how it contrasts with how similar language would be used in English and Scottish law. What I appear to be reading could be interpreted to give the user of an appliance who modifies the appliance to get more use out of it a greater latitude than what you are ascribing to it.

I have to surrender to what I assume to be your first hand knowledge of how Denmark uses this law, and I hope you will excuse us for continuing to wonder how a number of companies could be in what appears to be big business jailbreaking iPhones!
 
Okay.

Hmmm. As I am interpreting the links you gave me, the PDF exploit would have been legal in Denmark, because it interposed something between the boot ROM and the firmware.

It's an additional piece of programming. It did not modify the programming that came with the phone.

Apple appear to sell the iPhone in Denmark with an attempt to specifically licence and limit it to what is provided in the paperwork with the iPhone. The Danish statutes you showed me do not really literally allow this, so I have a feeling that the company in Copenhagen that advertises jailbreaking and unlocking services is likely not doing anything illegal.

The language that you are using in Denmark would not fly in England or the United States. When it got to the House of Lords, it just wouldn't work.

I want to thank our Danish correspondent for being such a good sport about this and giving us the information to see what exactly he was talking about.

Although I am sure it was annoying for him, at least we've been led to understand what is going on, and now we can understand why that company is in business at the same time that our posting friend can truthfully say that it is illegal. :)
 
- That's a pretty arrogant attitude...



- I do not know of anyone who has gotten in trouble for jailbreaking. Just like I don't know of anyone who has gotten in trouble for murdering a person with that person's consent (another thing which is illegal in Denmark).
The fact that I don't know of anyone who has gotten in trouble for any given activity does not make that acitivity legal.



- Yes, it is unlawful to jailbreak. Everyone can "get around" something illegal if it is not tried in a court of law. Believe it or not, illegal activities do occur - often without consequences. Du you, in your country, have a perfect legal system where nothing illegal ever occurs?



- I think so, yes. But then again, so do various underground pushers who are selling ecstasy and marijuana. The fact that they "have a pretty healthy business going on" does not make their business legal.



- Certainly. Here is the Danish copyright law:
https://www.retsinformation.dk/Forms/R0710.aspx?id=129901
And here is an article from a respected Danish newspaper in which a specialized lawyer, who is on the board of directors of the association "Danske IT-advokater" (translates to: Danish IT lawyers), and a security expert states that jailbreaking is illegal and that you can be legally pursued for it:
http://www.business.dk/tech-mobil/du-maa-ikke-pille-ved-iphone-i-danmark

If you do not understand the language, you can use Google Translate to translate the websites (although this translation won't be perfect).




- I haven't seen any...


As I understand the situation in the United States, the reason jailbreaking is legal is that there has been made an amendment to your copyright law, which grants users the right to jailbreak. We have no such amendment in Denmark.

Its funny when people are convinced theyre right when they actually have no idea or any evidence. In the mind of this guy: Jailbreak and you go to jail" lol
 
Wow. So many uneducated users on here when it comes to jailbreaking. If you jailbreak and don't research what is out there in the jailbreak community, of course you're going to think it's not worth it.

If you jailbreak and mess with a bunch of themes and Winterboard to the point that you phone slows down substantially, then of course you're going to think jailbreaking is garbage.

But if you jailbreak and download the features that are worth downloading like My3G, MyWi, biteSMS, SBSettings, Installous, and get accustom to those features, you'll NEVER want to go without them again.

That is the difference between the average (uneducated) jailbreaker and the rest.
 
I used to Jailbreak my Original iPhone, iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS, but not my iPhone 4.

Lately their seems to be less reasons to do so, and to be honest, I got tired of the cat and mouse game that the Dev team and Apple seems to have. Not being able to update my iPhone because I had to wait for the Dev team to say it was OK or to wait for an update from them kind of sucked. Not to mention performance issues.


This is me to a tee. :D

Was sick of wondering when something would go wrong, if it was the phone or the jailbreak.
 
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