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I prefer to...

  • jailbreak

    Votes: 126 42.3%
  • not jailbreak

    Votes: 172 57.7%

  • Total voters
    298
It was part of a talk that Pinch Media (now part of Flurry?) gave at a developer's meeting. Don't know if they have that data online. (And a game developer sitting near me said his percentages for "modified" apps reporting high scores to him were a lot higher than what Pinch was reporting.)

Where do you get the evidence from for your contrary opinion? How large a statistical sample set? Smaller or larger than Pinch analytic's reporting base?

My guess would be alot smaller percentage than 50% of all JB iphones pirate apps.
I know that less than 10% of all iphones sold are JB but I have no evidence either on the amount of the JB iphones running hacked IPA's.
 
Just to say a few things.

Most people that jailbreak and then say it is nothing special don't know what the hell to do after jailbroken. The one click jailbreak is prob a reason for this.

Next many fall into the "my warranty" bs

Then many come up with it crashes ect. It crashed back on iOS 2.0 with the 3G. Why do you think the 3G is crashing on stock firmware now? Adding stuff to such slow hardware causes probs weather it be the user doing it or apple. The 3GS and 4 are fine jailbroken.

Next yes many do steal apps for the main reason for jailbreaking. Sad really. I jailbroke when the app store was like a few weeks old so there wasn't this stuff around. But I do admit that I will use installous to TRY an app I'm not to sure about. If it is crap I delete. If not I will buy.
 
I don't jailbreak because I think apps are not expensive and it's good to keep the developers fed - they needed the money to create better apps for us. I feel that I need to contribute to build this 'eco system'
 
A few reasons that I won't jailbreak my iPhones going forward:

1) Past experiences - MY past experiences of jailbreaking aren't all that great. Slow down, freezing etc all happening after the jailbreak but never before. I most recently jailbroke my phone a week or so back and only installed 1 application (MyWi - to use with my iPad), but within a few days I had to restore due to my phone slowing down and freezing. Not putting up with that for anything. Factory settings give you a more reliable phone, period.

2) Cat and Mouse game - When Apple release new software, I don't want to wait a few weeks for it to be jailbroken with a nice GUI and then a few weeks more for the early adopters to work out the bugs - and even then I find there are still plenty of application crippling bugs! I like just upgrading when Apple announce the update. I don't want to run around haxxoring my phone...it's a phone, not a PC. If it's not reliable 24/7, then it's failing me as a tool.

3) Software - Reasons to jailbreak are reducing quickly. MyWi is about the only thing that's worth a damn at the moment. The rest of the apps have some great ideas but are poorly designed and implemented. I'll wait for them to be done right or not at all thanks.

Each to their own but those are my 3 main reasons.

Exactly my reasoning.

I've Jailbroken my 3G and my current 4. Both times, it made my phone clunky, slow and not the way the phone should be. I've come to hate it. I no longer want to Jailbreak any of my iOS devices, solely based on past experiences.
 
I tried it once months back for a day, just for the hell of it. In the end I unjailbroke it because I A.) felt unsecure (aka, someone could hack it easier since I used an exploit to jailbrake it). Yes, bit of a stupid reason, but still, a reason. B.) Didn't use much of the jailbroken features. Multitasking was interesting, but now, with iOS 4.0, it doesn't matter. Overall, I like my iphone just the way it is, and don't need to jailbrake it to get features I really don't care about.
 
According to stats, almost 50% of jb'ers "steal" copyrighted Paid iOS apps (versus none for stock OS users). As an app developer, why do I want to be a part of that group or give them any moral support whatsoever?
Like you've never "stolen" a movie, some music or a video game :rolleyes:.

Most people who criticize people who use AppSync are hypocrites. Not saying you are, but there's a big chance you are. :apple:
 
Jailbreaking doesn't add anything I need. I'm sure there are some cool things out there but none of them are necessary. When I find something I need I'll jailbreak.
 
4.2 has erased my custom carrier which i created with MIM on my old 3g. I always restored from backup and on non jailbroken devices my custom carrier always remained. But since updating yesterday its gone back to the dull O2-UK in the top left corner. So obviously some sort of fix is in the update. Which is somewhat dissapointing as i liked the individuality of my iphone 4 even though it wasnt jailbroken. Like the hack was called, it 'made it mine'...
 
4.2 has erased my custom carrier which i created with MIM on my old 3g. I always restored from backup and on non jailbroken devices my custom carrier always remained. But since updating yesterday its gone back to the dull O2-UK in the top left corner. So obviously some sort of fix is in the update. Which is somewhat dissapointing as i liked the individuality of my iphone 4 even though it wasnt jailbroken. Like the hack was called, it 'made it mine'...

you can do this without jailbreaking. http://www.icopybot.com/blog/change-iphone-carrier-name-and-time-string-without-jailbreak.htm
 
Exactly my reasoning.

I've Jailbroken my 3G and my current 4. Both times, it made my phone clunky, slow and not the way the phone should be. I've come to hate it. I no longer want to Jailbreak any of my iOS devices, solely based on past experiences.

Do people not realize that the only thing the Jailbreak process does is give you access to root internal file system. THAT'S IT. Even the Cydia installation is optional with Limera1n. Even if you installed Cydia, it literally does nothing unless you run it. The reason I know this is that it doesn't even give you update badges until after you load up the app. If you Jailbroke someone's phone without them knowing and was able to remove the Cydia icon, they would never notice anything changed without examining the file system.

Anything you install afterwards that makes your phone "slow" is just your own fault. If the only thing you installed after jailbreaking was SBSettings (which autoinstalls Mobile Substrate, activator, and SBSettingsToggles ) and left it at the default configuration, the phone would be still WAY more user friendly just giving you access to those quick toggles. (wifi, 3g, processes, brightness etc)

The difference in battery with SBSettings is negligable. I tested a few nights and it's about 1 extra percent in 6 hours of standby (over night)
 
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I JB'd for the first time using jailbreakme.com and then again with Limera1n. In both cases I've never had any issues with slowness, crashes or other issues that come with the territory. Maybe I'm just lucky in that sense from reading all the "HELP ME!" threads in the hack section.

As for my reasoning for JB'ing, it allows me to use the phone the way I want to and not how it's supposed to be used. Most of my tweaks are SB based so letting me use mods like FolderEnhancer, Infinidock and Activator (to name a few) makes the UI A LOT better than what it used to be. To each his/her own I guess but I really like the way my phone acts/looks now thanks to JB.

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Jailbroke every one of my phones ever owned.. My original 2G, my 3GS, and now my iP4, using jailbreaks from Zibri, DevTeam, geohot, comex, etc. I Never had any issues what so ever. Now, i don't put on tons of useless crap and themes which were most likely the culprit, not to mention how ugly and god awful they are; much like early windows desktop themes and geocities web pages :D. I will continue to jailbreak until it is no longer an option.
 
Jailbroke every one of my phones ever owned.. My original 2G, my 3GS, and now my iP4, using jailbreaks from Zibri, DevTeam, geohot, comex, etc. I Never had any issues what so ever. Now, i don't put on tons of useless crap and themes which were most likely the culprit, not to mention how ugly and god awful they are; much like early windows desktop themes and geocities web pages :D. I will continue to jailbreak until it is no longer an option.

Totally agree. I've jailbreak many iPhones and the only ones that have had any sort of performance issues have when the ones with the Winterboard theming software on them. Otherwise there is virtually no other downside.

I keep my iPhone jailbroken for one reason. MyWi, so I get get online with my iPad wherever I am. Oh, and My3G for facetime over 3g. Oh and SBSettings for quick access to toggles for wifi, bluetooth, ect.
 
I was against JBing until I bought my MBP. I was on the phone with a local ISP and hung up in his face when I remembered about MyWi. But after installing a bad app that I HAD researched prior to buying rendered my phone completely useless, I'm against it again. Especially since the new JB is tethered. That's scary.
 
I was against JBing until I bought my MBP. I was on the phone with a local ISP and hung up in his face when I remembered about MyWi. But after installing a bad app that I HAD researched prior to buying rendered my phone completely useless, I'm against it again. Especially since the new JB is tethered. That's scary.

so even though your research concluded it to be a bad app, you installed anyways...wouldnt that be your fault? or if you researched it to be a good app, you installed it and rendered your phone useless, isnt that user error?

so anyways, it is your fault that your phone became useless, but blaming jb because installing 1 app that screwed your phone is a weak excuse. there are many people that have successfully jb their phone by following instructions and have no problems at all.
 
I jailbroke my iPhone last Sunday. This past Friday, I restored it back to the factory settings. Other than customizing the lock screen, I wasn't using any jailbreak features at all. I had no software issues in the week I was JB, but for me, I was just tired of it, so I decided I was more than happy going back to the way my iPhone was prior to me JBing it.

I will note that I did have my 3G JB for quite sometime, primarily for the multitasking, but that's already been addressed in iOS 4.0.
 
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I'm not sure how it's a pain to jailbreak. I've done two versions and both took less than 5 minutes.

I have pretty much zero performance or battery issues.

I love the Lock Info screen. Almost enough reason for me right there.

This.
 
I've been using Macs for many years, and I'm always telling people that Apple under-specs it's products for a reason. They know very well that thyre capable of much mor than they tell you, but they want the end user experience to be the best that it can be. It's the same with jailbreaking. Apple knows the the hardware will handle a lot more out of the box than they tell you, but there are risks. Jailbreaking is great for those who realize these risks, but for most everyday users it's just safer to stick with the product as it is. The overall performance and reliability of your product - be it a Mac or an iPhone -will be better.

So when I jailbroke my iPhone 3G this summer I really should have remebered all of this. I used jailbreakme.com. I had some performance issues afterward, although I attribute some of them to the OS upgrade I did at the same time. I was really starting to be frustrated with my phone. I've since restored and gone back to OS 3.1.3 and it's like having a brand new phone. The only thing that I miss is running Fugu on my Mac and connecting with my phone over WiFi. I could really start to see some cool uses for that, although the performance degradation wasn't worth it.
 
so even though your research concluded it to be a bad app, you installed anyways...wouldnt that be your fault? or if you researched it to be a good app, you installed it and rendered your phone useless, isnt that user error?

so anyways, it is your fault that your phone became useless, but blaming jb because installing 1 app that screwed your phone is a weak excuse. there are many people that have successfully jb their phone by following instructions and have no problems at all.

No, the app was listed as compatible. That's the whole point. JB has advantages but it is still dangerous. Sorry.
 
I personally like the iOS the way it is and would prefer not to jailbreak. Unfortunately, to unlock the phone, I don't think there is an option to do so without jailbreaking. I will be traveling abroad in January and possibly again within the next 12 months and while I'm outside the US, I'd prefer to swap my SIM for a local one rather than swap my phone for another.

I bought my first iPhone less than a couple of weeks back and it came loaded with iOS 4.1. So now, I'm wondering if I should JB and unlock before I travel, or just update to iOS 4.2.1 w/o JB and use another phone while in another country.:confused:
 
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