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kas23

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I'm kinda sick of people on here saying that the antenna reception issue is being blown out of proportion by a "vocal minority" or the problem is just a "few isolated cases". Many have seen this, but for those people mentioned about, how can you explain these numbers?
 

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Agreed poll that anyone can vote whatever they want to skew results doesn't really convince me of anything.
 
The poll means nothing. See any of my posts on this “poll.” I’m tired of repeating myself.

I agree. If you're participating in the poll in the first place, there is a chance you're a member of a forum such as MacRumors..which represents a very small amount of Apple's users.
 
I'm kinda sick of people on here saying that the antenna reception issue is being blown out of proportion by a "vocal minority" or the problem is just a "few isolated cases". Many have seen this, but for those people mentioned about, how can you explain these numbers?

This chart has me convinced that this is a scientifically controlled study with no leading questions or selection bias.
 
how can you explain these numbers?

People without problems won't be looking for solutions on the internet and won't come across this poll. On the other hand, people with problems will seek out solutions on a site like this and will vote in this poll. The numbers are bias.
 
This chart has me convinced that this is a scientifically controlled study with no leading questions or selection bias.

It's really not supposed to.

The point it makes is that these "problems", which are either real or perceived, are NOT isolated and it is not just due to a "vocal minority".

Even if you take all the "yes" votes, decrease them by 50% (due to error or whatever), it still shows that this "problem" is not just popping up as a few isolated cases.

And even you take everyone else in the US who hasn't responded and placed them in the "no" category, 14,000 iPhones is nothing to shrug at. 14,000 defective products that could potentially need to be replaced is rather large.

People without problems won't be looking for solutions on the internet and won't come across this poll. On the other hand, people with problems will seek out solutions on a site like this and will vote in this poll. The numbers are bias.

True. But, it does have a little nice "control" in it, for people who would say that people not having trouble are less likely to participate in the poll. 19,000 people who don't even own an iPhone 4 voted in the poll.
 
And even you take everyone else in the US who hasn't responded and placed them in the "no" category, 14,000 iPhones is nothing to shrug at. 14,000 defective products that could potentially need to be replaced is rather large.

Considering that analysts are saying that apple sold about 1.5 million iPhones 14,000 would be less than 1% seems like the vocal minority to me
 
The poll means nothing. See any of my posts on this “poll.” I’m tired of repeating myself.

This poll doesn't mean "nothing". It means about half of MacRumors.com readers are affected.

arn
 
True. But, it does have a little nice "control" in it, for people who would say that people not having trouble are less likely to participate in the poll. 19,000 people who don't even own an iPhone 4 voted in the poll.

You don't research a product before you buy it? There are also plenty of us who are holding out for the White iPhone or couldn't get one at launch. We're frequenting the boards as its a good way to keep up occupied during the extra month we have to wait.
 
This poll doesn't mean "nothing". It means about half of MacRumors.com readers are affected.

arn


Please don't take this personally arn but the poll shows 17,495 people with "issues".

The stats page at the bottom of the forum page shows

Threads: 909,286, Posts: 10,122,699, Members: 453,892

Does MR know exactly how many "members" are "active" readers ?
 
Please don't take this personally arn but the poll shows 17,495 people with "issues".

The stats page at the bottom of the forum page shows

Threads: 909,286, Posts: 10,122,699, Members: 453,892

Does MR know exactly how many "members" are "active" readers ?

The forum population is not the same audience that reads the front page. So it's not useful to try to correlate them.

arn
 
Wow, internet polls run up by no-life fandroids like you are sure good evidence.
 
The forum population is not the same audience that reads the front page. So it's not useful to try to correlate them.

arn

What you have though is members who see this poll using it to suggest almost 50% of iPhone 4 users have a problem. I’m not sure what the real % is, but one way these results are skewed is by the simple fact that many posters come here to find out about their iPhone problems. So, the real % lies somewhere between almost 0% and 50%.
 
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