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I have high hopes for force touch and think it great technology. But the examples given so far doesn't really add anything new. It's not supposed to replace a long press IMO and saying it's faster isn't good enough. Long press works and should not be replaced with FT a link to get options. That's just redundant.

I do like the FT on a home screen icon to get maybe a quick compose when FT the messages icon. That's something new and it keeps the long press to move icons function. Really hope apple has some imagination with this.

Edit: I'm beginning to like the idea more and more with using FT for system action like bringing up NC, CC, multitasking and slide over. Might seem a little boring but apps could start using the sides of the screen again and not have it interfere with apples UI.
 
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it is the begining for the big one iPhone 7. They need force touch for them to remove the home button. but they need same sapphire cover so this mean sapphire instead of gorila glass and this force touch. This is the only way that can be operated like a home button without one. because force touch is not a 100% software based so if your app is frozen you can force touch and come back to home screen like you do with your home button now.
So this force touch is forward thinking for the iP7. Like they did with ios7 and iphone 6, swipe left/right and with iphone 6 curved screen to be more fluent experience

Good call. Your probably right. So, the iPhone 7 may be a 5.5 phone but smaller. Or make it same size, bigger screen bigger battery? As long as there is a teeny home button somewhere as backup
 
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They could layer menus. Touch settings icon in an app. FT to get advanced settings, that way, settings can be kept basic, but all the goodies are there under FT. Simple for all users, ease of access for power users, or infrequently used menu items
 
ForceTouch seems to be a great Technology.

But for me it's not worth to upgrade my iPhone 6.


I hope Apple will also bring ForceTouch to the Magic Trackpad soon (maybe with the new iMac?).
 
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It's worth it if it makes typing on a touch screen fun, but it doesn't look like that is their focus.
 
+1 for 'How is this different than a long press?' I think it's unnatural to 'ForceTouch' your phone. You're basically hitting your phone. It takes getting use to.
 
I don't understand if it's going to get the fake click like the MacBook... is it? At first it seemed quite stupid to me but I can't see how pressure sensitive touch would be useful without that feedback...
 
I remember when Apple products were innovative through their sheer simplicity of use compared to their competitors. But FT does seem like another layer of unnecessary complexity that will possibly even alienate potential new customers and disinterest the current ones. I could be wrong and time will tell, but I do wish we could again see the old stripped-back, instinctive design Apple of yesteryear instead of the current piled-on, just-think-of-something-to-stopgap-til-the-next-release rehashes of the original that we've been fed for the past three years :-(
 
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Samsung will knock off and copy and have "fake touch" in their next phone....count on it!
Man ssh. Force touch I do not believe was invented by Apple.

Have a look above, there are plenty of links for you to ignore about other manufacturers doing it years ago.

Or you can lap up what Apple say on their website?
With the new MacBook comes a whole new way to experience a trackpad. The Force Touch trackpad……….
amongst other things.

I’ll make it easy for you shall I?
http://gizmodo.com/5936158/synaptic...windows-8-trackpad-is-about-to-change-forever

So apple have put it in a phone, (apparently). It’s still not new.

In fact, I think the Playstation Controller had pressure sensitive buttons years ago.
 
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I'm more concerned on how many features will be copied from android, since that seems to be Apple's moto for 2 iOS versions now.
 
Do you think they will include the taptic engine? Would that make sense in the iPhone?

On Apple Watch it could be better, at the moment the vibration is a little weak ;)
 
I have high hopes for force touch and think it great technology. But the examples given so far doesn't really add anything new. It's not supposed to replace a long press IMO and saying it's faster isn't good enough. Long press works and should not be replaced with FT a link to get options. That's just redundant.

Even without specific use cases, FT> LT. FT gives the user immediate feedback; LT doesn't. FT provides the same kind of immediate response as swipe gestures, unlike LT. That means there is a learning curve for the user to figure out what LT does/doesn't do-- you either have to know in advance, or you need a lot of patience and a good memory to figure it out. And that means apps need to use LT judiciously, whereas they can use FT more aggressively.

There are also classes of apps where timing is critical to functionality, which would be suitable for FT but not LT. LT is only good for static functions due to the intrinsic delays. Obvious examples would be games, anything controlling video, or audio recording. Imagination will lead to others.

Finally, it would be possible to combine FT and LT into a single "long, hard" gesture (I can see you smirking, buddy;)) that would provide an additional control.
 
This just sounds overly complicated and unnecessary to me. They could simply expand the use of a long press to accomplish these same things. Seems like something that's just going to confuse non-techie people.
 
Of course not. Don't be absurd. But here's an article from 2013:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/hp-updates-commercial-pc-line-bets-on-forcepad/

Actually, it gets curiouser and curiouser. Here's one from 2012:

http://gizmodo.com/5936158/synaptic...windows-8-trackpad-is-about-to-change-forever

Do you think Synaptics began developing it at the beginning of 2012?

And according to this article: http://www.tapscape.com/apple-issued-trackpad-patent/, Apple filed for the Force Touch patent in 2009.
 
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Why couldn't someone that buys this year's iPhone also buy next year's?

Integrate it into the screen.
Someone could and they do that's what has made apple rich. Frankly, I live in the real world where Apple doesn't pay the rest of my bills. There is no need for me to buy a new phone every year that's not a wise choice in spending my hard earned money.
 
in other news the sun will rise and it will fall...the Washington Post has recorded nation wide more car accidents and deaths involving an iPhone than Android phones. Literally 10 times more
 
This just sounds overly complicated and unnecessary to me. They could simply expand the use of a long press to accomplish these same things. Seems like something that's just going to confuse non-techie people.
And yet it seems like the people most confused these days are techies. I keep hearing techies say how confused they are with Watch UI. I consider myself non-techie and it took me less than 5 minutes to figure it out.

This rumor doesn't suggest anything is getting replaced by FT. So it very well may be something you don't have to use if you don't want to. I'm sure a lot of people don't use 4 finger gesture on iPad. Doesn't mean it shouldn't be available for those that find it useful. And if FT allows for better drawing/pen capabilities iPad I think plenty of people will find that useful.
 
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