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And thanks to the protruding camera, Force Touch users can look forward to:

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I don't use my phone that way, EVER.

Because of the viewing angle I prefer to have it in my hand.

So, not an issue for probably 99% of users.

I am working on a 1 mm thick ileveler cradle type support sheet (CTSS) for these concerned people.

You can put it under the phone and it comes in Rose Gold, gold and slate black. White gets too dirty. etc.

It will sell for $ 49.95
 
One could always read the manual.
That doesn't sound too terrible... So maybe you won't immediately know what FT-ing this or that will do, but given two weeks with the 6s you wouldn't want to give it up. But maybe you were being sarcastic

Force Touch is pretty cool - I have it on my watch, and I have found myself force-pressing things on my phone to no avail.

The problem is if it's scattered around to do very different things in different places. Some buttons will be pressure-sensitive, but you won't know which ones just by looking. Launching an app could do different things depending on how much pressure you use to launch it. I don't like it - there doesn't seem to be a unifying theme or concept I can use even to guess if something may be pressure-sensitive or not.

We kind of have this problem on the Mac already with the alt button. If you hold it down, sometimes it'll change buttons and menus and expose some incredibly useful things. But you don't know what's there unless you try it and browse the menus, then you'll forget where things are because you can't see them, etc. Discoverability is a big problem for these kind of hidden menus and actions.

I guess that what Apple is doing is basically giving developers a raw hardware feature without much idea how to integrate it in to the OS. Then they're going to see what we do with it, then they're going to use that as "inspiration". That's kind of lazy from Apple's side.
 
I don't know what is the difference between long press and force touch!
in android toggle notification , long press will jump to setting shortcut..
(same principle to force touch, once you press hard to notification center toggle it will jump to specific settings)
 
haha I take it you always use your phone that's lying horizontal then ,most folk hold it in there r other hand

Hey, I use it the right way—the way Apple intended: after a manicure and in an evenly-lit, white room. :mad:
 
Someone could and they do that's what has made apple rich. Frankly, I live in the real world where Apple doesn't pay the rest of my bills. There is no need for me to buy a new phone every year that's not a wise choice in spending my hard earned money.

I'm pretty sure other people live in the real world too. You're free to spend your money on what you wish, and so is everyone else. Something that isn't a wise choice for you doesn't necessarily become a poor choice for others.
 
Well, that camera takes great pictures and I don't know about most people but Im not going to buy a $900 phone
and then use it without a case..the case makes the lens flush and also covers up the antennae bands that seems to bother some.

I, like many others, choose AC+ over a case. I am careful with my phone, but usually do not cash in the AC+ until I go to sell the phone if there is damage.
 
I don't think force touch as a main feature will attract normal users to upgrade... I'm looking forward to it though
Yeah I agree it's kind of a meh upgrade. It kind of reminds me of the feeling I got when Touch ID was touted and 64 bit for the 5S. It really didn't do much for me! I went from the 5 to the 6 and largely the experience remains the same for me after a few months comparing my 5 to the 6. Sure the bigger screen is nice and it's nice having a second or two faster load times. But really that's about it. I could actually name a thing that is worse and that's app reloading/safari reloading. My 5 could keep more in its memory because of the 32 bit. So if anything they need to put at least 2GB of ram to match the memory performance of the iPhone 5.
 
sorry but a long press is a software thing 100% and Force touch is not. So with force touch Apple will be able to remove the home button, and with long press NOT

Did you miss the soft keys Android phones have had for years?
 
Force touch doesnt seem different than a long press.
There can be benefits to a force touch other than a long press. Say a Gamer wants to shoot an opponent , rather than staying in position with a long press, maybe it would be better to have a stronger (force touch) press of the screen to spray more bullets toward an opponent then being able to get the heck out of the way quicker? Rather than staying there for a Loooooooong Press.just saying....
 
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Of course not. Don't be absurd. But here's an article from 2013:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/hp-updates-commercial-pc-line-bets-on-forcepad/

Actually, it gets curiouser and curiouser. Here's one from 2012:

http://gizmodo.com/5936158/synaptic...windows-8-trackpad-is-about-to-change-forever

Do you think Synaptics began developing it at the beginning of 2012?

Please don't let facts get in the way of thinking that Apple "invented" something other than a name for a product other companies just included without the marketing hype.
 
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I agree that force touch doesn't sound very exciting for me. Hopefully, this will be one of those things which sounds dull on paper but is actually fun to use in real life.
 
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What about the Taptic Engine? So far every time Apple has implemented Force Touch (Apple Watch and trackpads), it came with haptic feedback to let you know when you're force touching, otherwise it would be hard to tell. It would make a lot of sense for the iPhone 6S to also have the taptic engine, to maybe even replace the vibrating motor altogether.
 
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.[snip].. Something that isn't a wise choice for you doesn't necessarily become a poor choice for others.
It seemed the OP was talking about upgrading every year. Although I agree with your sentiment that one should worry about themselves and not others in this case, I will go out on a limb and say that upgrading every year is in fact a poor choice for just about anybody. Apple has done a great job of building almost a fever pitch around each release that seems to, IMHO, embroil many more people than simply those who genuinely need it to remain functional. But hey, I'm not passing judgement on anyone. It's their money to spend and if upgrading their phone, or video card, or CPU, or engine in their car on such a short term interval is their form of recreation, then knock yourselves out. I just don't buy that it is needed or that the benefits are as seriously felt as true believers make them out to be. YMMV.
 
Force Touch is pretty cool - I have it on my watch, and I have found myself force-pressing things on my phone to no avail.

The problem is if it's scattered around to do very different things in different places. Some buttons will be pressure-sensitive, but you won't know which ones just by looking. Launching an app could do different things depending on how much pressure you use to launch it. I don't like it - there doesn't seem to be a unifying theme or concept I can use even to guess if something may be pressure-sensitive or not.

We kind of have this problem on the Mac already with the alt button. If you hold it down, sometimes it'll change buttons and menus and expose some incredibly useful things. But you don't know what's there unless you try it and browse the menus, then you'll forget where things are because you can't see them, etc. Discoverability is a big problem for these kind of hidden menus and actions.

I guess that what Apple is doing is basically giving developers a raw hardware feature without much idea how to integrate it in to the OS. Then they're going to see what we do with it, then they're going to use that as "inspiration". That's kind of lazy from Apple's side.

You make a good point but you forget that Apple are the creators of the ultimate single-function button (well, three function) - the home button on iPhone.

One click - it takes you home
Two clicks - app switcher
Long press - Siri

Apple seems to know the brilliance in simplicity and simple, intuitive function, however, this was in the Steve Jobs era. I don't have an Apple Watch so maybe you've already seen that they've moved away from this simplicity.

Time will tell.
 
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