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Hours later, the souped up 16", 64, 4TB still available at several Los Angeles stores.... As well as the "amazing" $19 polishing cloth. But no extra 140 W charger

No chargers? I did notice that they are including that one with all of the MacBook Pros now. Maybe to answer the EU potential regulations I wonder...
 
No chargers? I did notice that they are including that one with all of the MacBook Pros now. Maybe to answer the EU potential regulations I wonder...
Yes, one is included. I need a second one for a remote office so I do not take the charger with me. But no rush as it will charge via USB C (though not in fast mode charge)
 
Well people do actually. That's why rubbish like the Cayman & Boxster exist for people who can't afford a proper Porsche 911. The Cayman & Boxster are deliberately hobbled out of the factory to ensure they do not encroach on 911 territory in any way.
718 GTS here, no regrets whatsoever! Not at all “hobbled”, just perfectly balanced. More power would not really make it much better. If you have a base 911 rather than a GT2/3 or turbo S, I’ll line up at the track with you any time!
 
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718 GTS here, no regrets whatsoever! Not at all “hobbled”, just perfectly balanced. More power would not really make it much better. If you have a base 911 rather than a GT2/3 or turbo S, I’ll line up at the track with you any time!
Hey, off-topic, but did you see the Corvette Z06 reveal this morning? 670HP Flat Plane Crank in a mid-engine - wow!
 
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Well people do actually. That's why rubbish like the Cayman & Boxster exist for people who can't afford a proper Porsche 911. The Cayman & Boxster are deliberately hobbled out of the factory to ensure they do not encroach on 911 territory in any way.
Lol rubbish. You’ve clearly never driven either or are just a **** driver
 
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16 GB unified memory and 512 GB SSD on the 16-inch machine are a bit of a waste, I wonder why they even offer that configuration. Especially given it's non-upgradable.

You don't go buy a Porsche and then be like, "you know what, I think the 75 hp engine is going to be enough for me".

The baffling thing is that all the review machines appear to have been specced with 32Gb RAM and more SSD. You'd think if this was such a great model to stock it would make sense to have reviews around.
 
So it doesnt pay to preorder. . .
Sure does seem that way, doesn't it?

Although if you pre-order soon enough to get delivery on launch day, then it does pay off. You have to be quick, though!

Otherwise, it becomes a trade-off between taking a chance at getting one at your local Apple Store, and not knowing in advance what their inventory situation will be, or accepting the delivery that you're able to get when you place your order online.

For those of us who are close enough to an Apple Store to have the option of a local purchase, it comes down to whether or not you want to take the time to try to snag one on launch day and then go pick it up.

I went through a similar process in purchasing a new iPhone 13 Pro Max. I wasn't sure enough to order one on launch day. Then I found myself in the situation where the backlog for orders was a month or more out. But I was able to grab one at my Apple Store after getting lucky enough to be checking their inventory two days ago and buying quickly enough to get one that I could go pick up. Actually did that for my wife and myself both.
 
Only models with 16GB available in my area. LA County. 10 million people. Includes the target market of film and TV professionals…
 
Hey, off-topic, but did you see the Corvette Z06 reveal this morning? 670HP Flat Plane Crank in a mid-engine - wow!
I am sure it's awesome, but as a Mopar guy who owns a Challenger and Trackhawk (along with the Cayman) I don't really follow the Corvette news. I don't care for the looks of the C8 inside or out (The C7 was beautiful!) I would like to motor one around a track at some point!
 
Only models with 16GB available in my area. LA County. 10 million people. Includes the target market of film and TV professionals…
Early in the morning, 12 LA stores had the souped up 16" 64GB 4TB model for pick up today. I picked up one at Century City around 11 AM - by then they were sold out of the model at this location but I overheard an Apple salesperson mentioning to a customer that "The Grove" still had some, and he should buy it online before heading that way to assure it was reserved.
 
I am sure it's awesome, but as a Mopar guy who owns a Challenger and Trackhawk (along with the Cayman) I don't really follow the Corvette news. I don't care for the looks of the C8 inside or out (The C7 was beautiful!) I would like to motor one around a track at some point!
I don’t know what it is but it’s not a Corvette.

It’s like calling a 928 a 911.
 
Early in the morning, 12 LA stores had the souped up 16" 64GB 4TB model for pick up today. I picked up one at Century City around 11 AM - by then they were sold out of the model at this location but I overheard an Apple salesperson mentioning to a customer that "The Grove" still had some, and he should buy it online before heading that way to assure it was reserved.
32GB unavailable in any config.

I am glad some can afford your config, but most people can more barely afford a pro/32/1 or 2 if their company isn’t buying it for them.

Main reason I didn’t get mini last year was because of 16GB.
 
32GB unavailable in any config.

I am glad some can afford your config, but most people can more barely afford a pro/32/1 or 2 if their company isn’t buying it for them.

Main reason I didn’t get mini last year was because of 16GB.
Was simply responding to your post that "Only models with 16GB available in my area. LA County. 10 million people. Includes the target market of film and TV professionals…" Suggesting where you may able to find one with more than the 16GB today, not suggesting that you or anyone else should get that specific model.
 
I am debating on flying up to Portland to pick up the 16” Max with 4Tb so I can avoid the $421 CA sales tax. My sister is a flight attendant and I can fly for free. I had placed an order for the 2Tb drive. So that would be a $119 increase in cost. But I would have it now (and I get to see a friend I haven't seen in a while in Portland). My 2013 MBP is on its last legs.

In typing this out, I basically talked myself into going.

Edit: Nevermind, they are unavailable.
 
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Availability wise, the only off-the-shelf model that doesn't appear to be widely available at U.K. retail stores is the top-spec 16-inch MacBook Pro with M1 Max chip, 32-Core GPU, and 32GB of memory, which costs a combined £3,299 ($3,499). This exception is likely to be replicated in other stores and countries.
In the USA the stores have two more configurations coming in the future with pickup availability.
  • A 14" M Max 32 core 64 GB RAM and 2 TB SSD ($4,099.00 USD)
  • A 16" M Max 32 core 64 GB RAM and 4 TB SDD ($4,899.00 USD)
 
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Lol rubbish. You’ve clearly never driven either or are just a **** driver
Agreed. We are undeniably in the golden age of sports cars. Cars that can be purchased new without too much pain by "middle-class", or used, likewise, by the "working-class", have the comfort of luxury vehicles of 20 years ago, and the performance of race cars from 10 years ago. Camaro, Mustang, Corvette, Porsche, entry-level Ferraris, Nissan GT-Rs, you name it.

To even come close to reaching the safely-reachable (*) performance differentiation points on these cars, you MUST get off the public roads and take it to a track. And how many people do that? Maybe - what - 0.5% of all sports car buyers?

(*: Example: Telsa Model S Plaid can go 0-60 in about 2 to 2.2 seconds flat, quarter-mile in low 9 second range. Awesome? Yes! Do I want that happening on a public street around civilians? NO!!!)
 
In the USA the stores have two more configurations coming in the future with pickup availability.
  • A 14" M Max 32 core 64 GB RAM and 2 TB SSD ($3,739.00 USD)
  • A 16" M Max 32 core 64 GB RAM and 4 TB SDD ($4,459.00 USD)
Your price on the latter - 16" / M1 Max / 64GB / 4 TB - is off. It runs $4,899 USD.
Do you get some kind of discount?
 
Agreed. We are undeniably in the golden age of sports cars. Cars that can be purchased new without too much pain by "middle-class", or used, likewise, by the "working-class", have the comfort of luxury vehicles of 20 years ago, and the performance of race cars from 10 years ago. Camaro, Mustang, Corvette, Porsche, entry-level Ferraris, Nissan GT-Rs, you name it.

To even come close to reaching the safely-reachable (*) performance differentiation points on these cars, you MUST get off the public roads and take it to a track. And how many people do that? Maybe - what - 0.5% of all sports car buyers?

(*: Example: Telsa Model S Plaid can go 0-60 in about 2 to 2.2 seconds flat, quarter-mile in low 9 second range. Awesome? Yes! Do I want that happening on a public street around civilians? NO!!!)
The Plaid routinely gets tossed at tracks due to no cage. I think its crazy to sell a car that is illegal even on a track without lifting. I track every car I own except my truck. i am all for cracking down hard on street racers.

All kind of like all us amateurs buying a Max with 64gb!
 
I am debating on flying up to Portland to pick up the 16” Max with 4Tb so I can avoid the $421 CA sales tax. My sister is a flight attendant and I can fly for free. I had placed an order for the 2Tb drive. So that would be a $119 increase in cost. But I would have it now (and I get to see a friend I haven't seen in a while in Portland). My 2013 MBP is on its last legs.

In typing this out, I basically talked myself into going.

Edit: Nevermind, they are unavailable.
Ah, I actually laughed when I read your post, but I sympathize!

You can keep checking and should have a very good chance of getting one sometime within the next few days, if it's important enough to you. And you don't need to pick it up immediately, from a discussion on another thread it was stated that they will hold it for you for at least a week. It might have been two weeks. So you could still do this, I think.
 
Agreed. We are undeniably in the golden age of sports cars. Cars that can be purchased new without too much pain by "middle-class", or used, likewise, by the "working-class", have the comfort of luxury vehicles of 20 years ago, and the performance of race cars from 10 years ago. Camaro, Mustang, Corvette, Porsche, entry-level Ferraris, Nissan GT-Rs, you name it.

To even come close to reaching the safely-reachable (*) performance differentiation points on these cars, you MUST get off the public roads and take it to a track. And how many people do that? Maybe - what - 0.5% of all sports car buyers?

(*: Example: Telsa Model S Plaid can go 0-60 in about 2 to 2.2 seconds flat, quarter-mile in low 9 second range. Awesome? Yes! Do I want that happening on a public street around civilians? NO!!!)
Agreed. My E90 335i already has a bit too much power for the street, and it’s only 300 HP and from 2009.

What’s always impressed me about Porsche is how they put the whole package together. Unlike other exotics, they’re reliable enough to drive day-to-day (1st gen Cayenne nonwithstanding).
 
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