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If your neighbor decided your lawnmower would look better in his garage, would you want the “Govt” to put them in jail for stealing your property? He might say you have enough money to get a new one.
If my neighbour took my lawnmower, I’d no longer have a lawnmower. Whatever secrets this guy took we can be pretty sure Apple still has. The two things are not in any sense equivalent.
 
If my neighbour took my lawnmower, I’d no longer have a lawnmower. Whatever secrets this guy took we can be pretty sure Apple still has. The two things are not in any sense equivalent.

If the guy has them, then they are by definition no longer secrets.

It would be like your neighbour breaking into your home and damaging your lawnmower. You'd have a 'lawnmower' but it would be worth a lot less.
 
Hmm, so Apple's self-driving efforts are following in the footsteps of Google's Waymo where most of the revenues come from suing former engineers. If there's one thing that current self-driving tech is good at, it's looking valuable.
That's BS Waymo is way ahead in the autonomous driving space, atm their only real competitor is Tesla & they're a notch below IMO. What Uber did, with the former Waymo employee, was arguably much worse than this guy & they rightfully paid for it.
 
told the others there won't be a car...busted! change of mind after reading the book Bulls*** Jobs.
 
If your neighbor decided your lawnmower would look better in his garage, would you want the “Govt” to put them in jail for stealing your property? He might say you have enough money to get a new one.
I would want the punishment to fit the crime. I would want him sentenced to cutting my lawn for life.
 
Where is the MacRumours exclusive interview? Readers want to know what he can tell us about the upcoming Apple iCar.
 
I read two news on this article
1. Apple is indeed developing an autonomous car
2. It’s been 8 years and still no sign of any product. As a comparison Tesla took 5 years to develop from scratch and launch its first car. 20 years later it has a complete lign of products, giga factory in various part of the world and model 3 / Y are best sellers in many countries. They didn’t have the means of Apple
Apple was also VERY late to the cell phone party as well (which started in 1983 with the first commercially available cell phone from Motorola) - how’d that turn out? What is the rush? Dodge has only recently announced its first EVs (which will require a driver) The car is a “side-gig” for the world’s most valued company (worth nearly 3 times the value of Tesla). Tesla has side-gigs that don’t accomplish much (yet) either; SolarCity - has had a lot of issues, and has been sued by investors AND the Boring Company, which has been more of a “money-hole” than anything and deemed a failure at CES this year, when it did anything BUT reduce congestion and required modified Teslas to work. Autonomous driving is literally in it’s infancy, with not a single vehicle having true Autonomous driving (Level 4) certified for global, national, or state-wide operation. Only a few vehicles have Level 4 in tightly fenced areas and roles. Audi has the only Level 3 vehicle (hands free but a driver present to override) for use in Germany, it will be Level 2 in the US, due to varying state and federal requirements. Tesla’s “Full-Autonomous” is anything but, and is only certified to Level 2, as is GM’s “Super Cruise” or Ford’s “Blue Cruise”. It is naive to think Apple is behind in a Marathon, where the other runners are just making it to the one-mile marker. The level of technology, computation and automation, to operate at Level 4 (and ultimately Level 5 with no steering wheel, controls, required) is really the same distance away for any major tech company. This race has only begun - place your bets wisely.
 
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even if he gets the maximum of 10 years,
the Apple Car will still not be out by the time
he leaves prison in 2032.

(but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong
about that) :)
 
Well, just for fun: let’s say he got $10M from this XMotors company (that’s pocket change for such an endeavor), he pays $250K+fees, spends 10 years (maybe less with “good behaviour”), not using his own money all that time (since jail will maintain him)… he got $9M dollars left, and if put on some compounded interests endeavor potentially a whole lot more!

I don’t know you, but I know I won’t be having $10M+ in hand in the next 10 years (source: my previous 10 years say so).

Suddenly it’s looking like a deal for those willing to sacrifice years of their life that way 🤣
That’s what I was thinking initially too. 10 years? $250K? That’s really not that steep of a penalty. The damage is irreversible if he really did steal trade secrets and leak them to that company.
 
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Yea - I worked for a Chinese-based startup for a few years. Obviously, I can't generalize to all Chinese companies, but these guys did not have any problem at all being unscrupulous...
 
If he stole trade secrets and hardware then went to Xmotors, and later found guilty of the act. I wonder if the FBI also placed xMotors under investigation for collusion with the guy to begin with.
 
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I wonder if he thinks the money/or whatever he received was worth it now?

I was thinking the same, I don't know whether it is greed or stupidity, but how can they believe they can get away with stealing company secrets at this time and age.

I am an Engineer, and I am always careful on what files I should transfer from a project to my personal drives, it is partly ethics but also common sense and respect for what you do.
 
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Not to be racist... but reminds me of Silicon Valley :)

The fact that you added "Not to be racist" shows that you knew this message could be interpreted as being racist. :)

"I'm not racist, BUT...." is a very typical way of being racist. :)

I can see from your profile picture that you're a visible minority as well. Is it really funny to stigmatise other minorities? Have you not suffered from racism and stigmatization in your life time? Or do you think it's ok as long as the joke is not at your expense? :)

Laughing at Jian Yang while watching Silicon Valley is not the same thing as what you have done here. You went a step further and connected the dots just because the IP thief mentioned in the article is alleged to be Chinese. So it's ok to easily generalize and imply that all Chinese people are copycats? :)
 
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The ultimate craziness is that Chinese or Russians that always steal trade secrets left and right don't need to receive an "export license" to work in big tech but people from countries such as Sudan needs one! US needs to grow balls and require export license for Chinese employees.
 
Guy: Hey Siri, take me to the airport
Siri: Working on it

“One sec…”

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Are they actually doing that? Sure China's still growing rapidly economically & in many other areas, are they getting better though?
Nah this is just trying to find excuses for their dishonest conduct, I'm from a neighboring country with similar set of values & no way can I condone this!

DW, RFA, VOA are not good source of unbiased reporting, they are funded by CIA and German equivalent.
 
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No one else finds it jarring that the US Govt can *put someone in jail* for breaking an employment contract with a tech company?!
Theft is theft - if you commit a crime - yes the government will put you in jail. So with your logic I guess I can rob and bank and what the "Bank of America" is suppose to file a lawsuit against me? Theft of company trade secrets (property) is exactly the same as going into the a bank and robbing it.
 
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