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Iphone 7 design look perfect imo except for that the camera go out of chassi.
I only want improvements in performance of everything and display, 120hz oled screen next please. And in software. Would not care if they used same chassi again
 
Steve Jobs was true legend,a visionary, nothing can replace him.

The last iPhone design which Steve Jobs was involved in was iPhone 5. Even today it's Gold Standard in Smartphone design. It was the best looking iPhone Apple ever made till date in my Opinion

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iPhone 5 = Best design Among the lineup

Yup, got the SE. Form factor is best for me. I hope Tim Cook has the wisdom to keep this one in the lineup going forward.
 
Flexible/folding displays that move phones back towards compact designs from the flip phone era are likely the next major innovation. Love having a large screen myself, but they are less ideal as phones that you can put in your pocket or easily hold while making a call.
 
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The article is about design innovations, as in hardware.

Read the article title/content properly before jumping to defence?
Maybe you are not aware that he always comes to the rescue at the slightest criticism towards Apple. And while it's probably true that this "ridiculously undervalued" company has "caught the whole industry pants down, once again, with ARKit," he conveniently omits to mention that Siri, after being introduced well before the competition, has been neglected to the point that it has become the laughing stock of the AI community.
 
Yawn. Never heard of the guy. Must not have been that important at Apple.

Hugh Dubberly's quote may have been taken out of its fuller context. The piece is about contrasting design of the smartphones, whereas the paragraph quoting Dubberly was possibly, in his context, more about company focus, which at this point would sensibly lmove on from smartphones anyway. His comment that what was the pipeline during Jobs' time is not the pipeline now is on the money not only for Apple but for any forward-looking company over time. Apple has always been about ecosystem and design. It doesn't always have to be about smartphones.
 
The article is about design innovations, as in hardware.

Read the article title/content properly before jumping to defence?

True, so let's talk design.

Apple iPhone's 3 years old design is still so good that's basically stolen by everyone, including Google for its Pixel and all Chinese OEMs.

The Galaxy S8 is a 2017 phone and must be compared design-wise to Apple's 2017 phone (that will reportedly feature a much better screen-to-size ratio than Samsung's offering), not the 2016 model.

But Samsung's 2017 phone has an horrible rear-mounted fingerprint sensor and an hardware button that does not do anything, things that, when done by Apple, would be marked as epic fails design-wise.
 
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Samsung has better design because design is about how something sexy looks. The full display is amazing. Leaps ahead of the lame iPhone with its awful regular LED and gimmicky 3D Touch. Oooh, the iPhone has z-axis interactions. Um. My Samsung has no Home button! Beat that!
 
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...formerly of both Apple and Samsung...

A former employee that now works at Samsung. Take everything they say with a dump-truck of salt.
A former employee of both companies. He has a unique perspective since he's actually been in both environments. That perspective doesn't mean his opinion is right. It's just an opinion from one person. Even if his opinion was 180 degrees different (Apple leading in design innovations), it still should be taken with that same dump truck of salt.
 
Steve Jobs was true legend,a visionary, nothing can replace him.

The last iPhone design which Steve Jobs was involved in was iPhone 5. Even today it's Gold Standard in Smartphone design. It was the best looking iPhone Apple ever made till date in my Opinion

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Agreed, which is part of the reason I love the SE. I highly doubt SJ would have let the 'camera bump' slide.
 
My iPhone 7+ has a fingerprint reader that actually works reliably. (Yes, I also own a S8+, and that FPS is the worst part about that phone, other than the facial recognition that works 40% of the time).
You may need to take your S8+ back. Might be defective. My wife's S8 is pretty darn spot on with the fps and the facial rec is close to 100%. Anecdotes as evidence amirite?
 
Lots of true fans here. An executive offers some insight about what he observed at Apple and gets bashed. Many here have suspected and commented about lack of innovation and this guy confirmed the well is tapped.

So then the talk then turns to software and customer support. I agree the Apple eco system works well, but if Apple is unable to innovate, it will lose customers.

Steve Jobs asked for the impossible and pushed his employees until he got it. We've all heard the stories. I'm sure Tim Cook will continue to make Apple profitable, and many will be satisfied.

I hope Apple continues to push forward with new products not just incremental updates.
 
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Samsung push the boundaries of hardware every year. They give their all, every year.

However, Samsung don't give the same importance to their software, ecosystem, customer service and countless other factors.

Apple have slowed down their push for amazing hardware - but they still deliver a much more well-rounded product, with complimentary services and a solid ecosystem. It's not always so exciting but they (usually) deliver consistent satisfaction for their users.

(PS - I have a Samsung S8).
As an owner of a Samsung S8+ I agree. Very well said!
 
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I don't buy into all the beatification of Steve. At some point we've "innovated" the design of an item that connects to speech and ear with a touch screen for interaction about as much as we can. We're ready for the next evolution of mobile devices (wearables and then implantables) to go big but until then "design" innovation will remain fairly plateaued with minor changes and face lifts.

It's not ideal to beatify him, but to give him credit just look at Apple before he came back and after he died to get an idea of how his presence impacted Apple products and design.
 
You may need to take your S8+ back. Might be defective. My wife's S8 is pretty darn spot on with the fps and the facial rec is close to 100%. Anecdotes as evidence amirite?
Maybe, but this is a very common complaint in the field of phones I manage (more than a few hundred). Lots of great things about the S8, but the FPS does not seem to be one of them.
 
Yup, got the SE. Form factor is best for me. I hope Tim Cook has the wisdom to keep this one in the lineup going forward.

Seriously.

Just yesterday someone was marveling at my SE and how ideal it was to hold. He had a 6. I asked him why he didn't get the smaller phone and he said he wanted the newest iphone, otherwise he would have. Apple, see what you're doing.
 
How a smartphone looks now accounts for about half a consumer's purchase decision, with the assessment formed in roughly one second, according to Charles L. Mauro, president of MauroNewMedia, a product-design research firm that has done consulting work for Apple and Samsung. Mr. Mauro says peer-reviewed research reveals aesthetics matter much more than previously believed, as older surveys pegged looks as influencing only 7% of a phone purchase.

So basically people are a bunch of racists that judge books by their covers and not solely by what’s on the inside. I thought all phones were created equal! /s
 
True, so let's talk design.

Apple iPhone's 3 years old design is still so good that's basically stolen by everyone, including Google for its Pixel and all Chinese OEMs.

The Galaxy S8 is a 2017 phone and must be compared design-wise to Apple's 2017 phone (that will reportedly feature a much better screen-to-size ratio than Samsung's offering), not the 2016 model.

But Samsung's 2017 phone has an horrible rear-mounted fingerprint sensor and an hardware button that does not do anything, things that, when done by Apple, would be marked as epic fails design-wise.
I don't want to talk about anything, I was simply stating that the article was referencing Apple's hardware and you countered with stuff about their software.
 
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