Cluttered. Yes. But I remember years ago when people said we didn't need folders for apps. Now not using folders on an iOS devices looks "cluttered" to the same people.
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Former Apple TV Engineer Claims New Apple TV Interface Discarded 5 Years Ago [Updatedx2]
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Cluttered. Yes. But I remember years ago when people said we didn't need folders for apps. Now not using folders on an iOS devices looks "cluttered" to the same people.
Steve Jobs also said no to the nano, video on iPod, and an AppStore for the iPhone.
He said no to A LOT of things that eventually materialized. Guess he was just human after all.
I gotta say though, I like the updated UI.
He said no to A LOT of things that eventually materialized. Guess he was just human after all.
I gotta say though, I like the updated UI.
And given the launch timeframe and when this thing began popping up even in beta builds, I'd venture to guess that Steve Jobs was aware of the UI change. Who's to know really besides the people at Apple, but I just wouldn't be shocked if he was in the mix on this still on some level, and I also see why he would reject it five years ago but not today.
Five years ago, there was no app store either, and he rejected the idea of one at first too.
Five years ago, there was no app store either, and he rejected the idea of one at first too.
I know I'll get downvoted, but frankly I dont care. The AppleTV in its current incarnation is a limited, boring device.
I post the screenshot below, knowing that because of its manufacturer I will be downvoted. But its years ahead of the Apple TV. Feature wise, AppleTV cant even compete with it.
I present, Samsung Smart TV.
I post the screenshot below, knowing that because of its manufacturer I will be downvoted. But its years ahead of the Apple TV. Feature wise, AppleTV cant even compete with it.
I present, Samsung Smart TV.
I hate the new design of Apple TV. 
. Tim cook can be a staff but is not qualified for a CEO of Apple.
. Tim cook can be a staff but is not qualified for a CEO of Apple.
I'm not a big Samsung TV fan but I have one of these in a family room (better for games that get left on than my preferred plasma) and my parents recently bought one of these for their new house.
That said, I prefer Apple TV any day of the week. For my purposes, Apple TV does everything I want exceedingly well. And while I don't think the new UI is perfect, if you want to talk about cluttered, look at that Samsung Smart TV.
Expect A LOT More Paradigm Shifts
from Apple. When Steve was there he and Jonny could agree on something, and the decision would be enforced by Steve's force of will and dominating personality.
With Steve gone, I expect Jonny will get overruled more than in the past because he is not a dominating force like Steve was and like most artists, somewhat sensitive.
With his champion gone, it could get to the point where he leaves one day from getting overruled so much. THAT will be the beginning of the end for Apple.
Wonder which camp Tim has sided with more over the last 10 years?
All that being said, there are some things that Steve/Jonny got "wrong". Eliminating video and click wheel from iPod Nano, the war on I/O ports, and hard to replace batteries (would result in .... gasp... screwholes!!!!)
from Apple. When Steve was there he and Jonny could agree on something, and the decision would be enforced by Steve's force of will and dominating personality.
With Steve gone, I expect Jonny will get overruled more than in the past because he is not a dominating force like Steve was and like most artists, somewhat sensitive.
With his champion gone, it could get to the point where he leaves one day from getting overruled so much. THAT will be the beginning of the end for Apple.
Wonder which camp Tim has sided with more over the last 10 years?
All that being said, there are some things that Steve/Jonny got "wrong". Eliminating video and click wheel from iPod Nano, the war on I/O ports, and hard to replace batteries (would result in .... gasp... screwholes!!!!)
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Wow, that screenshot makes the Apple TV (past or present) interface look like a great thing, which it isn't. Save us Siri.
Wow, that screenshot makes the Apple TV (past or present) interface look like a great thing, which it isn't. Save us Siri.
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This is my first ATV so I don't know what the old UI - which seems to have a lot of fans - looked like. Anyone got a link to some screenshots?
The only two gripes I have with the UI are the blue border on the selected icon doesn't stand out too well, especially on the Movies icon which is blue!! Also the fact that the menus don't wrap - i.e. when you get to the bottom is doesn't wrap back to the top. Maybe not everyone would want that so it could be a pref.
This is my first ATV so I don't know what the old UI - which seems to have a lot of fans - looked like. Anyone got a link to some screenshots?
The only two gripes I have with the UI are the blue border on the selected icon doesn't stand out too well, especially on the Movies icon which is blue!! Also the fact that the menus don't wrap - i.e. when you get to the bottom is doesn't wrap back to the top. Maybe not everyone would want that so it could be a pref.
Got to agree with the crappy iCal design. Looks like something Microsoft would come up with. Not a big fan of the new AppleTV UI either. The icons are TOO big and TOO colourful and TOO in my face. Seems like Apple does not have one design focus across all products, rather a "loose" design ideal and each product team does there own thing. Certainly the AppleTV UI people are not talking to the IOS UI people.
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The new AppleTV UI is a mess. Blue, purple, orange and green blocks of colour immediately underneath the content. Just.. why?
Apple have always been brilliant at presenting a minimalist UI that lets the content be the focus of your attention. This new UI is just a visual explosion. Bring back lists of white text on a black background and let the movie posters stand out.
The new AppleTV UI is a mess. Blue, purple, orange and green blocks of colour immediately underneath the content. Just.. why?
Apple have always been brilliant at presenting a minimalist UI that lets the content be the focus of your attention. This new UI is just a visual explosion. Bring back lists of white text on a black background and let the movie posters stand out.
I believe I read in the biography that Steve left Jony with more creative power than anyone at Apple. He is not part of any hierarchy. Him and his team are completely autonomous and cannot be overruled.
what's up with everyone quoting that if SJ is around, [insert new Apple product UI/hardware decision after SJ's death] will never happen? Give me a break...
SJ left the company in good hands, to say bad about the current Apple management is as good as saying SJ didn't have the foresight to choose the right people to guide the Apple ship into the future.
seriously. "Oh noes! Apple did something I didn't like! Apple is DOOMED!!!"
whatever...
Just because Jobs didn't approve it, doesn't mean Jobs was right. I think most people are siding with Jobs out of some kind of irrational loyalty/respect. If you think negatively now about Apple's Q&A why are you sticking around?
You only have to go back to the original Mac and read the stories (applefolklore.org) behind the decisions that were made (like the SONY floppy drive) to see the man was only a man. One man at that.
Jobs did also say before he died that those left in charge weren't to second guess him, seems like they are doing just that.
Fear not Apple brethren.
You only have to go back to the original Mac and read the stories (applefolklore.org) behind the decisions that were made (like the SONY floppy drive) to see the man was only a man. One man at that.
Jobs did also say before he died that those left in charge weren't to second guess him, seems like they are doing just that.
Fear not Apple brethren.
Apple has never made a bad interface. This one is just fine. Sometimes it is just hard to be open to change even when change improves things.
Just wait for the next generation Samsung Smart TV's interface... I bet it will look exactly like Apple because that is the only thing that company does. Copy Apple.
Just wait for the next generation Samsung Smart TV's interface... I bet it will look exactly like Apple because that is the only thing that company does. Copy Apple.
Well they can, just not by anybody except the CEO, Tim.
The hardware guys work with them, not the other way around like in other companies.
Anyone got a link to a bunch of images which show the different UI's of Apple TV's from the beginning?
Jobs was right to reject this new interface as it is actually worse than the old design IMO. It looks like it is a work-in-progress.
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Personally, I don't blame the Apple TV or the interface. It's that damned remote! It is simple, but archaic in relationship to the amount and range of content now available. We love the iOS UI, but only because touch allows us to. Until Apple can figure out how to use a remote to elegantly interface from a distance, we'll always be complaining about the UI.
Personally, I don't blame the Apple TV or the interface. It's that damned remote! It is simple, but archaic in relationship to the amount and range of content now available. We love the iOS UI, but only because touch allows us to. Until Apple can figure out how to use a remote to elegantly interface from a distance, we'll always be complaining about the UI.
